Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

[Majiffy]

Oh so "poke him with a stick" is why I have a wagon on me.

Fucking dolts.

no lynch is like the worst idea ever. i'd prefer a possibility of killing scum. so lets try hard to find them. but even if someone dies who isn't scum as long as its not a PR It helps town up the odds.

but even if someone dies who isn't scum as long as its not a PR It helps town up the odds.

but even if someone dies who isn't scum It helps town up the odds.

but even if someone dies who isn't scum It helps

if someone dies who isn't scum It helps

It helps

You are legitimately a fucking moron, aren't you?

This is the shittest reason for voting someone I've ever read.

VOTE: waynegg

Dumb doesn't mean scum. Besides, Levi actually looks kinda scummy.

Majiffy, Yrealz, Kise, dopog get in here and post plz

woteva, woteva, i do wot i want!

Have we left RVS yet? And by that, I mean are we done squabbling about bullshit regarding the essentially-useless-until-near-LYLO RVS votes and wagons?

It should be noted that when I made this post, you still hadn't gotten out of aforementioned stage.

whats with the insistence by bad players to not read the thread, ask if were out of rvs yet and refuse to participate until satisfied that we in fact are?

SMD.

What have I done that is scummy?

This.

You're a better player than this, Nacho.

Also why do you feel like you're playing ScumLurkCho rather than TownAsFuckCho?

1) its making you post, even if its not the cause and you were going to post anyway, at least you are which works for me.
2) it doesn't stop you from being scum even if its a shitty reason.
3) why would I check ALL your posts? just because you decrease in every game doesn't necessarily mean much. =P oh you are busy? good for you, so am I. I was unaware, so all I see is not posting. =P i still try to stay updated and post as much as I can. Claim V/LA or whatnot. first i am aware you were busy.
4) i know why i'm voting you, or was voting you UNVOTE: I'm kind of satisfied now as long as more posts comes out of you. =)
5) lack of content IS and most DEFINITELY can be a scum read or interpreted as one. =P

1) No, my having free time is why I'm posting.
2) It also doesn't make me scum, and potentially makes others scum for said shitty reasons.
3) All you have to do is click my name and see pretty easily that I've made all of about 10 posts in the past week or so. Also the rest of your snarky response reads an awful lot like scum trying to play off their shitty deflection as a not so shitty deflection.
4) Lol. Just lol.
5) ... No. No it can't. If you think it can, you should go back to EM. That's about the only place that is a relevant tell.

When will you be caught up then? Because first you express pleasure that the game isn't moving at breakneck speed, and then you say you haven't made enough posts (and in fact that the game's not far enough in) to be called scummy yet. Are we going to crucify those who *have* posted content? Or are we going to wagon up on those who haven't?

Well hey, I don't know if you're scummy or not but this is a decent way to find out.

I would have probably replaced out if this game was approaching 20 pages by now. This is the first I've been able to make a post not on my phone in this thread.

I don't think I'll ever utter the phrase "I haven't made enough posts". What I

did

say is that lack of content in 3 posts by page 11 isn't scummy, and is in fact a scummy (or at least dummy) reason to be voting someone.

I think you should be lynching based on scummy behavior, not based on amount or frequency of content. Doing otherwise is just bad play.

What have you found out?

[Majiffy]

Town
{

kanye, wayne, Beli, Nati,

Kalimar, Pere, Matias, talah}

Scum
{

DeasVail,

Mastin,

Levi, pieguyn,

Empking, Nacho

}

Bolded are stronger, italicized are weaker.
I'm fine with lynching any of the bolded scumreads immediately or as soon as humanly possible.

[Sakura Hana]

Could you explain your reads on DV, pieguy and wayne?

Your quote on wayne looks like you didnt like his reasoning.

[Natirasha]

K so VOTE: Empking. You still with me, telah? I wanna kinda push this guy a bit now.

[talah]

What's your scumread on pieguyn about? I happen to have him in my townbloc for an early town read of obvtown Matias.

