Mini 1484 - Pick Your Partners (Game Over)

[Varsoon]

I don't know shit about PJO.

I should crack open a snapple sometime and read up.

PJO scum is my vote.

That's all.

Garantula, I like those guys as town, but fuck working with people.
Tossing in my chips.

[Does Bo Know]

Ummm

So you're not caught up yet?

Or are you? Lol

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Pjovek (5): DrDolittle, Titus, Varsoon, Guy_Named_Riggs, Natirasha

Guy_Named_Riggs (4): Haschel Cedricson, Does Bo Know, T S O, Pjovek
Mutleyddmc (2): Mutleyddmc, nickthename
Varsoon (1): TheGarantula
TheGarantula (1): Egg

Not voting (0):

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Deadline is September 1st, 2 p.m. CEST.

[Egg]

If I get home at a decent time of the day, I'm going to catch up on this game completely today. This assumes my phone battery is fine when I get home.

[Haschel Cedricson]

[quote="In post 218, Does Bo Know"]Paranoia's coming back. I'm thinking Pjovek is VT too. No one seems to know who he is so he was likely near the bottom of plenty of lists.[/vote]

This is a good point. In order for Pjovek to be scum, then SOMEBODY would have had to rank him highly and the only three people I think that could possibly be are Titus, TSO, and Mutley.

Titus is on the Pjovekwagon. I doubt he would bus this early, but despite his vote his posts have surprisingly little on Pjovek.

Mutley needs to start participating.

[Does Bo Know]

Haschel, so do you think Mutley has a high chance of being VT too?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Statistically I think so.

Pjovek probably more so, since on forums in general people tend to be prejudiced against people without avatars.

[TheGarantula]

UNVOTE: Varsoon

I'm going to reread this thread today; It all went so fast that I think I should refresh.

Pjovek probably more so, since on forums in general people tend to be prejudiced against people without avatars.

Citation?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Citation?

10+ years of posting on various forums?

[Egg]

Nat has aactually swayed me (Page 5) about revealing lists. if a town list isn't as helpful as I initially thought and scum are all gonna lie about their lists if they are really helpful (well no shit they will), it really doesn't help us. That being said, I still didn't like TheGar and Guy's reactions to the suggestion of outting lists. I also was assuming that people low on a lot of town lists are unlikely to be town, but they would need buddies who had them high so that's probably not true. That may have been a bias I had against the two of them as they were low on my list. The reactions still look bad, but I'm putting less weight on that for now.

Drdo, what made you vote pj for wanting lists revealed over me for suggesting it? Why not even mention the other people who support it and commpare to pj's push?

Titus's vote on pj is opportunistic.

I actually really like TheGar's analysis of his own wagon.

I don't like Titus's logic on Varsoon. I see TSO already covered that though.

Post 142 reminds me of scum Bo (no relation to Dumbo). He concedes an arguement he feels he's losing and asks about something else to change the subject. I feel like he was doing that as scum in another game before. However, I'm not sure if he does it as town. I just remember feeling a PING PING PING for stuff like that before and he flipped scum.

I don't wanna lose my post so I'm posting this

[Egg]

If TSO was lying about not checking his list due to laziness, he'd just give a lie as an answer, not avoid it. So it's dumb to assume the hesitance is scummy.

I think it's hard to tell if pj was joking about varsoon claiming alignment. I usually am the one that gets the joke and can't understand why other people can't. But this one just didn't stand out as a joke to me. Either way, I don't think they are scum together.

Haschel, why did it take TSO asking you for a scum read for you to switch your vote to Guy?

Weird ass coincidence on pj's varsoon joke. I don't buy it but I don't think he's scum for it so I'll drop it.

Titus actually looks town at the bottom of Page 9. I know that's a complete 180 but that's what I see.

Guy's reaction to a quick wagon is pretty horrible. I'm not so sure people would have him high enough on their list to be his buddy(ies) though. Ehhh. A few random lists and people not knowing him and it's possible.

Bo's 239 seems like buddying up to TSO.

Bo, in 245 are you suggesting Nat is scum with pj and his vote is distancing with no intent to lynch?

Nat, doesn't Guy have a history of coasting as scum though?

I can see the point that Guy forgetting his stance on a major discussion is very weird. With a genuine stance, that shouldn't happen.

unvote, Vote Does Bo Know

. My most confident scum read. I could support the Guy wagon if it came down to it though.

[Egg]

Statistically I think so.

Pjovek probably more so, since on forums in general people tend to be prejudiced against people without avatars.

Mirth always seemed well liked to me and never had an avatar as far as I can remember.

[Natirasha]

Nat, doesn't Guy have a history of coasting as scum though?

I have no idea. Although the 2008 in my join date is deceiving, I took an...extended vacation...between March 2009 and June 2013.

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: Which is a roundabout way of saying I have no previous history with anyone in this game.

[Does Bo Know]

@Egg: 245 was an assumption that Nati could be scum trying to make sure a wagon would stay off of GNR. Like making Pjovek a counter wagon. After that though, he cleared himself up (not a fast voter, needed more compelling evidence) and that eliminated my suspicion.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Pjovek (5): DrDolittle, Titus, Varsoon, Guy_Named_Riggs, Natirasha

Guy_Named_Riggs (4): Haschel Cedricson, Does Bo Know, T S O, Pjovek
Mutleyddmc (2): Mutleyddmc, nickthename
Does Bo Know (1): Egg

Not voting (1): TheGarantula

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Deadline is September 1st, 2 p.m. CEST.

Mutleyddmc has been prodded.

[Egg]

Nat, yeah you were always that guy who everyone called VI and I never understood why. Maybe the RVS self voting thing. I dunno. But yeah I was surprised to see you were back.

Bo, k.

[Mutleyddmc]

Thinking about the set up of this game, I'm pretty sure that those who know eachother are likely scum.

[Egg]

Do you think Titus is lying about putting people he knows at the bottom?

[Natirasha]

Nat, yeah you were always that guy who everyone called VI and I never understood why. Maybe the RVS self voting thing. I dunno. But yeah I was surprised to see you were back.

Bo, k.

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but have I played with you before? I can't seem to remember...

And I have my moments of idiocy still.

[Egg]

I played my fair share of games with you.

[Titus]

Do you think Titus is lying about putting people he knows at the bottom?

Why would I lie about that? It gains me nothing.

@HC, Yeah my posts don't contain much about Pjovek but he's not exactly giving me much to work with either.

[Pjovek]

I'm giving enough.

[Egg]

I find it hard to believe you don't see what the benefit would be if you were scum with those people.

[DrDolittle]

Re: GNR being Mafia
I dont think GNR is mafia because how he highlighted the benefits of Town keeping mafia alive. I think he would have been more discreet in pushing town away from Mafia and hunting werewolf.

Re; Why Pjo
"Forcing scum into a lie is worth it in my book.
Every time they do, they run into risk of discovery."

This is a completely invalid reason on so many counts that it is basically scum trying to pull shit right out of his ass. I'm going to highlight everything that's wrong
"

Forcing

scum into a lie is

worth it

in my book.
Every time they do,

they run into risk of discovery

."
While it makes sense normally and you say, oh it looks ok, under first glance, this PYP setup circumstance deems this highly inappropriate (as mentioned in my previous posts).