Mini 1484 - Pick Your Partners (Game Over)

[Mutleyddmc]

GNR, Garantula, Varsoon all bolded or voted by Pvjovek
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DrDolittle, Titus, GNR, Varsoon, Natirasha, and Garantula were on the Pvjovek train.

It is highly unlikely that Varsoon, GNR or Garantula are wolves.

DrDolittle and Natirasha are possible wolves but if they were scum I'd think mafia first.

HC, TSO, Egg, Tochica or Mutley is likely the wolf if we scumhunt in that direction based on vote pattern. Looking through their ISOs to see any suspicious absences of Pvjovek.

HC's 254 suggests Titus, Mutley or TSO is the other wolf. TSO/Mutley wolf is consistent with the vote pattern.

TSO RVSes Mutley suggesting they are not on the same team. However, he has no mention of Pjovek in his ISO.

Egg seems to recognize the wagon but worries it was moving too fast. Not sure on this one.

Tochica, says he would lynch Pjovek if it came down to it but keeps his vote on DBK. Watch this one. Analyzes the wagon though.

Mutley's ISO looks scummy as fuck. No analysis anywhere with self-voting.

wooo self vote RVS is scummy, me and nat obviously scum then

[Haschel Cedricson]

No analysis anywhere with self-voting.

wooo self vote RVS is scummy, me and nat obviously scum then

You're focusing on the wrong half of the sentence.

[Tochica]

Hmm I haven't noticed if he didn't mention PJ I will check later. So is it him and Mutt saying they had random lists? Anyway

unvote

[Tochica]

Mutl please don't pretend that it's the RVS vote that's bothersome about you. Post some content.

[Natirasha]

Okay, actually, rereading TSO, I find it likely he is the other wolf.

First, his list was randomized. I think it's safe to say everyone who's list wasn't randomized did not deign to put Pjovek towards the top of their lists. This would narrow down our candidate pool to those who haven't randomed(Mutley, TSO, did anyone else fail to submit?).
Second, read post 67. Third, the little Pjovek WIFOM thing could be babby's first WIFOM and he only went one layer deep(I know I said to ignore the WIFOM, but I'm working with the theory Pjovek is a big noob, in which case I think he would bluff us into thinking he was lying while telling the truth). Fourth, his entry today distinctly said he wanted to kill mafia, not scum, not werewolves. No, he wanted

mafia

.

But Haschel is also likely a mafiate. You all have done the groundwork on the case already, so I'll just /barn that stuff.

UNVOTE: . Let's discuss some more before I vote again.

[Tochica]

Actually no, even though HC seems to genuinely suspect TCO of being ww it doesn't make him less likely to be scum. I seem to suck at that multi faction thing. Hc is still good vote, very unlikely ww though.

vote HC

[Haschel Cedricson]

Actually no, even though HC seems to genuinely suspect TCO of being ww it doesn't make him less likely to be scum. I seem to suck at that multi faction thing. Hc is still good vote, very unlikely ww though.

vote HC

Except the only case against me is that I think lynching the werewolf today is a good move, which is a conclusion that more people should be reaching anyway.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Haschel Cedricson (3): T S O, Titus, Tochica

T S O (1): Haschel Cedricson

Not voting (7): DrDolittle, Egg, Guy_Named_Riggs, Varsoon, Mutleyddmc, TheGarantula, Natirasha

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Deadline is September 12th, 6 p.m. CEST.

[TheGarantula]

The remaining Werewolf will definitely not see the town and mafia the same. The mafia members know each other, so if the werewolf gets rid of too many townies the mafia will be able to figure out who he is Thoth on PoE.

[Tochica]

What's also bothersome is that you seemed to use Pj's post as argument rather to explain youself before asking, also the fact you didn't go trough the jumps on Pj's wagon just assumed he wasn't bused because they are two. I'd make sure I pay closer eye on the votes if such poe was my scum hunting plan.

[Tochica]

@Garantula probably but I don't see how speculating what ww will want to do helps us.

[DrDolittle]

The remaining Werewolf will definitely not see the town and mafia the same. The mafia members know each other, so if the werewolf gets rid of too many townies the mafia will be able to figure out who he is Thoth on PoE.

Hmm. I forgot about this - evidently I didn't think this through.

[Tochica]

Lol I for some reason thought DrDo's posts from day two were coming from Garantula (so I thought he changed his view and been thinking about it this whole time) so last post by DrDo made no sense... nvm me.

[Tochica]

Right going through TSO iso it's so he did not mention Pj which is odd given he was the wagon of the day. This post

With the votes being 3-3 between two players, The Pjovek is a man of weighing decisions.

He decides on the spider.

VOTE: TheGargantula

Mutley's wagon is completely RVS. Gargantula's isn't.

It wasn't a hard decision, was it?

though is absolute bitch if he was Pj's partner. Combined with Pj's claim he is his buddy I am not sure I fancy him for a partner.

[T S O]

I wasn't on the Pjovek wagon because I wasn't online, my list was randomised but I'm pretty sure Pjovek is high up on it, I think hunting ww is a bad idea, true, and incorrect.

Honestly I'd be willing to lynch Haschel or Dr. Dolittle. One of them is Mafia. Guaranteed.

[Titus]

Elaborate please TSO. Why is one guaranteed to be mafia?

[Varsoon]

Elaborate please TSO. Why is one guaranteed to be mafia?

Stealing my words before I can type them.
This.

[DrDolittle]

Hunting werewolf is not a bad idea. Going after a potential werewolf when there is an obvious mafia on board is a bad idea.

[Titus]

Who do you think is the obvious mafia and why?

[Tochica]

I am around but not much action I see. We need more people voting, voting is what makes the game spin and sparks discussion.

Varsoon you said you played with Mutley, is this his usual style?

[Varsoon]

Yeah. In games I've played with him and seen him in, he performs best mid-game and when asked questions directly/treated with a bit of respect.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Crosspost to all my games: Sorry for not posting; I got home from work yesterday with an awful headache/fever and was herded into bed immediately by my wife. Then today at work the Internet and phones have been down all morning and they just went back up. I'll try to take care of my work backlog and post this afternoon, but I'm afraid I can't make any promises. If I don't come back today, I'll definitely be here tomorrow.

[Mutleyddmc]

Varsoon knows me too well <3

I am a very calculated guy even though it may not seem it

[TheGarantula]

Hunting werewolf is not a bad idea. Going after a potential werewolf when there is an obvious mafia on board is a bad idea.

VOTE: DrDolittle
Why should we try and hunt the werewolf today? What qualifies as an obvious mafia? Or did you have someone specific in mind?

[Haschel Cedricson]

But Haschel is also likely a mafiate. You all have done the groundwork on the case already, so I'll just /barn that stuff.

Going after a potential werewolf when there is an obvious mafia on board is a bad idea.

Everybody seems to think that I'm a mafiate because I think we should lynch the werewolf today. This attitude makes no sense at all. If I were mafia, then the werewolf would be the LAST person I'd want to lynch today. Werewolves are the only faction that can kill, which means the only hope the mafia have of not having two confirmed townies until endgame is to keep the werewolf alive to kill off the masonry.