Lord of The Rings Mafia - Game End

[Amrun]

So does deflecting, by the way.

[ToastyToast]

@gollum: not reading something DOES NOT equal scum. Reading something and not remembering everything DOES NOT equal scum. Like, seriously. Do you know how often I miss shit when I read? It happens to absolutely everyone. And who the fuck cares if he knew you were a Nero Cain alt or not? Why does that have relevance here? Whether or not he knew doesn't really matter all that much, there is no reason to lie about it.

And you know that Monkey is telling the truth how?

The relevance is that if he didn't forget then he's lying. Why would he lie? To discredit me.

Your "Monkey said so so he has to be telling the truth" is retarded logic and pretty scummy to boot.

Though this has nothing to do with how horrible post 734 is and how he is not adequate explaining it but nice try trying to discredit our attack.

um, no.
I have not once said anything along the lines of "monkey said so so he has to be telling the truth." Bottom line is it really doesn't matter whether or not he knew you were a Nero Cain alt or not. It changes literally nothing. There is no scum motivation to do so, and whether or not someone read the /in thread is irrelevant to the game itself.

Pedit: That deflection is AWFUL.

[MonkeyMan576]

If you think you're so convincing then why aren't I lynched yet, Gollum? Because you are throwing shit and trying to see what sticks.

[Gollum]

oh no, I'm just responding to other posts and I can't post like 20 times at the same time. Your speculation that I'm cautious scum is quite honestly fucktarded. At the same time your rushing me is a tactic we often see from scum so if you think we are scum are you prepared to 1v1 us?

[Gollum]

If you think you're so convincing then why aren't I lynched yet, Gollum? Because you are throwing shit and trying to see what sticks.

??????

What does this have to do with anything?

[waynegg]

I have outstanding questions to those players as well

Well, I wouldn't call them outstanding, but they are questions

[Spaceman Spiff]

The way Spiff joined Rob's wagon just felt wrong, he simply restated my reasons and voted. Also, Robert was the least controversial player, he had been doing nothing and needed to be pressured into doing stuff. I interpreted Spiff's vote as scum trying to aim for the easiest target.

My reasons, verbatim, for voting Robert were (pay attention

@maverick

, this should answer your question as well) the ISO, as you mentioned, AND pressure to explain more about his Subliminal vote than his original, lame cop out. While you mentioned that he did not give his reasons, you didn't address the fact that he should be pressured into giving them - likely because you didn't believe he had any, IIRC. This aspect is different from a player doing nothing and getting pressured into

stuff

, this is definitive pressure designed confront a specific part of Robert's play.[/quote]

Also what others have said, also his sureness that the ring would be bad in the hands of scum felt like a scum slip.

Can you restate, in your own words, things you agree with that other players have already said? And can you elaborate my "sureness." I only recall entertaining the entirely possible idea that

giving the ring to scum could be bad

.

Pedit: And now he's trying to shift things back to Rob.

It's called a followup. His lack of reasons interested me very much back when I voted Robert. And part of my active reread was noticing that I never got a full answer. I've haven't said anything about a desire to move things back to Robert (in fact, if you're curious MonkeyMan currently has my attention), I just think as I did back then that we need to get a straight answer out of this guy.

[MonkeyMan576]

If you think you're so convincing then why aren't I lynched yet, Gollum? Because you are throwing shit and trying to see what sticks.

??????

What does this have to do with anything?

It has to do with the quality of your arguments, or lack therof.

[Amrun]

Uh, no, not at this point, but that reaction is craaaaazy flail. And since when do you even remotely scumread me?

"You can't post 20 times at the same time" -- yeah right. You responded to ONE question in the post and then IGNORED the other question in the post, even after I poked at you about it AGAIN later. And then when I poke for a third time, you go, "BUT OTHER PEOPLE ARE LURKING WHY AREN'T YOU BOTHERING THEM INSTEAD"

Terrible.

p-edit:

Wayne, I meant outstanding in the sense that they have not been addressed yet, not that they are amazing. But they are amazing, too!

[Spaceman Spiff]

Oh and MonkeyMan is blatanly ignoring me. This is likely long overdue.

VOTE: MonkeyMan

Now that I have you here, care to explain?

[Amrun]

I got ninjaed like a shit-ton of times. 1208 is direction to Nero Cain, except the p-edit which is to Wayne.

[MonkeyMan576]

Oh and MonkeyMan is blatanly ignoring me. This is likely long overdue.

VOTE: MonkeyMan

Now that I have you here, care to explain?

I didn't ignore you. I posted right after your initial post.

[Twin Flames]

Anyone think that maybe Wayne is the 3rd party?

I have him as a meh town read, but jeez he is so going on and on about it makes me wonder.

