Mini 1479: Perpetual MyLo II - GAME OVER!

[Wisdom]

Yeah sorry but I only see this as an excuse to avoid posting content in this game.
You cannot meta people you don't know, period. Some people change their style every game. If you want to read N, see what he's doing in this game, not others. Same for everyone else.

[Wickedestjr]

Votecount 1.24:

TheIrishPope - [3] - Syryana, MrObvious, Metal Sonic
sangres - [3] - Cabd, Wisdom, GuyInFreezer
better than nachos - [2] - sangres, AdoboNation
Wisdom - [2] - Mutleyddmc, N
MrObvious - [1] - TheIrishPope

Not voting - [1] - better than nachos

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 6 to no-lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2013-08-10 22:32:45)

[Cabd]

No. Work seprately, and we'll convene again this evening about it. Trying something a bit different since you're not reeking of town as much as you usually are, this method gives me a bit more data to sort you with.

[Mutleyddmc]

Mutley, if you still think tippy is scum, look at his wagon.
And look at the reasoning of those votes.

They were all voted by lurkers. Means nothing to me

[Wisdom]

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if this clusterfuck continues Ill consider lynching Cabd next

[GuyInFreezer]

That ain't the point.
The point is that tippy wagon is still a useless rvs wagon.

[GuyInFreezer]

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if this clusterfuck continues Ill consider lynching Cabd next

The fuck is this?

[Cabd]

Get over yourself wisdom. It's how i play the game.

[TheIrishPope]

That ain't the point.
The point is that tippy wagon is still a useless rvs wagon.

There's a wagon on me?
Da fuck
Wow, I'm really not paying attention to this game...

[Wisdom]

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if this clusterfuck continues Ill consider lynching Cabd next

The fuck is this?

This is me not accepting Cabd giving leeway to ffery to post useless stuff unrelated to the game and get away with it. And to himself too.

[Mutleyddmc]

That ain't the point.
The point is that tippy wagon is still a useless rvs wagon.

exactly, hes scum. whos being protected

[Cabd]

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if this clusterfuck continues Ill consider lynching Cabd next

The fuck is this?

This is me not accepting Cabd giving leeway to ffery to post useless stuff unrelated to the game and get away with it. And to himself too.

Then just ignore it. It's how ffery and I sort each other. Skip over it if you like, but it's giving me a read on her in the best way I know HOW to read her.

[Wisdom]

Yeah of course. And then you'll magically call her town for things she can easily do as scum. Why the fuck can't scum go read some games and make up whatever read they want on anyone? This is only an excuse to avoid the game.

[GuyInFreezer]

That ain't the point.
The point is that tippy wagon is still a useless rvs wagon.

exactly, hes scum. whos being protected

Being protected from... What, exactly?

[Cabd]

So you've magically decided that I'm scum with her now, and that I'll magically flip my scumread on her? Yeah, no. You hate people who play meta based games, but i don't give a fuck. It's how I sort people, and I need to get a solid read on ffery.

[Mutleyddmc]

That ain't the point.
The point is that tippy wagon is still a useless rvs wagon.

exactly, hes scum. whos being protected

Being protected from... What, exactly?

a lynch duh

[sangres]

No. Work seprately, and we'll convene again this evening about it. Trying something a bit different since you're not reeking of town as much as you usually are, this method gives me a bit more data to sort you with.

Cool. I may have my vote on you before we get to that, just so you know.

That ain't the point.
The point is that tippy wagon is still a useless rvs wagon.

TiP's push on Muttley, though. That's actually vote-worthy.

So many scumfucks, so few votes.

[Wisdom]

No, I don't hate people who play meta based game, I play based on meta myself. I don't meta people I don't know however, because that's useless. Meta comes naturally, through experiences with others. Reading through games you're not a part of is completely different - you only read things the way you want and all you get is a biased opinion. It's only through scumhunting others (or trying to fool them as scum) that you learn how people think and you can meta them later.

