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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:06 pm

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BM, the so scum just jumped on. See last 2 votes on Canuckle.
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:08 pm

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Canucklehead is really not the play guys, he's probably town.

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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:13 am

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Canucklehead is really not the play guys, he's probably town.

BM on the other hand..
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:14 am

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See shadow, I fixed that for you
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:39 am

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Battle Mage is an easy target and everyone on his wagon or pushing his wagon should be under suspicion.
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:16 am

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lol wow you are finding these games tough.
I consider this the 1 game in which no1 should accuse me of being scum-because it is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE.
I came into this game as a replacement after being lynched before, and coming up town. If i remember rightly, my death led to the lynching of a Mafia Member.
Now you think that i have come back as scum? Are you crazy!?
After i worked damn hard as a protown player in this game, there is absolutely NO WAY i would come back as scum. Not only that, but the mod wouldnt allow it in the first place.
Anyone who thinks i am scum based on my posts, should take a quick look at logic. Would the mod really let a dead protown player replace into the role of scum?
It would undermine the whole game, so the answer is no.
Whatever my role is, you can be damn sure its protown.
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Panzerjager wrote:Canucklehead is really not the play guys, he's probably town.

BM on the other hand..
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Battle Mage wrote:lol wow you are finding these games tough.
I consider this the 1 game in which no1 should accuse me of being scum-because it is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE.
I came into this game as a replacement after being lynched before, and coming up town. If i remember rightly, my death led to the lynching of a Mafia Member.
Now you think that i have come back as scum? Are you crazy!?
After i worked damn hard as a protown player in this game, there is absolutely NO WAY i would come back as scum. Not only that, but the mod wouldnt allow it in the first place.
Anyone who thinks i am scum based on my posts, should take a quick look at logic. Would the mod really let a dead protown player replace into the role of scum?
It would undermine the whole game, so the answer is no.
Whatever my role is, you can be damn sure its protown.
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Panzerjager wrote:Canucklehead is really not the play guys, he's probably town.

BM on the other hand..
Wrong. So. Freaking. Wrong.
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:46 am

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Battle Mage wrote:lol wow you are finding these games tough.
I consider this the 1 game in which no1 should accuse me of being scum-because it is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE.
I came into this game as a replacement after being lynched before, and coming up town. If i remember rightly, my death led to the lynching of a Mafia Member.
Now you think that i have come back as scum? Are you crazy!?
After i worked damn hard as a protown player in this game, there is absolutely NO WAY i would come back as scum. Not only that, but the mod wouldnt allow it in the first place.
Anyone who thinks i am scum based on my posts, should take a quick look at logic. Would the mod really let a dead protown player replace into the role of scum?
It would undermine the whole game, so the answer is no.
Whatever my role is, you can be damn sure its protown.
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Panzerjager wrote:Canucklehead is really not the play guys, he's probably town.

BM on the other hand..
I don't see any reason why a dead vanilla townie could not come back as scum. It's not like you have any information crucial to the success of the mafia.

That being said, I believe you.
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:45 am

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So you're saying yourself that it's possible that BM is scum.

Then you turn around and say that the people who think he is are the ones to suspect? BM has been scummy as hell since his return, and he's hiding under the WIFOM and crap logic of "the mod wouldn't do that" as his excuse, and being defended solely because he's an "opportunistic lynch".
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:00 am

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TheJiveMachine wrote:So you're saying yourself that it's possible that BM is scum.

Then you turn around and say that the people who think he is are the ones to suspect? BM has been scummy as hell since his return, and he's hiding under the WIFOM and crap logic of "the mod wouldn't do that" as his excuse, and being defended solely because he's an "opportunistic lynch".
Yes, I think his logic is poor. But Battle Mage, like myself in some ways, is a player who doesn't yet completely understand the nuances of what is scummy behavior and what isn't. You say that his defense seems scummy. I say that it's protown because it's the most obvious defense for a person who has a below average capacity for guile and deception. I'm sure that at some point BM will be mafia in a game, but in that game he will probably be the least scummy, most helpful player you've ever seen. But I'm almost certain that he's not now, based on the content of his posts.

