Mini 1484 - Pick Your Partners (Game Over)

[Egg]

I don't see the issue with TSO's comment about at least one scum in drdo/haschel. The only point here is if you are saying it was a soft bus on drdo which would make him mafia and not today's lynch. This means nothing from a wolf because his only buddy would be pj in this case who was already dead at the time.

Tochica, you say you don't like how people seem to be coasting and cheering on the mutley wagon. You specifically say I'm the only one excluded from that, so that leaves TSO, Nat, and Titus. Mafia wouldn't want the wolf lynched because that's a town win as long as masons are alive. So that only leaves two possibilites if you have a valid point. The real wolf is on the wagon OR mafia are confident that mutley isn't wolf. In the first scenario, two of the three players who are doing what you have a problem with are town. Why is only one scum doing what two town are doing in this scenario? The second, why would a theoretical TSO/Nat, TSO/Titus, or Titus/Nat team be so sure mutley is town? If you think there is only one mafia member who is so sure on that, we are back in the exact same spot as the first scenario, but only finding mafia rather than wolf. So if you want TSO lynched for his actions on the Mutley wagon, you have to explain why Titus and Nat are town acting the same way. What sets TSO apart from them? After that, why is he wolf rather than mafia?

Haschel, your post after catching up sounds like "TSO needs to be lynched. TheGar is scum, but can't be mafia so must be wolf". In this case, TheGar would clearly be your choice for a lynch so I'm sure that's not what you actually meant. Can you expand on your thoughts on TSO and TheGar to clear that up for me?

Haschel, it's entirely possible that Mutley could have decided to self hammer after Voided's post. However, if he's wolf, a self hammer doesn't help him. It only makes sense if he is mafia because being lynched himself gives his partner a better chance to win than if the wolf is lynched. TSO's unvote is fine, especially because Voided asked for an unvote in order to catch up.

643 might actually be a good point if mutley isn't wolf. More from Nat than Voided probably.

[T S O]

If TSO flips mafia - Voided is partner

look at titus unless mason cleared once TSO is gone.

Everyone who suspects me is scum today, despite you not implicating ONE person for the last 2 days.

[T S O]

Sorry, changed from first-person to third-person. ;_;

[Haschel Cedricson]

Haschel, your post after catching up sounds like "TSO needs to be lynched. TheGar is scum, but can't be mafia so must be wolf". In this case, TheGar would clearly be your choice for a lynch so I'm sure that's not what you actually meant. Can you expand on your thoughts on TSO and TheGar to clear that up for me?

No, I don't think that TheGarantula is the werewolf. TSO is the werewolf. I just noticed something that appeared to be suspicious. I doubt that TheGarantula is Mafia because his interactions with DrDoLittle don't feel like bussing, so I'm probably jumping at straws, but I figured he deserved a closer look on the grounds that he and Voided were the only players not voting for anybody.

[T S O]

Haschel, I want to hear what your reasons are.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Mutleyddmc (3): Titus, Egg, Natirasha
T S O (3): Haschel Cedricson, Tochica, Mutleyddmc

Not voting (3): Voidedmafia, TheGarantula, T S O

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is September 18th, 9 p.m. CEST.

[Voidedmafia]

Do these interactions look scum-scum to you?

Could be.

Regardless, I can't believe you guys are actually following the Mutley wagon. This guy has hard lurked the whole game while Varsoon was alive, who Mutley even admits can read him. It makes total sense.

While this is a somewhat salient point if true, why wouldn't mutley-WW get Varsoon killed N1 instead of N2?

If you are wolf, I'm sure you had a good reason for killing Bo N1. Maybe it outweighed your reasons for killing varsoon immediately, especially if he was going to write off your lurking as "normal". Why waste the bullet N1 when you can get away with another day of lurking?

This both assuages and deepens my feelings on Muttley-WW to the point that it remains the same. Assuages because the lack of a Varsoon kill N1 would tend to point me toward Muttley-mafia/Town and not muttley-WW. But at the same time, it introduces the worry that Muttley-WW felt he managed to skate by D1, but was either worried of Varsoon catching onto him or that his luck was running out and he needed to get rid of Varsoon before the former happened.

But then, it's also possibly that Muttley is mafia, and WAS wanting a Varsoon kill N1 but didn't have any direct control over who was killed and makes the N2 kill of Varsoon a lucky break. I still get the feeling that his kill was partially reactionary to him getting DrD to self-vote due to his slip, though.

DING DING DING DING DING

Mutley appears to have transformed into a glorious town butterfly and everybody should feel bad about being on his wagon.

...What?

Well, Haschel has made a great post on how we can't be scum together. You're still scum, Haschel.

Unless you mean you're mafia and he's wolf or something, why say this?