Therefore, suggesting such an exercise that I know will have zero productive results only tells me that you give ffery a leeway from the game. There's enough info in this game to read ffery, yet you pretend there isn't.

[sangres]

No, I don't hate people who play meta based game, I play based on meta myself. I don't meta people I don't know however, because that's useless. Meta comes naturally, through experiences with others. Reading through games you're not a part of is completely different - you only read things the way you want and all you get is a biased opinion. It's only through scumhunting others (or trying to fool them as scum) that you learn how people think and you can meta them later.

Therefore, suggesting such an exercise that I know will have zero productive results only tells me that you give ffery a leeway from the game.

There's enough info in this game to read ffery, yet you pretend there isn't

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Highlighting this because you're right, but for the wrong reasons. Our eventual flip is going to suck for Cabd.

[sangres]

It was Nacho, and that's not even close to town-Nacho.

Are you ignoring me because I am feeling like scum?

it's highly disadvantageous for us as scum to pull a 1v1 with mollie on d1 because if we lynch her as scum and she flips town, we're going down immediately during the night or we're dying the next day by lynch, meaning Nacho-scum can't manipulate people and get points for his team like he wants to.

It's obvious only from this post that the plan to push mollie was pre-made. He had thought of this defense in case someone spotted what you're doing - he was silly to say it so easily the moment I did though.

I responded quickly because it's something that wasn't at all difficult to respond to. I've thought a lot about how I'd handle mollie as scum, and pushing her early in this setup doesn't really make any sense for me.

lolno. Surely it depends on the player playing scum, but it's a very common scum strategy to tunnel on a specific player, usually someone no1 else suspects, and ignore the rest of the game. That's exactly what you're doing, and it's not like Nacho to do that as town. As scum however he did exactly that in the one game I've seen him playing scum.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=28174
This is how I handled mollie as scum last time. By tunneling the fuck out of her.

Trying to sort out the wisdom v ffery thing. Feels like it's either TvT or TvS but really doesn't look like SvS.

For one, I don't understand why you're approaching the us-Wisdom argument and completely ignoring our attack on ffery. For two, I don't understand why you're looking at the arguments themselves instead of reading us as players which always always always sets off my scumdar.

@Wisdom, dude, you're Town, but step up your game. This is clearly ScumMutley. Did you ever read the sitcom Mafia?

Decently surprised that TiP hasn't commented on our wagon and instead is tunneling on Mutley pretty fucking hard. Usually TiP and I interact quite a bit when TiP is town, but this game he's ignoring me pretty hard. I don't like it.

do you even remotely understand why I am fucking freaking out that you are not signing your posts

If ffery signs her posts, I'll sign mine too! You know how I play my hydras and making the line between both heads isn't really the way I do that.

Nacho is also really starting to scare me because where is he?

Interesting. Why does me not posting in this game make you nervous?

[AdoboNation]

Fuck this speed

I'll get back to putting up unexplained reads tomorrow

nacho!

thoughts on mollie?

[AdoboNation]

Decently surprised that TiP hasn't commented on our wagon and instead is tunneling on Mutley pretty fucking hard. Usually TiP and I interact quite a bit when TiP is town, but this game he's ignoring me pretty hard. I don't like it.

Nothing on my seemingly ignoring you this game?

[AdoboNation]

Up unto this point I mean

[sangres]

nacho!

thoughts on mollie?

I think mollie is town right now, but I am not sure. She didn't really do anything else as far as other reads go, which I understand but still don't really like, and Andrius who won't manipulate the fuck out of me has not posted.

Decently surprised that TiP hasn't commented on our wagon and instead is tunneling on Mutley pretty fucking hard. Usually TiP and I interact quite a bit when TiP is town, but this game he's ignoring me pretty hard. I don't like it.

Nothing on my seemingly ignoring you this game?

You're not afraid to interact with me as scum.

[Wickedestjr]

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