Mini 1484 - Pick Your Partners (Game Over)

[Tochica]

@egg fair enough, no point going back and forth.

[Egg]

Mutley, link me every game where you've been scum and Bo was town.

[Mutleyddmc]

I've never benn scum with bo

[Egg]

Have you been scum in games where Bo was town?

[T S O]

Mutley's recent "I wouldn't kill Bo" is such blatant WIFOM bullshit.

I can already predict Mutley's claim anyway.

[T S O]

Mutley's recent "I wouldn't kill Bo" is such blatant WIFOM bullshit.

I can already predict Mutley's claim anyway.

[Mutleyddmc]

Have you been scum in games where Bo was town?

No that's what I meant I've never been scum where no has played the game

[Mutleyddmc]

Mutley's recent "I wouldn't kill Bo" is such blatant WIFOM bullshit.

I can already predict Mutley's claim anyway.

Actually it's not. When I see Bo after the game or my death it's so he knows I love him and would never ever kill him

[Mutleyddmc]

You can't predict my claim. Please PM the mod with your prediction so it's wrong when it happens.

[T S O]

Oh, really? Can't I? You basically told us you weren't Mason so the only thing left for you to claim is ...VT.

Now you'll neither confirm nor deny this so you can draw your lynch out a bit.

[Egg]

Have you been scum in games where Bo was town?

No that's what I meant I've never been scum where no has played the game

Perfect. Explain how you know this then:

The point was that if yo uare saying I killed varsoon now for being able to read me would I not have done it earlier

If you are wolf, I'm sure you had a good reason for killing Bo N1. Maybe it outweighed your reasons for killing varsoon immediately, especially if he was going to write off your lurking as "normal". Why waste the bullet N1 when you can get away with another day of lurking?

I'd never kill Bo. I love Bo.

Then theres the added bonus

he can't read me

so I'd keep him around for ever to talk with.

As town, you aren't worried about people reading you. You are only worried about it if you are scum. But you're not worried. He can't read you. He's townread you in scum games before. Oh wait, this is his first time doing that:

I think Mutley's town for certain reasons

Mutley, your play is unorthodox compared to others I've played with. Because of that, and I hate to sound like the bad guy, I feel like that's why no one wanted to partner with you, and that's why you're a VT to me.

And then if no one wanted to partner with Mutley due to unorthodox playstyle, maybe no one gave him a chance as a partner, so he's a VT by default.

If you are scum, he clearly couldn't read you. Hell, his reasoning isn't even based on your play. It doesn't look like he even tried to read you because he had such a hard time with it.

So why kill him? Because it's not obvious. Mr "calculating guy" decided to pull a WIFOM kill before taking out the obvious Varsoon. Who knew?

Seriously.

You said he can't read you. What else could that mean? When else has he failed to read you to the point where your tone seems to be bragging about scum play that Bo can't read? He hasn't. Because this is the first time you've been scum in a game with Bo. And he couldn't read you. So you killed him because no one would suspect it.

And here I was thinking slips didn't exist.

Damn I'm good.

[TheGarantula]

Claim, Mutley. I have my hammer hand held high.

I'm Egg just cracked the safe that holds all your scummy little secrets.

[TheGarantula]

Lol phone typo. Still claim, though.

[Titus]

Prod dodge

[Mutleyddmc]

Wow egg look at all that wrongness.

I am not worried about him reading me it's based on if I am scum
The whole he can't read me is of I was scum I would keep him alive so therefore wouldn't kill him.

I know he can't read me cos he's told me.

I'm VT obviously as TSO said

[Mutleyddmc]

Cos garantula is a real life prick and will just hammer anyway get TSO. If he flips mafia get GNR.

Dunno about the WW. That misrep about me slipping is bad from egg

[Mutleyddmc]

Before I go egg I really can't see how that post comes across as me worried that he can't read me?
It was more a statement in why I would never kill him

[Mutleyddmc]

Actually you say if you are town you aren't worried about people reading you. Only scum are. Then the next line you say 'but you aren't worried'

So surely that would make me town

[Tochica]

Shrug, Egg, I think you are starting to tunnel hard here and see everything Mutley says as scummy. Provoked by your argument, and the fact Mutley claims bo told him so, I tried looking into games of bo and mutley playing together and found that in the first game I found http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/CwDkUhxRFWpi I will quote from dead topic post #106 here:

Bo said:

No but seriously this game is moving pretty slowly.
For the love of God I want Mutley to flip scum in one game he's in and town in another so that I could have the slightest possibility of reading him next game we're in together.

I stopped reading after that, if anyone feels like digging more they are welcomed but imo it's totally possible bo did tell him so.

Regardless of this whole argument I just feel that's wrong and we have better chance hitting on scum if we lynch TSO.

[TheGarantula]

Never mind. Tochica's post made me decide not to.

Mutley, where did Egg say you were worried? Please quote it.

[TheGarantula]

Actually you say if you are town you aren't worried about people reading you. Only scum are. Then the next line you say 'but you aren't worried'

So surely that would make me town

That's not how logical implication works. Being worried might imply that you are scum, but not being worried wouldn't therefore imply that you are town.

[T S O]

Mafia probably suspect Mutley's the Werewolf and they know they have to make sure he stays alive or they lose.

Tochica is creeping up my scumdar.

[Natirasha]

Mafia probably suspect Mutley's the Werewolf and they know they have to make sure he stays alive or they lose.

Tochica is creeping up my scumdar.

I think it's more that GNR has siteflaked or whatever and we don't have a replacement.

[T S O]

Haschel needs to post, as does GNR. *sigh*

Egg already dissected Mutley for breakfast *gunshot* so I'm not going to go through that but I find it revealing that Tochica just dismissed it as tunnel vision instead of addressing it whatsoever.

[Egg]

Umm. I guess my post didn't go through earlier.

Anyway.

My point was missed. It's not so much about whether mutley was worried or not. It was more the fact that he said Bo can't read him and called it a bonus if he were scum. However, Bo hasn't seen Mutley as scum so it seemed like the impression that Bo can't read Mutley came from THIS GAME because Bo had Mutley as town. However, I concede this point after Tochica's post. I still think I have a damn good case outside of that point though.