Wayne dude if you are town, take a major chill pill, and lay off of Amrun we need her focused to help us find scumz... If you really feel the Miss sub hydra is scum, then MAKE a case, dont keep attacking someone who does not just sheep your read. Not everyone who agrees with you is your friend and not everyone who disagrees with you is your enemy.


I seriously doubt that Nero (Gollum) is 3rd party, and he seems town to me especially that post, I think he seems genuinely convinced that Monkey is scum...

--Rach


Pedit wait maverick is playing too? Or do you mean someone else there Spiff?

[waynegg]

And who the fuck cares if he knew you were a Nero Cain alt or not? Why does that have relevance here?

I care, for one. Monkey /inned literally two posts

after

Andy talked NC into playing as his Gollum alt. theres no way he missed that. Obfiscating stupidity allowed him to say they had never played together and also let him deflect Gollum's original question which he has, to date, still not answered.

[Amrun]

Ohh cool.

First thoughts, I'm a little surprised to see I didn't make MonkeyMan's

[sarcasm]

comprehensive

[/sarcasm]

readlist while his other two earlier scumreads did. I feel left out like he's trying to sweep his suspicions on me like a mistake under the rug ever since I pointed out this hot little number.

Monkeyman because he claims to have sheeped Venrob at a point where he read Venrob as scum

Cause you threatened to kill me and Venmar thinks you're scum.

It was pretty agressive for RVS.

And I mixed up Venmar and Venrob, that's pretty understandable I think.

Literally his only two reasons for voting me were my clearly comical RVS post and sheeping Venrob, his scumread.

Everything doesn't revolve around you. You aren't on the list because you aren't one of the first 5 on the OP.

That doesn't even begin to address the problem. You are just saying, "I didn't respond to you because you weren't in slots 1-5," which is both stupid and doesn't answer the question he was asking you to respond to in the first place.

WHY ARE YOU SO SCUMMY

I DON'T WANT TO VOTE WITH GOLLUM AND SPIFF

UGH

[Twin Flames]

see that is a good post Wayne do more of that thanks

Rach

[Amrun]

Wayne has greatly increased his posting quality these last few pages. It's been cool.

[Twin Flames]

ehh I dont get the only look at the first 5 players either, how can you do reads without at least LOOKING at everyone playing the game?

---Rach

[waynegg]

Is this to me Amrun?

Uh, no, not at this point, but that reaction is craaaaazy flail. And since when do you even remotely scumread me?

[Amrun]

Is this to me Amrun?

Uh, no, not at this point, but that reaction is craaaaazy flail. And since when do you even remotely scumread me?

No, to Nero Cain -- I clarified in my next post.

[Amrun]

I seriously doubt that Nero (Gollum) is 3rd party, and he seems town to me especially that post

Can you explain this and why you would say this?

[Gollum]

I have not once said anything along the lines of "monkey said so so he has to be telling the truth." Bottom line is it really doesn't matter whether or not he knew you were a Nero Cain alt or not. It changes literally nothing. There is no scum motivation to do so, and whether or not someone read the /in thread is irrelevant to the game itself.

I said that Monkey's 734 sucked and was unMonkey like.
He came back and said that he doesn't think we've played together.
I told him I was a Nero alt.
He say's he didn't know this.
I asked him if he read the signup thread.
He said yes.
but then he said he forgot.

So the question is weather he is telling the truth or not. And if he's lying about that he's being dishonest and as town he has no reason to be dishonest about that. So if he's lying then he's likely scum.

[Gollum]

I have not once said anything along the lines of "monkey said so so he has to be telling the truth." Bottom line is it really doesn't matter whether or not he knew you were a Nero Cain alt or not. It changes literally nothing. There is no scum motivation to do so, and whether or not someone read the /in thread is irrelevant to the game itself.

I said that Monkey's 734 sucked and was unMonkey like.
He came back and said that he doesn't think we've played together.
I told him I was a Nero alt.
He say's he didn't know this.
I asked him if he read the signup thread.
He said yes.
but then he said he forgot.

So the question is weather he is telling the truth or not. And if he's lying about that he's being dishonest and as town he has no reason to be dishonest about that. So if he's lying then he's likely scum.

[MonkeyMan576]

Stop saying what I did or didn't miss.

If you are going to lynch me for something totally unrelated to the game then get on with it.

I am Pippen, Vanilla Townie.

[Spaceman Spiff]

I didn't ignore you. I posted right after your initial post.

Yea thanks I got that I'm not in the first 5. Now let's talk about your shoddy reasons for voting me.

Pedit wait maverick is playing too? Or do you mean someone else there Spiff?

Maverick_alpha was asking about my reasons for voting Robert earlier