Mini 1475: War in the Middle East Mafia (Game Over)

[Majiffy]

Majiffy, who do you think is scum right now?

When consulting everyone to find scum,

you are not

required

to consult the host.

Just recommended?

Your Troubles Will Cease (4): waynegg, killerjester, BROseidon, Marquis
Baezu (4): rhyx, Salt n Pepper, Titus
waynegg (1): T S O
Titus (2): Baezu, Your Troubles Will Cease
Not Voting: Ten_Heavens

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday, August 5th at 9 PM Eastern Time.

[Majiffy]

Oh goodie I get to do a VC

[T S O]

Majiffy, who do you think is scum right now?

When consulting everyone to find scum, you are not required to consult the host.

I have a feeling he knows who they are

Now all we need to do is get him drunk

[waynegg]

Of course we could just, you know, go ahead lynch YTWC and find his scum buddies tomorrow?

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

Let's not do that.

First of all, I was checking to see if I was stumped. I'm not, so:
UNVOTE:

I finished my readthrough, made some notes, came up with fuck all. So I did another readthrough with the assistance of alcohol, made some notes, and I'm writing up what I found now. It boils down to me thinking that TSO is scum. Stay with me here.

My main reason is that he has been half-heartedly defending me every now and then, popping in with a

YTWC is a potential Town, but not quite sure.

here, and a

YTWC isn't scum atm

there. Towncred for when I flip, gets to look as though he isn't scum trying to off a townie quickly.

He dumped his vote on Waynegg early on, then hasn't moved it despite saying that it is useless, though that's a playstyle thing more than anything. Then there's the confusing mess of him having Waynegg as his main scum suspect, yet being eager to hear his theories and being (mock?) over the top when it's a reaction test. Regardless, if he's deciding which case looks more appealing, why isn't he doing anything personally to help him decide? Asking the mod who is scum hasn't got the best success rate iirc.

Final point: he keeps bringing up WIFOM.

I can't help but feel a slight sense of mindfuck

Alternatively, you're fucking with us by banking on the fact we don't think scum would do that.

But it's all WIFOM, unfortunately.

Guys, why would he bomb an obvTownie so he could potentially catch scum with a gambit?

Unless you have a reason to, bringing up WIFOM theories just fogs everything up. The more I read your iso, the more I realise that I don't know what you're thinking at all.

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

oh yeah
VOTE: TSO

[Majiffy]

I have a feeling he knows who they are

Now all we need to do is get him drunk

I can get drunk just fine by myself, thank you.

And no, I don't. I have a file with all the roles on my desktop that I refer to in the case of a night kill or lynch.

[waynegg]

And what's you IP? Lol

[Majiffy]

[Salt n Pepper]

Majiffy, who do you think is scum right now?

This is helpful to town how?

pitoli, I think TSO is scummy, what do you think?

-DP

[Marquis]

i feel like that's blatantly using the hydra status to create a bandwagon mentality ok

[waynegg]

i feel like that's blatantly using the hydra status to create a bandwagon mentality ok

Here, here!

[Salt n Pepper]

Majiffy, who do you think is scum right now?

This is helpful to town how?

pitoli, I think TSO is scummy, what do you think?

-DP

Did you find a thread to follow or was it after Troubles' case that you think he's scummy?

- pi

[waynegg]

Asking the obvious. Why aren't you guys working out your reads in your QT or Skype or AIM?


Also, I still think there's a chance were all being trolled by the Mod and we could all be town, especially because Amrun flipped Jordan. Who else has a country that is so anti Jordan it hurts and is yet still aligned town?

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

Who else has a country that is so anti Jordan it hurts and is yet still aligned town?

Would a mass nameclaim be a terrible idea?

[waynegg]

I don't think it would help any. I'm Iran, for example, who is very much not aligned with Jordan irl, and am yet somehow of the same alignment. There's an easy way to see if I'm right though. Only person who would need to claim anything would be the person who killed Purpkin.