I'm not saying that we absolutely should not lynch him. I'm saying that
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:00 am

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I think you guys are failing to see the logic here. Either that, or i cant see your 'logic'.
Please explain why the Mod would revive me as scum. Please also explain why i would accept such a role, because the fact is, i wouldnt.
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TheJiveMachine wrote:So you're saying yourself that it's possible that BM is scum.

Then you turn around and say that the people who think he is are the ones to suspect? BM has been scummy as hell since his return, and he's hiding under the WIFOM and crap logic of "the mod wouldn't do that" as his excuse, and being defended solely because he's an "opportunistic lynch".
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:04 am

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Battle Mage wrote:I think you guys are failing to see the logic here. Either that, or i cant see your 'logic'.
Please explain why the Mod would revive me as scum. Please also explain why i would accept such a role, because the fact is, i wouldnt.
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TheJiveMachine wrote:So you're saying yourself that it's possible that BM is scum.

Then you turn around and say that the people who think he is are the ones to suspect? BM has been scummy as hell since his return, and he's hiding under the WIFOM and crap logic of "the mod wouldn't do that" as his excuse, and being defended solely because he's an "opportunistic lynch".
1) We don't know that you would not accept such a role. All we have is your word, and this game is based on lies.

2) You lived and died as a vanilla townie. That would give you no special information about the alignment of other players in the game or their roles.

Ergo, you could easily replace into the game as scum.
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:01 am

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I fully believe he is scum in this game and I fully believe that BM plays the same. Not because he doesn't have a tolerence for guile but just because he is bad at mafia. Simply bad, therefore he is gonna act scummy in every game. And i feel the scumminess in this one along with the complete list of logical fallacies that his defense is based on is completely lynch worthy. Plus we are certain you are scum, well most of us. So
Unvote, Vote: BM
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:51 am

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rofl. I love the way in which every post you make speaks for everybody.
Personally however, id like to hear from the protown players, to see their opinions on the game. TCS makes a good point, but at the end of the day this game is about trust. If there is anyone here who knows me atall, they will know that i would never allow myself to be in such a scenario where i had to play against something that i had worked so enthusiastically for.
If you dont believe that, i guess u can lynch me, but i still maintain it is pretty ridiculous. Any protown players who lynch me are going to get a finger of shame at the end of the game. :P
Also, Panzer, i think you are getting 'bad Mafia player', confused with 'Mafia player who is way out of my league'. Im afraid the fact that you cant tell the difference between scum and town in a player is serious weakness of yours in this game.
It also means that few people will take u seriously.
Anyway, other than Panzer, what exactly is the case against me?
Im a bit lost in the ridiculum of it.... :roll:




Panzerjager wrote:I fully believe he is scum in this game and I fully believe that BM plays the same. Not because he doesn't have a tolerence for guile but just because he is bad at mafia. Simply bad, therefore he is gonna act scummy in every game. And i feel the scumminess in this one along with the complete list of logical fallacies that his defense is based on is completely lynch worthy. Plus we are certain you are scum, well most of us. So
Unvote, Vote: BM
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:01 am

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Battle Mage wrote:rofl. I love the way in which every post you make speaks for everybody.
Semantics.
Battle Mage wrote:Personally however, id like to hear from the protown players, to see their opinions on the game. TCS makes a good point, but at the end of the day this game is about trust. If there is anyone here who knows me atall, they will know that i would never allow myself to be in such a scenario where i had to play against something that i had worked so enthusiastically for.
Not so sure "pro-town" and "TCS" should be used in the same paragraph ATM.
Battle Mage wrote:If you dont believe that, i guess u can lynch me, but i still maintain it is pretty ridiculous. Any protown players who lynch me are going to get a finger of shame at the end of the game. :P
Yes, because the claim "Only townie who can win the game" worked
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Battle Mage wrote:Also, Panzer, i think you are getting 'bad Mafia player', confused with 'Mafia player who is way out of my league'. Im afraid the fact that you cant tell the difference between scum and town in a player is serious weakness of yours in this game.
It also means that few people will take u seriously.
Anyway, other than Panzer, what exactly is the case against me?
Im a bit lost in the ridiculum of it.... :roll:
You'd be able to be a better player if you accepted that you aren't the greatest thing to ever grace the game of Mafia.

