Mini 1490 - Chef Mafia (Game Over!)

PeaceBringer · Post Post #450 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:01 pm

In post 446, d3x wrote:Teke-a it a smell peeece-a et a teeme-a. Iech is a deefffferent secshun.

Sumeteemes I'm oonly eble-a tu pust oonce-a a dey oor ifery oozeer dey. Bork bork bork! Iff I hefe-a a lut tu respund tu, I'm nut gueeng tu breek it up und clootter zee threed. Bork bork bork! I preffer pusteeng in a seengle-a bluck es ooppused tu 5 oor 6 cunsecooteefe-a pusts. Um gesh dee bork, bork!

well then you will be largely ignored imo

The Slovak Prince · Post Post #451 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:05 pm

In post 408, Pyrotechnics wrote:Okay hear ye...hear ye...members of the town block as discussed this evening are the ffery hydra and the mara hydra which syry vouches for as town with no doubt.

So, TT and SP here's what we think:

d3x is town. you guys are town (duh town block). jake is town. (I have town read on peacebringer don't know about spry)

we think that scum is in (kthnxbye, amrum, porochaz, kybuby (I have a scum read on thenewearth, he says hellifiknow.

don't know about maestro or rank but meh.

what have you guys got for us.

d3x - i hear you on kthnx and i will look into more of his games. I'm kind of unnerverd that he hasn't responded to that meta read of mine. I would expect someone who was town to respond to that, so i'm all eh. But I'll look into things later...or ffery will cuz she's a better meta diver than I am.

I'm thinking Elyse is scum

and Rank is probably town

I still don't think Kthnx is scum, and I do think that Kyu is also town

I agree with you on Poro and Amrun, though I get the feeling that Amrun and Elyse aren't on a team together and I don't like either of them so I need to sort out who, between the two is scum.

Explain your town-read on PB?

I have a gut read on TNE, I'm unsure why though

I'll take your word on Jake

There are alot of earlier posts that I have trouble seeing from Kthnx scum, like him willing to lynch one of players he knows well AND one who he thinks is town. To me, it looks like he is attempting to make this game easier to read for everyone and since the only way he would be able to get him out of the game is lynching him, that is what he does.

I also really, really do not think that Kthnx would claim Macho when asked to do so. As scum, there are a whole lot more better fake-claims to give other than Macho VT with a post restriction.

Him expecting someone he knows well to see through his town game is town.

Him not fighting his lynch (sogodhelpme) is superduper town IMO

I don't see any scum-intent in any of his posts at all

The Slovak Prince · Post Post #452 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:08 pm

Oh Jake, I have something for you~~

In post 297, The Slovak Prince wrote:also, Jake what's wrong with lists of reads?

Kthxbye · Post Post #453 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:10 pm

I think y'all should lynch me today. As much as I think d3x should know I'm town, I think he's started his town tunneling. It is more than disturbing that it's on me when I feel he should know better, but the fact that he is doing it makes me lean back on town after taking a step back and realizing if it was on anyone else, it would be screaming town to me.

So, this brings my scum pile to porochaz, Amrun and I like the case/votes on newearth.

So yeah, lynch me today and move on to the 3 above and ignore my talk about d3x. Though he should know better and I will chastise him appropriately after I'm dead, he looks to be doing his town tunneling and it won't quit till I'm dead. Y'all will be much better off with him moving on (see my death) than to have him barking up the wrong tree (my lynch) for multiple days.

Add in the fact that my "pr" is worse than being a VT, and it's best if you lynch me today. I don't need to be anywhere near end game and might as well get me out the way early.

The Slovak Prince · Post Post #454 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:15 pm

In post 453, Kthxbye wrote:I think y'all should lynch me today. As much as I think d3x should know I'm town, I think he's started his town tunneling. It is more than disturbing that it's on me when I feel he should know better, but the fact that he is doing it makes me lean back on town after taking a step back and realizing if it was on anyone else, it would be screaming town to me.

So, this brings my scum pile to porochaz, Amrun and I like the case/votes on newearth.