[killerjester]

It could help. I think the wording in my role PM gives some insight into the pattern between town/scum rolenames. I mean like scum

might

be aware of their own pattern but we could still trip them up if they don't have safeclaim names and get CC'd. Dunno, I've never really played a Jiffy-modded game before.

[T S O]

I'd prefer we don't nameclaim atm.

[T S O]

Let's not do that.

First of all, I was checking to see if I was stumped. I'm not, so:
UNVOTE:

I finished my readthrough, made some notes, came up with fuck all. So I did another readthrough with the assistance of alcohol, made some notes, and I'm writing up what I found now. It boils down to me thinking that TSO is scum. Stay with me here.

My main reason is that he has been half-heartedly defending me every now and then, popping in with a

YTWC is a potential Town, but not quite sure.

here, and a

YTWC isn't scum atm

there. Towncred for when I flip, gets to look as though he isn't scum trying to off a townie quickly.

He dumped his vote on Waynegg early on, then hasn't moved it despite saying that it is useless, though that's a playstyle thing more than anything. Then there's the confusing mess of him having Waynegg as his main scum suspect, yet being eager to hear his theories and being (mock?) over the top when it's a reaction test. Regardless, if he's deciding which case looks more appealing, why isn't he doing anything personally to help him decide? Asking the mod who is scum hasn't got the best success rate iirc.

Final point: he keeps bringing up WIFOM.

I can't help but feel a slight sense of mindfuck

Alternatively, you're fucking with us by banking on the fact we don't think scum would do that.

But it's all WIFOM, unfortunately.

Guys, why would he bomb an obvTownie so he could potentially catch scum with a gambit?

Unless you have a reason to, bringing up WIFOM theories just fogs everything up. The more I read your iso, the more I realise that I don't know what you're thinking at all.

Firstly, you're not being lynched, so I don't know where that's coming from in terms of me getting towncred when you flip.
There are reasons for the second part which I'm not divulging.
Finally, quote 1 isn't WIFOM, quote 2 is me talking out loud and ...admitting it's WIFOM, and quote 3 is a conclusion, not WIFOM.

Aaand that's your case.

[killerjester]

You're gonna have to elaborate on that desire to not nameclaim.

[Salt n Pepper]

Pi, its helped by the case but its mostly the vote and the general softness of stance.

We shouldnt nameclaim because any decent mod gives scum fake claims, so alignment wont really be discovered. Also its too early

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

Firstly, you're not being lynched, so I don't know where that's coming from in terms of me getting towncred when you flip.
There are reasons for the second part which I'm not divulging.
Finally, quote 1 isn't WIFOM, quote 2 is me talking out loud and ...admitting it's WIFOM, and quote 3 is a conclusion, not WIFOM.

Aaand that's your case.

First point: there was momentum on my wagon at the time, so it could plausibly have been your thought process.
Second point: Okay then, since you're not refuting it in any way and you are keeping your motives hidden, I'm going to put that down as a subjective scum mark against your name.
Third point: WIFOM is WIFOM, and none of the points you raised were brought up by anyone else, and by introducing them you spread WIFOM.

Vote remains, though your attempt to shrug it off at the end was quite good.

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

On the subject of nameclaims, I think I see a possible pattern. We have Jordan and Iran as town (assuming Wayne is town which I think is a given/general consensus at this point) and my PM has interesting wording on the topic of religion. So there's that to mull over.

[Titus]

You're gonna have to elaborate on that desire to not nameclaim.

Name claiming would possibly out the PRs. If there's a theme to scum, then there's likely a theme to PRs as well. We could revisit later but I am against a claim until we have a scum.

[BROseidon]

Majiffy, who do you think is scum right now?

This is helpful to town how?

pitoli, I think TSO is scummy, what do you think?

-DP

Why is this post not in your QT/skype convo/whatever form of communication you use to do behind-the-scenes talking?