NY 166: Knight-Errant 18p - Game Over!

[Human Destroyer]

Marquis I can agree to an extent but potentially you're saying that because of the scumread on hd as opposed to people are generally being ignored. Is there anyone else you think is being ignored like hd + as a result that is a major issue?

for a while it's also been oriole and kx. personally i didn't even know oriole was in this game before they posted like last page

also my scumread on hd isn't just lurking and lurking for a while after v/la ended, it's the massive unexplained flipflop in these posts

evil regals is town

Please do not fish me. I will summon Captain Hook on you and put you on a boat and send you to evil Neverland.

I want to call you town for having good taste in shows.

I really really do.

Yet I don't have a townread on you. It's not even that you feel scummy, it's just that I don't feel any town from you.

like... what is this please

my shitty memory of this game is what this is

[Human Destroyer]

Beast is being his weird self, don't value my ability to read him at all.

Not interested in the lynch. Let's kill Bald Kirk!

[The Purple Rose]

I think a good lynch would be SV, still.

Js

Exactly how do you think posts like this alter your life expectancy?

[Hopkirk]

"Not interested in the lynch. Let's kill Bald Kirk!" Must be mafia since killing.
He's still avoiding my questions about why he's voting me which makes his vote irrelevant to me, want to provide a reason yet HD?

[The Knight-Errant]

Marquis replaces Concombre. (The kyucumber head of the hydra was inactive.)

Vote Count 2.5

beastcharizard (6) - EddieFenix, The Purple Rose, Metal Sonic, notscience, Shattered Viewpoint, Evil Regals
Shattered Viewpoint (1) - Abdelrahman
Hopkirk (1) - Human Destroyer
meeps (2) - oriole, dopog
Human Destroyer (1) - Marquis
Metal Sonic (1) - beastcharizard
Abdelrahman (1) - meeps
dopog (1) - Hopkirk

Not Voting (1) - KX

Countdown:
(expired on 2013-08-29 17:00:00)

15 alive, 8 to lynch.

Human Destroyer is V/LA from the 20th to the 22nd.
KX is V/LA until the 20th.

[KX]

KX is V/LA until the 20th.

Glad to see you finally got this right

Anyway,

V/LA for a few days

Also god I feel like half this town is scum. Will sort it out and explain later.

This one deserves death.

Why?
On Purple rose actually:

He doesn't think they are a scumteam, no, they look like masons.

Same reasoning used for some of the Katarina vote, why mention a scumteam when a mason would be the obvious conclusion, so while the reason has been proven to not be definitively true, still makes me somewhat suspicious. Figured I'd point this out.

@Shattered, why are you wasting time by asking about the puzzle, and what's wrong with HD?

This is the scummy way to respond to a question. It might work with your mother, here you have to look like a grownup.

Ignoring the obvious insulting, how is it scummy? I think it was legit point, and even if not, how is it scummy? Also, to top it all off, the question wasn't even directed at me specifically, so it's not a bullshit question dodge like you seem to be implying.

KX was not on my radar but definately earned a spot.

This was posted after the first quote. I'm glad to know Rose is excluding people who make scummy actions from her radar.

Oh yeah, and I figure I should add in that reading over Rose's iso, she seems kinda scummy in general. Almost all of her posts are just quoting things and then saying "this is scummy," not really pushing things, only stating opinions. While stating opinions isn't scummy, quite the opposite in fact, it's scummy when it's all that you do. Makes it seem like you're doing things while not really contributing. Also, her reasons for the Fegelein vote were dubious at best, and there's quite a bit of hypocrisy in the statements she makes about Abdel.

That said,

Vote: NotScience

, this still needs to happen. Will prob be making a case for it next post.

[notscience]

^lol

[oriole]

Am I the only one who forgot SK existed? I was honestly surprised at 2 kills.

VOTE: Metal Sonic

He comes in and says he likes his role. Pretty much claimed a PR and did nothing to be helpful.

p-edit:
You are voting me because Feg didn't like me. I will accept this vote to honor his death. I would like an explanation eventually though.

p-edit2:
I didn't breadcrumb on purpose and I didn't even breadcrumb a possible role. I said inspector. Also, I am not the only one who breadcrumbed. Look at Metal Sonic.

i do not need a doctor

i need a watcher

laying this on the table right now

in other news

i am willing to policy lynch abdel

additionally i was right about katarina/hannah flipping town

meanwhile
VOTE: Shattered viewpoint

Why do you know/think that there is a watcher in the game and why do you need them on you? This is a very odd post. It just hit me that you may very well be SK rather than just on the scum team. Either you are fishing for roles, which is scummy, or you already know which roles are in the game. If you know which roles are in the game the only possible role for you to be would be SK. They have a one shot of every PR in the game.

@MS: You came into the game asking for a watcher to be on you. How is that not suspicious? Why won't you answer me how you know there is a watcher in the game? Is it because if you do you will be revealed as the SK or that you are revealing one of the scum PRs? You don't have to tell me why you need them on you at least answer the part of how you know/think there is a watcher in the game.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: beastcharizard

I'm seeing some SK-hunting from beast... and not much else. The turn-around of looking for a SK is particularly bad when PV was clearly killed by the SK last night. Looking through PergrineV's ISO, he only mentions beast once, when asking for someone else's read on him. Beast has never mentioned PV.