I'd never kill Bo. I love Bo.

Then theres the added bonus he can't read me so I'd keep him around for ever to talk with.

So you were rooting for Varsoon to be killed as mafia?

(this is a little more stream of consciousness kind of post since I feel like it'd take too long to do more thorough stuff atm. Still plan to read through TSO.)

[Egg]

Haschel, so you saw something about TheGar that looked scummy, but concluded he isn't scum because he isn't mafia and TSO is wolf, correct? I just want to fully understand your TheGar stance here.

[Voidedmafia]

muttley's stream of posting after Egg's meta argument feels like scum desperation to me.

Egg already dissected Mutley for breakfast *gunshot* so I'm not going to go through that but I find it revealing that Tochica just dismissed it as tunnel vision instead of addressing it whatsoever.

...She addressed the most recent addition to the case. I fail to see what you're getting at here.

Even if egg's addition isn't entirely correct it still feels very town motivated.

The fact I didnt bus is probably an indicator that I am not werewolf

Instead of bussing you make a goddamn No-lynch wagon. Reeks of distancing rather than a lack of bussing.

You're the savior we deserve, Voidedmafia.

You're too kind.

The thing that stood out from Mutley was the post where he said he wasn't the werewolf because he likely would have bussed. I pulled up his ISO and tried to do a find "bus" to find the post. This alerted me that every other post said "bus". It seems far too likely an occurance for that to be town.

I'm not seeing what the point of this was.

I don't believe at all TSO thought Mutley may have self hammered now, this unvote looks obliging.

...your point?

I've at least read through the thread for general reads. Egg is my strongest townread, followed by Nati. Toch is a weaker townread, and HC and Titus are generally null. TSO is slightly a tossup (certainly not town at the moment), but I do feel confident that Muttley is scum, probly WW.

Vote: Muttley

[Mutleyddmc]

The analysis and reasoning in this game are terribad.

TSO and voided are mafia

Titus or nati for WW

If any of you did any kind of real Analysis you'd realise I am so not the WW.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Mutleyddmc (4): Titus, Egg, Natirasha, Voidedmafia

T S O (3): Haschel Cedricson, Tochica, Mutleyddmc

Not voting (2): TheGarantula, T S O

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is September 18th, 9 p.m. CEST.

[Egg]

I'm assuming TSO will hammer so let me throw a few things out there in case I end up dead tonight, which obviously would make Mutley not wolf if that happens.

Best pick for Wolf:
Titus

Best pick(s) for mafia (1-2 depending on if Mutley is one):
Void
Haschel

I also have had town reads on Nat and Tochica for pretty much this whole game but a few things have made my gut cringe on them so maybe look into them a little.

I have TheGar as town although it's still possible he's mafia so..

TSO is obvtown but I know I'm in the minority there.

I think that everyone.

[T S O]

Hammer? Hammer.

Vote: Mutleyddmc

Unless someone has infiltrated the Townbloc, he's scum. Wolfff.

Get Tochica tomorrow.

[Voidedmafia]

Why Titus for wolf, Egg, if that's not what Muttley flips?

P-Edit: No, Tochica shouldn't be our next priority. Why do you sound like you're gonna die tonight?

[T S O]

Perhaps because I feel I've accurately called scum all game and they know I'll push their lynches through tomorrow.

But Egg is seen as Town and we share reads. It'll probably be him.

[T S O]

Egg is so Town I'm actually getting quite paranoid of him being scum though. The rest of the playerlist seems the same.

[TheGarantula]

T S O, if think Mutley is wolf, how could you die tonight?

[TheGarantula]

*if you think

[T S O]

Hey. Worst case scenario, my people. wcs.

[T S O]

Voided, re. 571, Haschel made a post proving we're not scum together. I'm Town, he's Mafia.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Mutleyddmc (5): Titus, Egg, Natirasha, Voidedmafia, T S O

T S O (3): Haschel Cedricson, Tochica, Mutleyddmc

Not voting (1): TheGarantula

Mutleyddmc,

Vanilla Townie

, has been lynched Day 3.

It is now Night 3. Deadline is September 13th, 11 p.m. CEST.

[IceGuy]

Egg,

Mason

, has been killed Night 3.

Vote Count

Not voting (7): Haschel Cedricson, Titus, Guy_Named_Riggs, T S O, Tochica, TheGarantula, Natirasha

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

It is now Day 4. Deadline is October 4th/Octpber 5th, midnight CEST.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Vote: T S O

THIRD TIME'S THE CHARM

[Haschel Cedricson]

Wait.

Unvote

.

[Natirasha]

Damn. Ill do my best to make you proud, Egg.

We need to seriously find the wolf today. We'll be able to still have one confirmed town and a mislynch.

I've been putting this game off, time to stop doing that.