Micro 224: 2nd Chance Draw Mafia (A Winner Already?!)

[Kazekirimaru]

ac, if you do in fact like wagons as an RVS-ending tool, then why did you criticize Venrob for disliking his wagon before he could answer my question? We missed out on getting a solid town or scum tell on him depending on how he answered.

[Venrob]

Yeah, overreaction isn't exactly my thing as either town or scum. Unless the theme has a mechanic where my lynch on day 1 makes scum instantly win, then I might freak out. I just find L-2 in 3 posts scummy. I got voted in all 3 of the first 3 posts. L-2 in 2 pages is ending RVS, but 3 votes on me IMMIDIATELY just strikes me scummy!

Due to the same reason I randomvoted kaze he randomvoted me; understandable, random, not scummy. ac then adds another, striking odd, though still not crying scum- it happens. Then VA put's me L-2 right away! THAT tells me that 2 of the 3 are prob scum. Since I can understand kaze's vote, that leaves ac and VA-- well, unless kaze got lucky having a good reason for the BW.

Anyways, UNVOTE:
VOTE: ac
Not random. Reasons stated above. VA unvoted 2 posts later, so that leaves a master plan unlikely including VA. Then again WIFOM is a thing... But for now, I don't know ac, and ac was the second wagon vote and still has not unvoted. This gets serious now, folks!

[Cheery Dog]

Vote Count 1b

Player	L-4 Vote	L-3 Vote	L-2 Vote	L-1 Vote	L-0 Vote (Hammer)	Total Votes
Venrob	Kazekirimaru	ac1983fan				2
ac1983fan	Buffy vs Dracula	Venrob				2
Viera Assassin	serrapaladin					1
Buffy vs Dracula	aptil					1
serrapaladin	DeasVail					1

Not Voting Viera Assassin penguin_alien

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch Deadline [countdown]0.00[/countdown]

[Cheery Dog]

[insert info involving ongoing game]

[INSERT ONGOING GAME INFO].

It has come to my attention that these posts are circumnavigating the ongoing games rule.
This is an

official warning

to cease talking about ongoings in any way whatsoever.

DO NOT TALK ABOUT ONGOING GAMES!

[DeasVail]

Dracula, I don't want to be too worried about people being scum when considering their arguments. I would also expect you not to make something up about serra being more questioning elsewhere because scum are generally too scared to do that kind of thing. If you have fooled me in that regard, however, then well done.

Also, this may seem random, but are you from PerC?

[ac1983fan]

venrob this is my reaction to your latest post

But you're probably town for it
UNVOTE:

VOTE: Deasvail
This is just gut but I don't see anything town in DV's posts

[aptil]

Venrob is trying to make a case of something really stupid. I think those votes were random and they have stayed because there is not much activity going on here.
Edit in preview:
VOTE: Venrob. Hopefuly this keeps pressure on you.

[Kazekirimaru]

ac, I asked you a question. Refer to the top of the page, please.

[DeasVail]

Aptil, I think that town are more likely to make irrational cases than scum.

[serrapaladin]

Hopefuly this keeps pressure on you.

Well he won't feel pressured if you tell him it's a pressure-vote, now will he?

I'll get to this in a bit.

[aptil]

Serra: With that lannister av, anything you say will be first considered scummy .

[ac1983fan]

ac, I asked you a question. Refer to the top of the page, please.

I know I just was gonna respond and then I got busy and then I forgot lol

ac, if you do in fact like wagons as an RVS-ending tool, then why did you criticize Venrob for disliking his wagon before he could answer my question? We missed out on getting a solid town or scum tell on him depending on how he answered.

Because what could have possibly been gained from his answer to that question? Like he would have either said "because I'm town" or "because it's too early to be lynching someone". Neither of those statements is a tell w.r.t. alignment but rather only experience.