[notscience]

Hi oriole

[Evil Regals]

@Dopog:

I don't know why you are asking me this when the answer is chilling in my ISO already. yes I use meta to scum and town hunt.

[beastcharizard]

Well before I get lynched I should probably claim.

I am Town 3-Shot Commuter.

I didn't use one last night since I had a lot of suspicion on me so there is no way the scum would kill me. It would be greatly appreciated if we could unvote me so that scum doesn't come in and hammer me under the pretense of: "They were super scummy and we all agreed."

I am trying to find SK because they have the ability to run away like I do. Lynching them is by far the best option since you can't run away from a lynch.

[Abdelrahman]

Fuuuuuuuuuuck

Why the hell did you claim?

[Marquis]

Fuuuuuuuuuuck

Why the hell did you claim?

This is stupid. Would you really like to know why he claimed? Because if he's telling the truth, he is the

(CLAIMED) 3-SHOT COMMUTER

who due to certain people just barely and randomly popping in and tossing votes on him

IS AT L-1

with 7 votes while the next biggest wagon is meeps' with 2 votes.

[Marquis]

I just looked over the setup possibilities board and:

At the moment, I am inclined to believe his because being at the edge of the setup possibilities board, it's not an ideal PR-claim-as-scum. In my opinion, scum claiming Town 3-Shot Commuter is silly

because it gives a chance for more real Town PRs to counterclaim

. Not including the duplicate same-role counterclaims/contradictions, here is the possible counterclaims list:

Scum-Beast claiming 3-shot Commuter:

any Town Tracker, Town Doctor, or Town Roleblocker will know for sure that he is lying.

Scum-Beast claiming Town Bulletproof:

no PRs will know for sure that he is lying.

Beast doesn't strike me as the type of player who as scum would just recklessly claim without thinking about the possible consequences. The way I see it, this is an honest claim and Beast's earlier scummy diction was just a result of him being normally weird as hell. Also, anyone willing to risk lynching a PR claim like this in the midst of Day 2 without any viable existing counterclaims so far isn't being pro-town at all.

Now I'm okay with a meeps lynch because of meta differences I've seen from some of the offsite links posted, but I'm not going to just settle for it when the day's nowhere near the end, and when we haven't even heard anything useful from many inactive and V/LA people. Take him off L-1 for now and keep the day going, please. :/

[Marquis]

lol i tried so hard in those posts now scum cant say "i didnt know he was at l1 oops shit" bitch pls

in hindsight this wagon is horrid

i also hate wifom which could be totally applicable to my argument but i will punch you in the face if you try to invalidate any serious shit with "lol but wifom"

[dopog]

Hi. I wholeheartedly agree with #1013.

Believe the claim is geniune.

Further - even if it is not geniune; the claim will be easier to verify as the game goes on, and dropping a lynch "just in case" or "wifom", when there are almost definitely players in the game who would know if beast were lying, is pretty rubbish.

Also nice selective quoting to jump on to beast and hopping off meeps; oriole.
His vote on meeps looks pretty weak now.
Definitely saying meeps/oriole scum.

@evil regals; I wanted to know because you said this in a previous game and wondering if you still believed it (potentially will link later buy on ma phone);
"meta is a lazy way to try to get a read on someone."

So yeahh.... Do you still believe that?

More coming -> will be back soonish.

[The Purple Rose]

Scum-Beast claiming 3-shot Commuter:

any Town Tracker, Town Doctor, or Town Roleblocker will know for sure that he is lying.

How do you figure this? As far as I could see, cop or BP would know for sure. And I'd be rather annoyed if a cop claimed for that here. That's more then beast deserves.

Further - even if it is not geniune; the claim will be easier to verify as the game goes on, and dropping a lynch "just in case" or "wifom", when there are almost definitely players in the game who would know if beast were lying, is pretty rubbish.

It's the only one where he doesn't have to explain why he isn't dead yet. Now I wonder how that helps a fakeclaim of scum on day 2. And @marquis, it's hardly random, being at l-1 he was more or less forced to claim something. This isn't the worst fakeclaim on the board, gives no info, can be counterclaimed by the cop, has the ability to live for a couple more days.

[Hopkirk]

UNVOTE: Unvote dopog
VOTE: Vote abdelrahman

Why wouldn't a pr claim on l-1. Sounds more like a scum wanting an easy lynch and disappointed about it.

[Shattered Viewpoint]

STOP


HAMMERTIME

unvote

Vote: beastcharizard

Time for day to be over, don't you agree?

[The Knight-Errant]

Checking to see if that's a lynch.

[The Knight-Errant]

It is not.

[Metal Sonic]

STOP


HAMMERTIME

unvote

Vote: beastcharizard

Time for day to be over, don't you agree?

STOP

CAUGHT YOU RED HANDED SCUM

DONT YOU AGREE

Vote: Shattered Viewpoint

[Metal Sonic]

for someone who is joined 2010 that is fuckin stupid

your vote was already on him

and i thought you were once of those "25th July 2013" guys

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

[notscience]

UNVOTE:

[Marquis]

lol foiled fakehammer for towncred attempt