Death's Diner -Game Over-

[Rift Adrift]

Actually, is that to me? It assumes town so that's pretty strange.

It was mostly to Slandaar.

IMO you are more likely to be scum than Natirasha, but you are nowhere close to my top scum reads. They are non-starters today, which irks me immensely.

[Natirasha]

Wound both wagons settle on PV or AJ?

[BROseidon]

I would 150-200% lynch p5.

AJ is pretty fucking town after the whole "AJ is counterwagon to scum" thing.

[Titus]

I am down for a PV lynch as well but it's not likely happening here.

[Amrun]

If I were forced to compromise, PV is a good alt but I am loathe to let nat live.9

[Rift Adrift]

I would 150-200% lynch p5.

AJ is pretty fucking town after the whole "AJ is counterwagon to scum" thing.

explain this thing plz.

[BROseidon]

explain this thing plz.

There is a wagon on scum.

A last-second counter-wagon forms on someone and threatens to fizzle the wagon on scum.

Wagon on scum goes through.

That second wagon is not suspect at all >.>

[Rift Adrift]

The aj wagon wasn't exactly last second.

[Slandaar]

Well this is a turn of events

Titus is scum.

[BROseidon]

[quote="In post 2932, Rift Adrift"][/quote]

The wagon picked up steam in response to the Zoidberg wagon, though.

[roflcopter]

lynch amrun lynch amrun lynch amrun lynch amrun lynch amrun *breath* lynch amrun lynch amrun lynch amrun lynch amrun....

[Rift Adrift]

The wagon picked up steam in response to the Zoidberg wagon, though.

"Amid the pressure of great events, a general principle gives no help" ~~ Hegel

[Slandaar]

Scum killing a cop n1 makes total sense. If that's not the usual play of scum, then to any situation on this site.

Yes it does make sense, but it didn't happen here so FACTS ARE 100% of my experience is scum DID NOT kill a cop n1.

Why are you arguing differently? your experience differs somehow?

Killing a deathy gives scum more ability to hide as it would be harder to figure out the dead guy's alignment as he'd have no investigation to share at all.

Completely wrong.

Bonus if you get one of the sane guys.

Yes, so how is it harder to figure out this guys alignment if you know they would flip their sanity? You know their alignment straight up there is no figuring out.

Frankly, I was surprised someone outside the deathy was shot.

Of course you were.

Even if you wind up having the goon caught faster

Thank you for this information the town greatly appreciates it.

it's still a better move to cause confusion and prevent people from trusting the cops long term. It's a no brainer to me.

Yes, but the scum didn't do that and they have all the information about their roles which you if you were town wouldn't hence its not a no brainer they shot the lovers, they killed 2 town with one shot, thats pretty good, if you are not going to shoot a cop that is kinda a good alternative maybe even better in the situation.

Now the question is who figured out they were lovers/masons. Shooting them and them flipping VT, yes thats bad choice, but thats not wht happened which you conveniently ignore repeatedly.

@elvis, Sorry but that's deliberate. I would rather have two confirmed town than one. If one dies, the other will be near conf-town. Note: This is not masons.

That is just amazing. All I have to say on it, Amazing.

The scum also somehow managed to not get killed when your ability should kill them if they target TD so they shot Xiao? I mean they KNEW what they were doing noone makes that kill unless they knew.

Thanks for playing.

Compromise wagon is go

VOTE: TITUS

tl;dr; Titus slipped the Dethy scum is a goon. Titus clearly made the kill on Xiao. Titus argues stuff that makes no sense.

[roflcopter]

eh sorry slaandar i don't really buy it

i'm willing to lynch amrun, muffin or rift adrift today

[Rift Adrift]

Day 1 - Tiphaine and Xaio say that their roles confirm each other as town.

Day 1 - Tiphaine makes it pretty clear that Titus sent something/did something to him that confirmed Titus. Titus makes noises about heads exploding.

Day 2 - Xaio and Titus are both dead, flipped lovers.

I doubt figuring what those posts might mean and who was the safer target required scum genius.

[Slandaar]

Titus: Scum wouldn't care about protecting the Dethy scum cos hes a goon.

Rift/Rofl: Eh Na Titus is town.

lol

[Rift Adrift]

Titus: Scum wouldn't care about protecting the Dethy scum cos hes a goon.

Rift/Rofl: Eh Na Titus is town.

lol

Then what the fuck are you doing?

[Titus]

Umm no I really pushed the last Zoidberg wagon Slandaar. You checked me. I came back innocent. Scum going for insane play mayhaps.

[Titus]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Dethy

My so called slip comes from the Dethy.

[Aunt Jemina]

Send me a memo when you decide someone you've been considering up scum up until now is Town and who you've replaced them with.

Not nearly as unlikely as you imply it to be. While I still have you and Ammy as scum, the other slots are less solidified. My read on Muffin is currently a scumread, but I had a strong townread on his predecessor. My read on Rifty Drifty is not yet reversed, but it is possible that they could be bumped off.

There are others who I am considering putting (back) on the scum-list as well. I have my eyes on both Bazzy and Grinny. For the moment, my reads are not yet different than they have been since Nati's claim. But this may change, as I continue to think things over.

@Aunt Jemima,

you express concern about the attempted counter wagon on PeregrineV. That wagon has both the confirmed town dead players on it. What do you make of that?

That they think they see something sour in Grinny. I am uncertain, and currently lean away from that being true, but trust me, it is something I am in the process of weighing.

This is literally the stupidest reason for a lynch ever. An insane or paranoid cop checked me, so I should be lynched! No. Information lynches are fucking stupid. We'll figure out the dethy anyway, because scum will kill them and they flip. Herpaderp.

I would like to point out that Ammy is stating it to be insane/paranoid. This is a mental note to double-check her stance on Brossy, since there were arguments about how Brossy might not be confirmed town. Depending on the strength of those arguments and her input at that time, this may be a scumslip if she was in the crowd insisting that Brossy could still be sour.

I still believe the wagon on Nati to be strongly scum-driven. It has Ammy, Ghosty, and Grinny all supporting it, as well as alternative picks for scum. If you believe Ghosty to be a town cop, chances are you believe Sonny to be the scum cop, and he is present on the wagon as well.

wagon stall is scummy

Yet you are voting a wagon which gained momentum literally overnight, and ignoring the Ammy wagon which

has

stalled multiple times.

[Titus]

Guys we have less than two days. Nati is back at L-2 thanks to Slandaar's voting me.

I think he deliberately derailed a train on a town because he couldn't defend it.

[BROseidon]

That AJ post was incredibly town.

Now are we lynching p5 or Amrun because this Nati lynch is bad.

[roflcopter]

i object to a p5 lynch based on stuff i said in the dethy qt overnight

[Titus]

rofl, BRO, can you guys clarify the status of Amrun/Slandaar for the group tomorrow? His move makes NO sense whatsoever.

[Amrun]

Guys we have less than two days. Nati is back at L-2 thanks to Slandaar's voting me.

I think he deliberately derailed a train on a town because he couldn't defend it.

Explain that last sentence. Wtf.

@AJ: For someone you have a scumread on, you don't know my stances very well.

I am no longer entertaining the notion of a broseidon scum after the Zoidberg flip.