[Cheery Dog]

Vote Count 1e

Player	L-4 Vote	L-3 Vote	L-2 Vote	L-1 Vote	L-0 Vote (Hammer)	Total Votes
Venrob	Kazekirimaru	aptil				2
ac1983fan	Buffy vs Dracula	Venrob				2
Viera Assassin	serrapaladin					1
serrapaladin	DeasVail					1
DeasVail	ac1983fan					1

Not Voting Viera Assassin penguin_alien

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch Deadline (expired on 2013-09-17 09:15:00)

Prodding penguin_alien

[Venrob]

I am indeed still here! Not much to say, please do note the

V/LA

banner by my name. More LA than V, with schol and stuff- not much to be of the posting either, sooo.... Just noticed i was close to a prod, so this post is mostly a proddodge- which is sad, I posted last ON THIS PAGE and I still need to proddoge.

Also

@MOD

Viera is now due for a prod aswell.

[Viera Assassin]

No I am not

[Venrob]

oh you are V/LA, forgot about that. Lol I just checked the activity overview for how long since my last post and saw you at exactly 2 days. Sorry bout that!

[DeasVail]

Can we get more votes on serra or something? Nothing's really happening and I'm not sure how to change it.

[Venrob]

What is your serra case?

[penguin_alien]

EBWOP: Of course it submits the message while I'm still typing....

I am L-2 in the first 3 posts. Not good.

Did you think you were actually going to get quicklynched, or is this an attempt to be too scummy to be scum? Do you think there was scum on your wagon at its peak?

ac1983fan, you say early L-2 wagons are good to gauge (over)reactions. So what do you think of Venrob's reaction?

Disappointing, he should have freaked out a bit more. People freaking out is the best way to leave RVS.

So what do you make of the fact that he didn't freak out and is analyzing his wagon instead?

Buffy vs Dracula, do you remember serrapaladin being more questioning than this...in the tail end of RVS? Or in general? And what do you think he'd be questioning?

[serrapaladin]

VOTE: DV

Spoiler: Cute.

@Voodoo: HI I remember that game; fun times! My game now is pretty different to back then, though (and I've decided newbie games aren't good for me). You know, I drove a few townies into the ground through over-analysing and I got mislynched by a few shouty people, so I like to think my game is a bit more nuanced now.

@DV: let's talk about how you are willing to sheep Voodoo (do you know her, btw?) onto someone you don't know because of a fairly nondescript statement that implied she hadn't actually played with me in a while. Or you could just admit to being scum? As the most experienced player here (I think?), cheerleading doesn't become you.

@ac: explain how 51 makes venrob town.

I'm sort of travelling at the moment, but I should have regular internet from tomorrow.

[DeasVail]

No, we haven't! I'm not sure what you would expect differently though, and the fact that you haven't provided this makes me suspect that you're more concerned with making me less confident in my suspicion of you than anything else, but it's still early days, so who knows?

I don't believe that you actually think I'm scum by the way. Also, you implying that I would not consider other people's arguments is insulting.

[Kazekirimaru]

ac, I asked you a question. Refer to the top of the page, please.

I know I just was gonna respond and then I got busy and then I forgot lol

ac, if you do in fact like wagons as an RVS-ending tool, then why did you criticize Venrob for disliking his wagon before he could answer my question? We missed out on getting a solid town or scum tell on him depending on how he answered.

Because what could have possibly been gained from his answer to that question? Like he would have either said "because I'm town" or "because it's too early to be lynching someone". Neither of those statements is a tell w.r.t. alignment but rather only experience.

He could have said an infinite number of things that weren't those responses. And if he did say such, We still could have gotten a read off of either of those responses. Your reasons for not letting him answer make no sense at all. This is a game about gauging reactions and asking questions; hindering such is scummy.

Guess what?

Unvote

VOTE: ac1983fan
That's what.

[DeasVail]

And no, I don't know Voodoo.

[serrapaladin]

Your post had a hint of "yes. good. go start me a wagon."

Did you think Voodoo wasn't going to follow up on that point unless you gave your approval? You didn't add anything except that you would be willing to go along with her argument if she voted me.

[DeasVail]

Your post had a hint of "yes. good. go start me a wagon."

Did you think Voodoo wasn't going to follow up on that point unless you gave your approval? You didn't add anything except that you would be willing to go along with her argument if she voted me.

I agree that my comment wasn't necessary, but I think that's the only thing that could be held against it? I was thinking about who might be scum other than Kaze at the time, and you seemed a reasonable option if Buffy was right about your different behaviour.

That is not why I'm voting for you now though, nor is it the main reason for changing my vote from Kaze to you.