That being said, I don't think BM is the play for today. livingod is.
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:05 am

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i didnt claim i was 'only townie who can win the game'. i said that i was so obviously town, its pretty ridiculous that im going to get lynched so early.



JDodge wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:rofl. I love the way in which every post you make speaks for everybody.
Semantics.
Battle Mage wrote:Personally however, id like to hear from the protown players, to see their opinions on the game. TCS makes a good point, but at the end of the day this game is about trust. If there is anyone here who knows me atall, they will know that i would never allow myself to be in such a scenario where i had to play against something that i had worked so enthusiastically for.
Not so sure "pro-town" and "TCS" should be used in the same paragraph ATM.
Battle Mage wrote:If you dont believe that, i guess u can lynch me, but i still maintain it is pretty ridiculous. Any protown players who lynch me are going to get a finger of shame at the end of the game. :P
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Battle Mage wrote:Also, Panzer, i think you are getting 'bad Mafia player', confused with 'Mafia player who is way out of my league'. Im afraid the fact that you cant tell the difference between scum and town in a player is serious weakness of yours in this game.
It also means that few people will take u seriously.
Anyway, other than Panzer, what exactly is the case against me?
Im a bit lost in the ridiculum of it.... :roll:
You'd be able to be a better player if you accepted that you aren't the greatest thing to ever grace the game of Mafia.

That being said, I don't think BM is the play for today. livingod is.
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:08 am

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Battle Mage wrote:i didnt claim i was 'only townie who can win the game'. i said that i was so obviously town, its pretty ridiculous that im going to get lynched so early.
One cannot claim themselves to be obviously town. Mafia don't come out and say "I'm scum, lynch me".
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:17 am

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no, but for once i have reasonable evidence.


JDodge wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:i didnt claim i was 'only townie who can win the game'. i said that i was so obviously town, its pretty ridiculous that im going to get lynched so early.
One cannot claim themselves to be obviously town. Mafia don't come out and say "I'm scum, lynch me".
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:18 am

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Panzerjager wrote:I fully believe he is scum in this game and I fully believe that BM plays the same. Not because he doesn't have a tolerence for guile but just because he is bad at mafia. Simply bad, therefore he is gonna act scummy in every game. And i feel the scumminess in this one along with the complete list of logical fallacies that his defense is based on is completely lynch worthy. Plus we are certain you are scum, well most of us. So
Unvote, Vote: BM
Basing your vote in part on my supposed alignment is ridiculous. It makes 1,000,000 times more sense to lynch a better target today, and then wait until my alignment is confirmed tonight before you make my "scumminess" part of your argument.

Battle Mage is town because his defense is one a noob townie would make, not a noob scum. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong... but we have better candidates today.
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:27 am

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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Panzerjager wrote:I fully believe he is scum in this game and I fully believe that BM plays the same. Not because he doesn't have a tolerence for guile but just because he is bad at mafia. Simply bad, therefore he is gonna act scummy in every game. And i feel the scumminess in this one along with the complete list of logical fallacies that his defense is based on is completely lynch worthy. Plus we are certain you are scum, well most of us. So
Unvote, Vote: BM
Basing your vote in part on my supposed alignment is ridiculous. It makes 1,000,000 times more sense to lynch a better target today, and then wait until my alignment is confirmed tonight before you make my "scumminess" part of your argument.

Battle Mage is town because his defense is one a noob townie would make, not a noob scum. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong... but we have better candidates today.
I disagree that he's cleared. He may seem stupid, but he's smarter than he seems.

I agree that we have better candidates.
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:48 pm

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You being out of my league is terrible. I have never seen you guess scum right btw. I'm done attacking you on a personal level. Your posting speaks for me.
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:20 pm

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lol stop contradicting yourself. In fact, i have caught scum on several occassions-however u probably havent been awake to notice.
Just try and concentrate on the game at hand, and maybe YOU will have more success. :)


Panzerjager wrote:You being out of my league is terrible. I have never seen you guess scum right btw. I'm done attacking you on a personal level. Your posting speaks for me.
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:37 am

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i have caught scum on several occassions
Um... when?
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:44 am

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maybe in games still going on.
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:40 am

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