Open 510: DUCK DUCK GOOSE- SCUM WIN!!

[Mutleyddmc]

maybe generic

[Generic]

Why Siv mutley?

[Mutleyddmc]

the whole Im using my one shot tonight etc.
Played with him once before he didn't really play like this

VOTE: siv

[Generic]

I assumed that was a gambit to make life harder for mafia... But I could see a bluff. I still think taskmaster is more likely town though, treble has been the one who concerns me more of who is left.

Also, did sound if silence post at all yesterDay?

[Taskmaster]

hi

[Taskmaster]

I think that 'gambit' was made to look town.

[Treble]

head 1 is bad scumhunter

all of you are too


#2

[Treble]

where is sound of silence is he lurky?

[Sound of Silence]

Lost track of this game. Will catch up in the morning and see what the other head thinks.

[Taskmaster]

Top suspects at the moment are Siv and treble.

But I dont like the Beetlejuice Sound of silence. You guys are a hydra, how could you have forgotten about a game? I would think at least 1 head knows of the game.

Guys, tell my why you think Siv's idea was a gambit and not a scum bluff?

Also, do you guys think its better to no lynch then hope scum hits a loaded PGO or at least get this game into lylo not mylo? Or do we lynch now and get lucky tonight?

[Generic]

We are in late game now, so I might as well say.

I assumed two or three were trying to draw the night kill on the first day, saying they had used the PGO when they hadn't and would use it that night. When not targeted they were out if a shot, so you double bluff it then and say you used it that night instead, hoping the mafia have already figured out the gambit and will hesitate to target you the night you actually are vulnerable...

Writing it out actually it seems a bit of a long shot plan so maybe I'm giving too much credit to people around here that they have the gamblers mentality :p

[Generic]

OK, have had a look back on siv, the key things that stoof out:

#10 - Sheeps the doctor claim joke from TIP

#93 - Excuses for lost analysis, then I vague set of comments on people with little commitment to any form of read.

#229 - more light commentary on people without commiting to any sort of read.

#342 - Filler, claiming no scum reads at all even though he has touched on criticism of the posts of others. This post is awful cos he says he doesn't want to post fluff, which is what this post is, wanted to jump on the taskmaster wagon just to have somewhere to start (?), then a comment about trying new meta. A lot of self image awareness present here.

#346 - takes issue with a naked vote from a player he has been slight buddying.
#356 - votes taskmaster with the reason of "whatever, im just going to follow voodoo".

#469 - makes a very odd post about how he couldn't possibly be scum with taskmaster with a logic that makes very little sense even if they were both scum. Makes a comment about how one of his options (having a way of getting off taskmasters wagon at a later point) doesn't fit with how he has been playing up to now (you know, totally uncommitted to any read or vote) and then promptly leaves the taskmaster wagon and votes for defender... so there was an exit strategy then?

#532 - explains he is voting for defender because his reads are all leaning and open to flexibility... yet siv has not commited to a single read yet. Also smoke screens his meta with a comment that this is his scum meta... Kaiser soze, hiding in plain sight.

#643 - the gambit of claiming he used his PGO shot in the night. Is this the gambit I explained above, or is this trying to draw out more people admitting they used theirs? Treble interestingly follows immediately after with the same admittance... both are conveniently still alive at this stage.

#679 - a push on TIP, finally with some reasons behind them. The most telling thing here is this was the last post he made on the day we got Hana. He never once made any push towards her or agreement about her scummy actions, he just disappeared completely.

#836 - Pops back up and is pushing TIP again. No mention of the hana lynch at all, but makes the second claim of the PGO use.

#856 - Posts filler and then claims later it was a prod dodge. But the comment is basically presenting TIP for the lynch again, and why is he concerned about a prod just 12 hours after his last post?

#876 - another awful self image post. wants to link lurking to his town meta. Also makes a snide comment about notmara running the day phase

#878 - WIFOM about notmara being killed in the night? link this to his comment about notmara being in charge and it feels like trying to distance from an intended night action.

#884 - What an awful post this is too. Slef meta again announced, this time claiming he finds an obvtown early in a game and sheeps them... claims this is notmara (buddying) and yet this is neither early game nor has he sheeped notmara at all by my read. He sheeped voodoo, and then spent two day phases attacking TIP as scum... and then in this post he promptly UNVOTES TIP to be scummy??? WTF? And add into that this was an unvote AFTER THE HAMMER, this is such a shitty move I don't even know what else I can say about it.

#890 - "Why is treble ignoring me" - mmaybe distancing themselves from the sinking ship after the ridiculous unvote debacle?
"Why is notmara recommending my lynch only if tip flips scum?" - Just making sure everyone is aware of this before TIP flips town and notmara dies in the night?

#891 - more trying to look scummy comments, trying to Kaiser soze your way out of trouble...

I have read enough, taskmaster had it right and I should have done the read back long ago... being at my laptop does help this a lot though.

vote siveure

[Generic]

Sorry, Mutley has it right, its cos taskmaster has been commenting on that gambit which is what made me ISO siv.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

GUYS.

I would not shoot notmara if I was scum. Now I have to actually make content as I promised yesterday, which is the bane of my scumplay. If notmara is alive I can sheep... yeah this argument is terrible. It's what i was thinking yesterday, but i can't sheep notmara if he's targeting me. Meh.

I also want to ask how you can think my scum acting is good enough to assume tip was scum and yet still be bad enough to be obvious to everyone - the unvote was a troll unvote your scumbuddy just before he's lynched yet he's not my scumbuddy lol.

Btw guys, about the gambit I still haven't used my shot lol . I'm in like no position to be shot now lol, so yeah on the coming clear on this.

Generic, you're assuming only scum play badly. Brilliant assumption. The unvote is null, except maybe it has a hint of townsiv due to meta. Possibly. Or I'm being biased on it being town. Regardless, it's not scummy, and it's just confbias if you think it is.

Gonna take snippets from the case, lessee...

About #532, what was scummy was the reads list. I didn't make reads, but I didn't make it seems like I had. The comment on #876, um, lurking is part of my meta for both alignments, really. It's more scummy, but I DO do it as town through part of some games. Rarely through all the game as town, usually whenever I can as scum.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

And mutley, I like the pick your power setup. It's easy to get into that for me, especially given the draft.

And I'm slightly in trouble as to reads. I had a thought that it was notmara in 890.

[Mutleyddmc]

I've used my shot so likely to die tonight

[Sound of Silence]

I'm caught up. I want to think about Task's question about no-lynch and discuss it en-hydra.

I'm surprised no one else really has an opinion on that. generic, you gave it a passing nod, but I can't tell if you like or dislike the idea.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Mutley when did you claim you used your shot beforehand?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

This is really hypocritical but i think that's kinda scummy if that's his first claim.

And thinking more mebbe not. Idk.

[Taskmaster]

Selfmeta

[Mutleyddmc]

I'm claiming I used it now

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Taskmaster where's there self-meta?

[Generic]

Siv, you claimed to have used it TWICE. How comes its scummy when mutley does it but not you? and even then you fence sit on the comment... sigh.

Why do I have to write you off as town just because you are playing terribly again? You are so conscious of self image and you try to make a big point of blatant scumminess. That's trying to cover your arse on the scum slips you didn't mean.

[Ms Marangal]

[Ms Marangal]