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Post Post #3625 (ISO) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:00 pm

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The format seems very slow, and initially without having played it at all, to me blue looks like the strongest color by a fair margin. And black looks quite bad. Need to play a bit before I can ever be sure though.
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Post Post #3626 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:42 am

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this format is gonna kickass.
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Post Post #3627 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:12 am

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It has the potential to be very ROE-ey, I think. Which would be sweet. ROE was sweet. It also has the ability to be very bomb driven and swingy, which would suck.

I don't know how you can say how good its going to be without playing it.
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Post Post #3628 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:28 am

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I meant the standard enviroment looks pretty deep and different. There aren't that many "well you HAVE to play this card" inclusions to create an entire deck, and you can't just replace rotating cards with new ones and keep a deck (besides mono R prob)
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Post Post #3629 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:59 am

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Testing out a BW midrange list on Cockatrice today since the THS pack is out.
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Post Post #3630 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:06 am

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Man, this deck's curve is awesome
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Post Post #3631 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:23 am

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Post Post #3632 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:43 am

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I really like the scry lands. They're not bonkers or anything but when you're going to need dual fixing, they're just really useful guildgates. Scry is so much fun, I'm glad it's back. Also, this deck is insanely good with the hand destruction it has, and then if anything gets through, you just Doom Blade or Ultimate Price or Hero's Downfall it. Erebos is pretty good here, especially in mirror-ish matches. The "opponents can't gain life" effect has been extremely relevant, although I've never gotten Erebos online as an actual creature, I'm always at like four devotion.
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Post Post #3633 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:50 am

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Blue hasn't particularly caught my eye thus far. What makes you think it looks good in theros limited?
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Post Post #3634 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:19 am

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I thought red would be the strongest color. It has tons of removal/damage, early game bombs, and late game bombs. It has everything. Black also looks pretty strong.
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Post Post #3635 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:07 pm

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In post 3628, Fate wrote:I meant the standard enviroment looks pretty deep and different. There aren't that many "well you HAVE to play this card" inclusions to create an entire deck, and you can't just replace rotating cards with new ones and keep a deck (besides mono R prob)
I'm pretty sure chamber (as he usually is) was talking about limited, so it wasn't clear that you were talking about the standard environment.
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Post Post #3636 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:11 pm

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In post 3634, xRECKONERx wrote:I thought red would be the strongest color. It has tons of removal/damage, early game bombs, and late game bombs. It has everything. Black also looks pretty strong.
The strength of a color in a format has very little to do with the bombs, as every color has cards that will win the game on their own, and because you are not likely to see then in your given limited deck. What determines the strength of colors in limited is the relative strength of commons and to a slightly lesser extent, uncommons, since these are the cards draft and sealed decks can count on having 90% of the time.

Blue isn't better than green in m14 because Jace is better than primeval bounty. It is better than green because like 5 of the 10 best commons in the set are blue, and probably 5 of the top uncommons as well.
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Post Post #3637 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:02 pm

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doing practice THS drafts with gamma wheeeeeee
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Post Post #3638 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:37 pm

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2 peopple draft

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Post Post #3639 (ISO) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:38 pm

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thats the first deck yuo brew reck

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Post Post #3640 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:19 am

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In post 3634, xRECKONERx wrote:I thought red would be the strongest color. It has tons of removal/damage, early game bombs, and late game bombs. It has everything. Black also looks pretty strong.
I'm willing to admit that I'm not entirely sure without playing, ever. But black looked like by far the worst color to me. probably something like blue>>white>green>red>>black. But I'm way less certain on the middle colors. Black does have what I think is the best common though, so there is that.
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Post Post #3641 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:21 am

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I was thinking about it more, and the 3 mana 2/2 flier with bestow for 5 in blue is probably less of a bomb common than I was thinking. That enchantment removal is likely main deckable, and that there is an instant in both white and green at common to deal with enchantments, likely means that you can get blown out if you aren't careful. Still obviously a good card though.
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Post Post #3642 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:38 am

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Enchantment removal is 100% main deckable in this limited format, it kills a bunch of threats.
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Post Post #3643 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:03 am

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In post 3642, xRECKONERx wrote:Enchantment removal is 100% main deckable in this limited format, it kills a bunch of threats.
It likely maindeckable like artifact D was in SOM, which is to say, the first piece is great, but you probably only want like 1-2 in your deck.
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Post Post #3644 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:35 pm

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Yeah, I don't think its going to be like original mirrodin where shatter was a defensible first pick.
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Post Post #3645 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:42 pm

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So the GP detroit top 8.

Jund, Jund, Jund, redless jund, redless jund, Jund with white, pod, affinity.

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Post Post #3646 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:38 pm

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Fissure and post banned in pauper. Might actually make that format playable again.
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Post Post #3647 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:40 pm

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Still not taking action against Mono-U control, I see.
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Post Post #3648 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:10 pm

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In post 3647, Sudo_Nym wrote:Still not taking action against Mono-U control, I see.
I expect a lot of Delver v B/x control v Affinity in the near future. Affinity's probably better than Stompy now because getting out of Spinning Darkness/Disfigure range is key.
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Post Post #3649 (ISO) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:15 pm

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At Pauper World Headquarters:
"Mono-U Delver is dominating the format! It has amazing matchups against everything! What shall we do?"
"Ban Infect, Storm, and Cloudpost! That should resolve the issue."
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