Planet: MafiaScum 2 - Winter 2018

[Lord Mhork]

No choice but to accept? Hardly. You took secret information channels to smuggle a wanted fugitive past us to do private investigation in a highly sensitive area.

While the Holy Empire is more than

grateful

that Toposian confidence has returned, the fact of the matter remains that what occurred was grossly unnecessary, deceitful, and potentially very harmful to both the Holy Empire and the world at large. Ghaor should have been brought to our custody immediately once Arrakis said they had him, rather than hiding behind 'deal consideration' to smuggle him around the world.

We are not turning first to military means. We tried and have been continuing to try diplomacy, however we grow weary of Arrakis' lies. Arrakis officials have been promising custody for three long months. Three months in which we had to worry about Ghaor escaping or dying or divulging key information. Do not say we have not tried peace.

And the 4 billion marcs is not for military retaliation. We have been warning about this financing for a very long time now. The fact remains that Maestro Lux has not answered his grossly oversized military and many nations are now turning to military research. In addition, Arrakis' response is a 5B military investment. Evidently the world is no longer at peace and we must arm ourselves.

Again we have been seeking diplomatic channels for the past 3 months. The article was set to release to the public only mere moments before we received word that Ghaor was in Topos, so there was a quick edit. We hoped that if Arrakis were forced to answer to the world stage about his deceit, he would finally return to the Holy Empire custody over this fugitive. We apologize for assuming the worst in our ally, as we have had a long history without violent conflict, however these are troubling times and His Holiness only seeks the best for His people and the peace fo the world.

~Ambassador Tor'Kin, Face to the World

[JasonWazza]

Klazam did it really take interrogating him for you to realize that?

I have no clue what the fuck is going on but here is what i have:
Some was Mhorkish agent was in Arrakis
This Mhorkish agent was then trying to really poorly cause a revolt in Arraki, which bears no fucking gain to Mhork, and this is fucking clear.
You then capture this agent, and decide that instead of interogating himself, or informing everyone you have him, or even just giving him back to Mhork to be tried, you instead send him to Topos to have him interogated.

SERIOUSLY ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING TWATS?

a) it was obvious the agent wasn't actting in behalf of Mhork, in fact, if i had to guess, it's more likely that Arrakis itself found the agent and bribed him to do that.
b) Topo's has the agent when really, he should have nothing to fucking do with it, neither of you should have contacted each other regarding this matter, and i have to say shame on the fucking both of you.
c) Topo's hasn't even openly stated after his interrogation's WHO actually made the agent do the crime, which makes me even more sure that it is in fact Arrakis.

So here is what is going to happen.

Mhork/Defender de-militarize, you don't need 4/5 Billion of units, anything more then 2 billion is over the fucking top.
Klazam, tell EVERYONE who the agent said made him do what he did.

[Lord Mhork]

The Holy Empire, as we have stated to the Silverlands, does not feel safe with the enmity around us, especially from the secretive Maeristo. He suddenly raised 90.000 reservists without warning, and we would like a decent contingent to discourage any unwise aggressive actions.

Plus I'm really not sure how many 5B will get me, but I think it's enough so that I will not have to worry for awhile. I really don't want to have to waste funds on military expenses anyway.

~Ambassador Tor'Kin, Face to the World

[D3f3nd3r]

Fine.

Halve military spending

Also, I did indeed interrogate him. If you want information from this interrogation, ask me what you want, and you shall receive.

You spent 4B, I spent 5B.

[Klazam]

Very well. the agent said that his direct officer Inquisitor-Major Siple Rivet was the one who handed him his orders. Topos would like to make a public request for this man to be arrested and questioned.

Regarding Arrakis involvement, this is rather doubtful, because Ghaor also told us that he supplied the same information to Arrakis, but that Arrakis tortured him for this information, and the signs of it is very clear.

Regarding to the reason why Topos was involved at all- we have a direct border with Mhork, and it was alarming that a neighbor might be a part of this vile deed. it was voted that the truth must come to light by whatever channels it took.

Satisfied?

High Chancellor Klazam

[D3f3nd3r]

I am able to agree with the first two paragraphs. While torture was a last resort, we felt it was necessary.

[Lord Mhork]

We want our fugitive.

~Ambassador Tor'Kin, Face to the World

PEDIT:
What?! They tortured Markman Ghaor? Are you sure about this, High Chancellor? Is torture not a breach of international etiquette?