So yeah, lynch me today and move on to the 3 above and ignore my talk about d3x. Though he should know better and I will chastise him appropriately after I'm dead, he looks to be doing his town tunneling and it won't quit till I'm dead. Y'all will be much better off with him moving on (see my death) than to have him barking up the wrong tree (my lynch) for multiple days.

Add in the fact that my "pr" is worse than being a VT, and it's best if you lynch me today. I don't need to be anywhere near end game and might as well get me out the way early.

This is also probably coming from town than scum

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #455 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:28 pm

In post 452, The Slovak Prince wrote:Oh Jake, I have something for you~~

In post 297, The Slovak Prince wrote:also, Jake what's wrong with lists of reads?

they are an incredible waste of time, time that could be better spent re-reading and scum hunting. It provides scum with way too much information, and typically when 1 person does it others feel obligated to do it. Now the one minor bonus to that is if multiple people start doing it, I feel (not proven mind you) that if town was the first to start, scum will do one also to blend in.

List reads are also a ploy I have actually seen used by scum to make people think they are town, cause for some dumb reason people think that if you take the time to do a list of reads, you have to be town.

so I hate them

One leftover said to another 'foiled again.'

trebuchet tabby · Post Post #456 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:29 pm

In post 453, Kthxbye wrote:I think y'all should lynch me today. As much as I think d3x should know I'm town, I think he's started his town tunneling. It is more than disturbing that it's on me when I feel he should know better, but the fact that he is doing it makes me lean back on town after taking a step back and realizing if it was on anyone else, it would be screaming town to me.

So, this brings my scum pile to porochaz, Amrun and I like the case/votes on newearth.

So yeah, lynch me today and move on to the 3 above and ignore my talk about d3x. Though he should know better and I will chastise him appropriately after I'm dead, he looks to be doing his town tunneling and it won't quit till I'm dead. Y'all will be much better off with him moving on (see my death) than to have him barking up the wrong tree (my lynch) for multiple days.

Add in the fact that my "pr" is worse than being a VT, and it's best if you lynch me today. I don't need to be anywhere near end game and might as well get me out the way early.

I very much understand the sense of fatalism where posts like this one come from. It's not a good place to act from in mafia.

Amrun · Post Post #457 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:43 pm

Tabby, what does it say about kthx alignment?

trebuchet tabby · Post Post #458 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:47 pm

I want to think it says town.

Amrun · Post Post #459 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:51 pm

Why all the qualifiers?

trebuchet tabby · Post Post #460 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:55 pm

Because although it's almost always been town players in games I've played, I've seen a couple players who get that fatalistic as scum. Happened recently in an open game I played. Will see what I can dig up in the meta pile.

Kthxbye · Post Post #461 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:11 pm

In post 456, trebuchet tabby wrote:
In post 453, Kthxbye wrote:I think y'all should lynch me today. As much as I think d3x should know I'm town, I think he's started his town tunneling. It is more than disturbing that it's on me when I feel he should know better, but the fact that he is doing it makes me lean back on town after taking a step back and realizing if it was on anyone else, it would be screaming town to me.

So, this brings my scum pile to porochaz, Amrun and I like the case/votes on newearth.

So yeah, lynch me today and move on to the 3 above and ignore my talk about d3x. Though he should know better and I will chastise him appropriately after I'm dead, he looks to be doing his town tunneling and it won't quit till I'm dead. Y'all will be much better off with him moving on (see my death) than to have him barking up the wrong tree (my lynch) for multiple days.

Add in the fact that my "pr" is worse than being a VT, and it's best if you lynch me today. I don't need to be anywhere near end game and might as well get me out the way early.
I very much understand the sense of fatalism where posts like this one come from. It's not a good place to act from in mafia.

