Mini 1475: War in the Middle East Mafia (Game Over)

[Majiffy]

Ten_Heavens (1): killerjester
Not Voting: Baezu, Ten_Heavens, Titus, RachMarie, Your Troubles Will Cease

With 6 Alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline is Sunday, September 8th at 9 PM Eastern Time.

[Majiffy]

Wow that deadline really crept up didn't it?

3 days and 7 hours as of this post before deadline folks.

[RachMarie]

Salt n Pepper has died. He was

Town.

KJ if you were protected by a one shot BP from being killed, then who killed this player?

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

Salt n Pepper has died. He was

Town.

KJ if you were protected by a one shot BP from being killed, then who killed this player?

Read his post again.

[Titus]

I have COP, BP actions but we have three nights. Did you track me any night?

@Mod: Can you edit the first post?

[killerjester]

No I don't have tracking.

Okay no we're too close to deadline to build up a wagon on me, listen for my claim, and then get

another

wagon up so that we can actually lynch scum today. So a little preemptive but I'm

Saudi Arabia, Town JOAT

. Used my

Cop-shot on waynegg N1

(just a random choice, didn't have much to go on), clearing him, and a

Roleblock on Titus N2

(in an effort to stop the NK), somewhat-clearing her. I do have more shots. I will not claim what they are. If you have suggestions I will accept them in the form of, "If you have N-ability, you should use it on X tonight"

VOTE: runnerman

Will switch back to TH if his lynch becomes viable.

I used a

1x BP last night

. Clearly I wasn't shot.

Still have a Doc shot left

. Any questions?

[Majiffy]

@Mod: Can you edit the first post?

... What do you want me to change?

[Majiffy]

Really, people?

2 days, 8 hours as of this post until deadline.

[Titus]

Ok, sorry KJ. I was gambiting. I don't actually move. I'm a vt as well.

@Mod: The alive and dead are totally off.

[Titus]

Yemen is the flavor claim.

[Titus]

VOTE: Baezu

Let's get some conversation going.

[Majiffy]

I'll fix it during the night phase.

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

So hard to get townreads when no-one is being pro-town.

Titus, that gambit was terrible and transparent. Rach, you have my condolences, but you need to read others' posts more carefully. I actually believe KJ.

If I had to guess the scum team right now it'd be Rach and either Titus or T_H by PoE. I can support either lynch. Rach because the cc thing was bizarre, T_H because of how overly cautious he has been today, and Titus because I never really confirmed a town read on her (but this is mitigated by her decision not to lynch me, which is strange for scum seeing as though I was an easy mislynch and she never gunned for me afterwards so T_H is preference.)

Titus. Why Baezu now?

[Baezu]

So hard to get townreads when no-one is being pro-town.

Titus, that gambit was terrible and transparent. Rach, you have my condolences, but you need to read others' posts more carefully. I actually believe KJ.

If I had to guess the scum team right now it'd be Rach and either Titus or T_H by PoE. I can support either lynch. Rach because the cc thing was bizarre, T_H because of how overly cautious he has been today, and Titus because I never really confirmed a town read on her (but this is mitigated by her decision not to lynch me, which is strange for scum seeing as though I was an easy mislynch and she never gunned for me afterwards so T_H is preference.)

Titus. Why Baezu now?

Agreed.

VOTE: rachmarie

[killerjester]

Oh Rach is definitely scum, I caught her slip. I just wanted to complete the claiming process before bringing this up.

KJ you do realize that there was a NK last night right?

Clearly scumz did not try to kill you... Or are you saying there is a vig or a Sk out there also doing NKs? that seems rather improbable.

How does Rach know scum did not try to kill me? Cos she is scumz. Her confusion is a genuine one that would naturally stem from the thought process, "Why is he claiming that he used a BP? We didn't even shoot him..." She theorizes that it could have been a vig or SK,

but she does not include the possibility that scum attempted the kill

. This is consistent with someone who

already knows

SnP was the scum kill.

gg let's lynch TH tomorrow

VOTE: Rach

[killerjester]

Oh and her flavor claim is BS too I'd say it's likely scum don't have fakeclaims and she was worried about getting CC'd so she used the same name as BRO did

[Titus]

VOTE: RachMarie

I find that persuasive. The flavor thing not so much. If you're at the end, fake claiming is easy enough. (*shoots self in foot*)

@Troubles, I do not gambit very often but I figured it was a no lose situation.

[RachMarie]

Bah that was not a slip KJ you kept going on about how you were not dead, then you went on and said you used a one shot BP, even though there was a clear NK. Logically who else would have killed S and P then? I may have misread what you said, but partly that was because you kept on saying blah blah blah I am alive. So how was I supposed to know that you realized that you were alive because you were not the target duh...

Why do you assume that the scum do not have fake claims? My experience is that in a game with this kind of flavor they do get fake claims.

As for my saying I would have called Bro on his BS for claiming Kuwait, I definitely would have done that had I been here, and I would have called him scum and voted for him. It is a shame my pred flaked like he did.

I am Kuwait and I am VT. We are in MYLO peeps which means if we mislynch we lose.

We may not have any more PRs for all we know due to the partial flips. I do not know for sure. So how is my questioning someone I find a tad fishy make me scum?

[Titus]

How do you know we are in Mylo? It's always been an assumption we are in MYLO.

RachMarie, your claim sucks for the same reason Baezu's sucks. There's no way to verify.

Even if you dismantled KJ's claim but for that one part, you cannot assume the rest of it is all the case. Blah. Bad reasoning.

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

Is there any point in No-Lynching now that we've all claimed? We have no investigative power roles to give us a chance at narrowing it down, if KJ's claim is true he'll be killed tonight anyway, and that won't help anyone narrow down their scum pools apart from Ten_Heavens IIRC. I vote we talk the SHIT out of the next two days and lynch at deadline. Unless you want to risk Scum having a vig power or something that they've been saving for MyLo for the sake of two weeks of more inactivity.

[killerjester]

What do you want to talk about? I think the scum are Rach and TH

[RachMarie]

Only way this is not MYLO is if there is only one scum left.

Based on usual play we probably have 3 scum, and 1 has been lynched.

Do you really want to risk town losing on the chance that there is only one more scum left? I don't.


VOTE: No Lynch

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

Do you really want to risk town losing on the chance that there is only one more scum left? I don't.


VOTE: No Lynch

Fallacies.

Fallacies everywhere.

Why does no lynching guarantee a Town win?

[RachMarie]

it does not guarantee a town win, but it guarantees that town does not lose.

MYLO is the time when a NL is optimal.

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

but it guarantees that town does not lose.

Yet.

What do we gain from putting off the decision apart from one less player?