[D3f3nd3r]

We=I

Arrakis needs to have only one leader so I don't get my pronouns confused.

[Klazam]

I do not believe that we have any international laws regarding that, Ambassador, and neither do Topos believe that such a law should be enacted. Topos feels it is better for the world of each country were to govern itself as it would.

High Chancellor Klazam

[Lord Mhork]

It's not a matter of domestic policy. He tortured a fugitive that wasn't his.

~Ambassador Tor'Kin, Face to the World

[Klazam]

That's between Mhork and Arrakis.

In the Council of the People's opinion, the criminal was caught for a crime on Arrakis soil, against Arrakis, so his international citizen status shouldn't grant him any privileges.

High Chancellor Klazam

[Lord Mhork]

Not being tortured is not a privilege. It's a matter of fundamental human decency. Honestly we should have a law on this matter or some sort of agreement. We need a basic codified rule of ethics for how to handle these incidents.

~Ambassador Tor'Kin, Face to the World

[JasonWazza]

Mhork, if Maestro mobilizes on you, i will give you my word you will receive support from me.

Klazam, given you haven't gotten a leader name, how are you so certain that this man isn't from Mhork's country?

Your doubt seems to easily swayed on this matter.

Also did you, or did you not TORTURE him yourself to get this info?

Defender, why did you torture and interogate someone if you planned on giving them to Topo's?

And on top of that, why did you give him to Topo's in the first place?

[D3f3nd3r]

Topos asked to interrogate the man, and I did not see any downside.

And I tortured and interrogated him because I obviously want information. In this situation, who wouldn't?

[D3f3nd3r]

Topos asked to interrogate the man, and I did not see any downside.

And I tortured and interrogated him because I obviously want information. In this situation, who wouldn't?

When my nation may have a significant issue, I feel a need to take these measures.

[Klazam]

As I said, between Mhork and Arrakis.

Topos will not be signing any international laws.

Jason- My investigation team specifically told me that the Marksman Ghaor did not believe Lord Mhork had anything to do with his orders. He indicated it was directly from his immediate superior. No, Topos did not torture the man to get this information.

High Chancellor Klazam

[JasonWazza]

Also @everyone, i would like to suggest you have your airport/whatever security have the name Siple Rivet on a no fly list, i doubt they are dumb enough to have this not happen but that isn't the concern.

Defender/Klazam, did the criminal say WHERE he got these orders from?

P-Edit (863): Did you interrogate him before torturing him? >.>

Also how did Topo's know you have him?

You all realize this would have been much easier if this was made public at the start right?

P-Edit: (865): then a) how can you believe that given it's his immediate superior that he isn't a Mhorkish troop?
b) how can you believe any of this is the truth rather then something just made up by defender?

And if it's between them two WHY THE FUCK DID YOU GET INVOLVED?

[chesskid3]

Invite all world leaders who are not currently arguing to an orgy in Lord Chesskid's harem

[SalmonellaDreams]

The council accepts.

[Lord Mhork]

Who

would

torture someone rather than giving him to the proper authorities. You had no right to torture Markman Ghaor. It's, quite frankly, disgusting and despicable of you. Also we feel it's time for you to hand him over.

~Ambassador Tor'Kin, Face to the World

[D3f3nd3r]

The criminal gave a name. Klazam stated this name earlier, Siple Rivet. I received information that Rivet was a middle-ranked officer, and that Rivet might (or might not) have informed Mhork authorities to what he was doing.

I interrogated him first, to no avail. When this failed, I tried torture, which worked.

I told Topos, as well as everybody else who asked in page 28 (chesskid), when he asked in the thread.

P-Edit: At this stage of the game, I'd need to know what you plan on doing to him.

[chesskid3]

I told Topos, as well as everybody else who asked in page 28 (chesskid), when he asked in the thread.

I will confirm this

I asked him if I could assassinate him for lots of drama and he said no
and then I no longer cared.

[Lord Mhork]

No. No you really don't need to know. In fact I would say that once you had over Markman--which you

are

going to do--Mhorkish involvement with the nation of Arrakis will cease. An interesting end to a very generous relationship thusfar, but it seems that you were false believers. We have no further interest in pursuing a relationship here.

~Ambassador Tor'Kin, Face to the World

[Bowser]

[chesskid3]

Bowser you want in the orgy?