Open 520: Stacking the Deck Part II - Game Over...Mafia Win!

Sakura Hana · Post Post #425 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:11 am

Does no one else see anything wrong with this?
Aug 13, 2013 2:28 pm: "Ignore Bubba"
Aug 13, 2013 2:54 pm: "I love Hammers!" *Hammers bubba*

jsmith1234 · Post Post #426 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:19 am

Sakura, you're assuming Saki didn't change their mind after reading some more, or didn't see any other viable candidates at the time and felt like following consensus, or just wanted to end the day, or was just lazy, or had some other reason for doing what they did. Regardless of their reason, I don't think it outweighs the townieness from awestfie's slip, so I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Also, mafia trying to avoid suspicion is less likely to just hammer so hypocritically in the manner you're describing, unless you really think Saki made a poor move as mafia.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #427 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:28 am

in the span of 30 minutes?

jsmith1234 · Post Post #428 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:31 am

Yes. And that's assuming rereading was even the reason why Saki changed their mind.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #429 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:34 am

Another question, why do you have to answer for him?

notscience · Post Post #430 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:42 am

Yeah but I forgot to xd

Sakura, why do you hate the newb card

Sakura Hana · Post Post #431 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:44 am

In post 430, notscience wrote:Sakura, why do you hate the newb card

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5199106

jsmith1234 · Post Post #432 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:49 am

In post 429, Sakura Hana wrote:Another question, why do you have to answer for him?

Because you're suspecting someone who has a very high likelihood of being town, which is a waste of time and effort.

JasonWazza · Post Post #433 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:41 pm

In post 416, bubbajack8 wrote:Obligatory.

In post 279, bubbajack8 wrote: Fuck you, told you so, Bah post.
Oh and to go even more with the I told you so.

In post 362, bubbajack8 wrote:You guys are basing scum 2 on a flip that hasn't and
won't
happen.

You realize a bah post has no in game info AND you don't get a bah post if your lynched right?

I haven't got no time right now but i will say this.

If a protective role was on the IC last night, i hate you with a passion.

jsmith1234 · Post Post #434 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:45 pm

No protective role in this setup can stop a kill. Only roleblockers can.

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #435 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:50 pm

ohey jsmith. You're actually in this game. Cool.
Jason- What's your speculation concerning last night's events?

notscience · Post Post #436 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:56 pm

Mutt where are you

elleheathen · Post Post #437 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:45 pm

Bahaha, niiiice.

In post 417, jsmith1234 wrote: (elle strikes me as a potential candidate).

Meh. I stand by my vote.
If you're being ridiculously scummy, I'm going to think that you're ridiculously scummy.

In post 426, jsmith1234 wrote:Sakura, you're assuming Saki didn't change their mind after reading some more, or didn't see any other viable candidates at the time and felt like following consensus, or just wanted to end the day, or was just lazy, or had some other reason for doing what they did. Regardless of their reason, I don't think it outweighs the townieness from awestfie's slip, so I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Also, mafia trying to avoid suspicion is less likely to just hammer so hypocritically in the manner you're describing, unless you really think Saki made a poor move as mafia.

Actually,

you're

assuming that this supposed 'townieness from awestfie's slip' couldn't have just as easily come from an unrecruited mafia as it might have from town. Smaller odds, sure - still a possibility.

In post 423, notscience wrote: Do you really think I have the attention span to read it

i haven't yet but I'll catch up later

Atm I'm focusing on the now

You're not missing much.
To recap:

jsmith votes for experienced players rather than information/scumminess.
skip ahead 5 pages of the RWARCAPSPARTY that this should not be followed as an example.
bubba makes himself out to be the scummiest person ever and says 'IM TOWN' as his defending argument for the next 10 pages.
mutley, jason and i are the main bubba opposition. bubba gets lynched and we own the night.

So what do you think of 'the now'?

Also. Most of you are hard as hell to get reads on. JSYK.

lol

In post 422, Sakura Hana wrote:I don't know how you went from "Ignore bubba" to "ok he's scum LET'S HAMMER"

I agree that

alone

it looks a little odd - but looking back at it, it looks more like:

Saki replaces.
"HAI! Prepare for the love of fluff!"

"Hey Saki, we're stalled. Help us out."

"OKAY!"

It doesn't look to me like she's worried about being seen as scum there. But you guys seem to all have some history. Is this Saki normal?

Saki · Post Post #438 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:52 pm

I bet $20 that you can't read me right on the first try.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #439 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:55 pm

all saki does is fluff,

he

also loves hammering that's true too, but from his "ignore him" post i'd think he had a townread on him, otherwise he'd have more to comment, which is why im a little iffy on him hammering like nothing.

@jsmith: so are you gonna scumhunt or are you gonna shoot down other people's scumhunting because you disagree with the target of their questions.

Saki · Post Post #440 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:58 pm

In post 439, Sakura Hana wrote:all saki does is fluff,
he
also loves hammering that's true too, but from his "ignore him" post i'd think he had a townread on him, otherwise he'd have more to comment, which is why im a little iffy on him hammering like nothing.

@jsmith: so are you gonna scumhunt or are you gonna shoot down other people's scumhunting because you disagree with the target of their questions.

"don't listen to X" != "I think X is town"
You'd ignore what scum says too, right?

Also I played with bubba on my alt. If that's context enough.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #441 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:59 pm

So you were really scum reading him?

Saki · Post Post #442 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:00 pm

I haven't even read the thread yet. I was okay with getting bubba, though.
Even if he's town he wouldn't have helped much.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #443 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:07 pm

In post 442, Saki wrote:Even if he's town he wouldn't have helped much.

Well i can see that he didn't help at all, have you ISO'd the IC tho?

Saki · Post Post #444 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:10 pm

On my phone, so not yet.

I haven't even read the thread what makes you think ive iso'd a specific player
also id expect ic to do nothing

Sakura Hana · Post Post #445 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:15 pm

he's doing worse than nothing actually.

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #446 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:17 pm

In post 445, Sakura Hana wrote:he's doing worse than nothing actually.

Basically.
Which is aggravating.

notscience · Post Post #447 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:48 pm

Saki

Are you scum

Mutleyddmc · Post Post #448 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:31 pm

Reckon the traitor got hit last night

JasonWazza · Post Post #449 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:48 pm

In post 434, jsmith1234 wrote:No protective role in this setup can stop a kill. Only roleblockers can.

Never mind me, apparently i can't read, i thought there was a doctor as well.

In post 435, fuzzybutternut wrote:ohey jsmith. You're actually in this game. Cool.
Jason- What's your speculation concerning last night's events?

Given we have a proven no kill, my speculation is the roleblocker claims, this doesn't assure his death as he can still do a roleblock, and we lynch the scum, the rest of my speculation is this, we probably have at least one more PR, i doubt that a scum team would pick none of the upgrades (i personally would pick 3 of them so

)

However, setup spec without a scum flip is unlikely to help us.