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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:02 am

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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:03 am

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Any one got anythoughts on the rest of what has been said other than saki claiming scum
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:04 am

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In post 99, Mutleyddmc wrote:Ignoring your partners lie?
lol. You sure are confident, and wrong. Saki could be scum, but I'm not. Also, your strategy so far has produced 3 solid roleclaims, and another subtle vague one by my count. Is it standard practice/theory to expose all the roles on D1? Seems like a scummy play and not pro-town at all.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:06 am

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Saki has lied. Could be is very very unlikely.

I'm 90% sure all 3 of you are scum.

100% sure 2 of you are scum

100000000000% sure saki is scum
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:07 am

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If I was scum I'd have no reason to reveal the info I currently hold and would keep it secret.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:10 am

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In post 102, likeabauss wrote:
In post 99, Mutleyddmc wrote:Ignoring your partners lie?
lol. You sure are confident, and wrong. Saki could be scum, but I'm not. Also, your strategy so far has produced 3 solid roleclaims, and another subtle vague one by my count. Is it standard practice/theory to expose all the roles on D1? Seems like a scummy play and not pro-town at all.
It didn't produce mine, so 2. Before reading everything he said I posted my claim.

P-Edit: Mutley, with all the respect I can muster, shut up. Wow, that was hard. I think I broke something.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:12 am

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Well since mutley didn't get my cue to shut the fuck up.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:13 am

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Shut up cos I broke the game??

No thanks
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:14 am

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In post 104, Mutleyddmc wrote:If I was scum I'd have no reason to reveal the info I currently hold and would keep it secret.
False, you're role fishing. With a complete knowledge of the game role distribution, scum has another advantage. This play you're making does not assist the town as much as you suggest.

Lastly, the only people who are certain about alignment on D1 are scum. And you sound pretty certain. You could be bussing Saki or just pulling a sacrifice play to eliminate town power roles. Either way, its easy to see the scum motivation for playing as you are.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:14 am

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You needed to shut up 'cause a) the re-roll wasn't supposed to happen and b) what you're saying is absolute bullshit.

And yeah, I claim scum. Lynch me if you want.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:16 am

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In post 108, likeabauss wrote:
In post 104, Mutleyddmc wrote:If I was scum I'd have no reason to reveal the info I currently hold and would keep it secret.
False, you're role fishing. With a complete knowledge of the game role distribution, scum has another advantage. This play you're making does not assist the town as much as you suggest.

Lastly, the only people who are certain about alignment on D1 are scum. And you sound pretty certain. You could be bussing Saki or just pulling a sacrifice play to eliminate town power roles. Either way, its easy to see the scum motivation for playing as you are.
I'd rather lynch you or karnage. Cos you have the roles.

If I was scum I'd know I didn't get my role and keep it quiet and know who to kill.
You;ve been caught out playing the game wrong. Scum need to take 1 shot redirector and roleblocker. not Jailkeeper and 1 shot vig. If they are top 2. You will get found out eventually
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:18 am

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/mute Mutley

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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:20 am

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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:23 am

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@Likeabauss: it also gives us an idea of what roles could scum possibly have, however I still think it's too early for any massclaims or anything.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:24 am

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Also
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:24 am

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Mutley, you're making assumptions based on assumptions. Guess what that means? (Hint: it involves you being wrong)

Also, its WIFOM completely to speculate on what good/bad scum would do vs what good/bad town would do. I'm not going to get into a WIFOM speculation battle with you, but you're being extremely short sighted.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:28 am

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I'm not sure about bartlet. He had no reason to come out with his info if he was scum after I did.

bauss - saki has lied and claimed scum yo uare ignoring that who is short sighted.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:29 am

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In post 113, Sakura Hana wrote:@Likeabauss: it also gives us an idea of what roles could scum possibly have, however I still think it's too early for any massclaims or anything.
It sure does, but it tips the scales towards scum. They already have an information advantage so they're able to piece together the missing links with more clarity/certainty. Its no good this early in the day phase and its pushing towards a quick lynch which also deprives us of more info. Either way, its anti-town in nature, whether its deliberate scum play or just bad town play.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:29 am

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and bauss this set up is easy to manipulate. Not my fault you and your buddies got it wrong. I might be wrong that both you and karnage are wrong. But I will bet my house on it that one of you is. No way town get 1 and 2, and take JK slot and vig slot.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:30 am

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Will it be bad town play when all 3 of you flip scum..........
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:32 am

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Saki can be temperamental and I'm not sure if he's being serious or facetious because he's frustrated. Do you believe everything a person says in mafia?

At this point, I'm not prepared to lynch anybody just yet because there is plenty to discuss and explore.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:32 am

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Had I got my role, I'd never have revealed this info as probabilty would be both of you are town. The fact I didn't means probabilty one of you was scum. The fact I know the other took 1 shot vig slot, means that one of you is pretty much guranteed, if not both.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:33 am

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In post 120, likeabauss wrote:Saki can be temperamental and I'm not sure if he's being serious or facetious because he's frustrated. Do you believe everything a person says in mafia?

At this point, I'm not prepared to lynch anybody just yet because there is plenty to discuss and explore.
He got caught out lying about what role he bidded for. That's the main point.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:33 am

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I'm with Mutters on this by the way.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:34 am

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Third pick as scum or town in this set up is awesome. You gain so much info. If I was scum, I'd have gone roleblocker.

If I got that role I've stopped a doctor. If I don't I know the doc is likely the second in the draft and have the kill target for the night!

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