This isn't from a fatalistic POV. Hell, I only have 3 votes on me. The reason this is a good strategic move for town is because:

-d3x probably won't drop the tunnel until I'm dead
------d3x is an overall good scum hunter and though wrong this time, if I'm dead, he can move on more readily. That's not to say he won't look for scum while tunneling, but he'll spend more time there.
-I don't need to be anywhere even close to a LYLO situation...period.
-My "PR" is worse than playing VT and I will likely forget 3 times again in the future and lose my vote for the day....again. This could be MAJORLY bad for town near end game and turn a LYLO into an insta-loss.
-With the suspicion surrounding me, even though I'm a sure kill for scum at night, they won't do it.
------If I were scum, I'd keep this slot alive as long as possible to get to a LYLO situation with this slot in it.

I don't see any benefit of keeping me alive today unless there is a major scum-slip from scum between now and my lynch. Unless you can say for certain that these "defeatist" posts are 100% from town kthx, then I need to die sooner than later, and I'd rather sooner tbh.

thenewearth · Post Post #462 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:23 pm

In post 419, Jake from State Farm wrote:Oh peace, you asked me about new earth? I have him as mildly scummy. He made comments about me and when I asked him to clarify what he meant, he instead called me town and moved on. I don't see why he would ignore it, especially when it was what he was using to call me scummy. I'm ok with votes on him but this chk/maestro slot is confirmed scum at this point.

Old skiers never die, they just go downhill

To clarify, I was calling you null and I didn't want to vote you.
But if it was between you and dx3 I would choose you.
Provided that it was JUST you and dx3

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Spoiler: Reasons why we should vote peacbringer

PeaceBringer · Post Post #463 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:23 pm

LOL, you can find a # of ways to vote me any given game, any give day. NE.
I am not, nor ever have been a read/tell player. (explanatory)
Everything you describe TNE you can describe in any game I play.
Nice summing up of what I do in any given game though. Kudos.

Amrun · Post Post #464 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:24 pm

I like post 461, but even if it's genuine and not successful ate, it's correct. It shouldn't be in lylo and I want it lynched today. Still more likely to flip scum than town, but even if town would be very bad in lylo.

PeaceBringer · Post Post #465 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:30 pm

for the curious- sample page from where I come from-

Spoiler:

PeaceBringer · Post Post #466 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:31 pm

ugly read/format though... have fun with it...lol

Elyse · Post Post #467 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:38 pm

I think chk replacing out is a town tell if anything. As scum, why would he care about an annoying post restriction if it hurts town anyway?

But I don't like the idea of "lynching kthx before LyLo" when we should be trying to avoid LyLo. I'd rather lynch a scummy player right now than a player who's probably town just to avoid something we might not even come to.

Also, PB, do you honestly expect anyone to read through that massive quote wall? What is it supposed to do?

Amrun · Post Post #468 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:39 pm

Pretending I said he wasn't scummy or probably would flip town... Nice cherry picking there.

Elyse · Post Post #469 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:50 pm

Where did I say those were your opinions?

PeaceBringer · Post Post #470 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:57 pm

In post 467, Elyse wrote:I think chk replacing out is a town tell if anything. As scum, why would he care about an annoying post restriction if it hurts town anyway?

But I don't like the idea of "lynching kthx before LyLo" when we should be trying to avoid LyLo. I'd rather lynch a scummy player right now than a player who's probably town just to avoid something we might not even come to.

Also, PB, do you honestly expect anyone to read through that massive quote wall? What is it supposed to do?

Not really...more a passive aggressive tweak... someone will try and sort through it though...

Kthxbye · Post Post #471 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:11 pm

PB is town

The Slovak Prince · Post Post #472 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:06 pm

In post 467, Elyse wrote:I think chk replacing out is a town tell if anything. As scum, why would he care about an annoying post restriction if it hurts town anyway?

But I don't like the idea of "lynching kthx before LyLo" when we should be trying to avoid LyLo. I'd rather lynch a scummy player right now than a player who's probably town just to avoid something we might not even come to.

Also, PB, do you honestly expect anyone to read through that massive quote wall? What is it supposed to do?

This is a classic scum-post guys

The Slovak Prince · Post Post #473 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:08 pm

and 461 is just reeking of townie, town, townieness

PeaceBringer · Post Post #474 (ISO) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:15 pm

vote elyse...

TNE is probably scum also...