I haven't quite learned much yet but I will reflect on it. I gotsa go to work now so no time to unvote, sorreh.

ed: oh well maybe I do have a moment.

VOTE: Empking

[Natirasha]

pieguy is pretty town, so I do wanna know what jiffy's thinking there though. DeasVail's in my nullish-town too.

[DrDolittle]

the more i look, the more i realize that the name pieguyn is actually really clever.

but that is irrelevant.

VOTE: Empking
Sheeping Nats to see what he can conjure up.

[waynegg]

What's your scumread on pieguyn about? I happen to have him in my townbloc for an early town read of obvtown Matias.

Because scum never do that for town cred... Or for that matter call that scum obvtown for the early town "read"...

And peeps wonder why I think you're scum

[mastin2]

Lets put it this way; to the 9 or whatever people voting me: What have I done that is

scummy?

Lack of townposting.

Hell, I'm more town with minimalistic posting than you. That's problematic.

[mastin2]

Also why do you feel like you're playing ScumLurkCho rather than TownAsFuckCho?

Irony.
(But valid point.)

Satisfied

for now

; expecting more Majiffy posting later.

Vote: DeasVail.

[mastin2]

Empking wagon looks worrisome. He's not a townread, but

also

not a scumread; wagon looks fairly baseless.
Explain?

[Natirasha]

Little presence. Didn't like the Sakura vote, although he followed it up with reasoning. Mostly the whole "little presence" thing.

Why DeasVail?

[Empking]

I doubt Majiffy is scum. I'm not scum, and if talah and Nat are going to baselessly wagon someone can they put pressure on Beli or Sak, please.

[mastin2]

Why DeasVail?

DV's posting looks town; DV is scum.
(Real reason:

Look shallow and calculated.

)

(Mostly gut. :/)

[Empking]

Nat: If you're going for little presence (and Maj -> me suggests that). Isn't dopog conspicuous the most likely suspect, why haven't you looked at him?

[Kdub]

Day 1 - Vote Count #10

DrDolittle (0)

-

kanyeknowsbest (0)

-

Belisarius (1)

- Kalimar

waynegg (0)

-

pieguyn (1)

- Belisarius

AGar (0)

-

PeregrineV (0)

-

leviathan93 (0)

-

Kise (0)

-

Empking (4)

- dopog, Natirasha, talah, DrDolittle

Majiffy (5)

- DeasVail, AGar, PeregrineV, NachoKoopa, Sakura Hana

dopog (0)

-

Sakura Hana (3)

- Matias, kanyeknowsbest, Empking

NachoKoopa (0)

-

DeasVail (1)

- mastin2

Matias (0)

-

Mac (0)

-

talah (1)

- waynegg

Natirasha (0)

-

mastin2 (0)

-

Kalimar (1)

- pieguyn

No lynch (0)

-

Not voting (4)

- Kise, Majiffy, Mac, leviathan93

21 votes available
11 votes needed to lynch

V/LA: Mac (9/30), Sakura Hana (9/30), Kalimar (10/2)

Deadline: (expired on 2013-10-18 12:44:27)

[Natirasha]

Because I expect him to be replaced, mostly. You're also a player I have a modicrum of respect for, so you should have presence.

Your answers, though, have been acceptable at this early stage. Welcome to the team, Empking.

VOTE: Koopa. Why do i feel like Feirei is dragging you down, Nacho?

[talah]

VOTE: NachoKoopa

Nominate

Nati

for townbloc. Comfortable in his own skin and pressuring players who definitely need pressuring. Asking the right kind of questions.

talah -

Yes

Matias - y/n?
pieguyn - y/n?

[leviathan93]

@majiffy

ahh an arguer we got here. =)

saying its bad play is a matter of opinion not fact. you don't like that reason? ok then. =P but theres a perfectly reasonable explanation behind it. you could tunnel someone and find shittier reasons then that for someone being scum. =P

but I bet arguments could be made for every player in this game as to why they would be considered town or why they would be considered scum. the point of the game is to find which ones are the best. Its still earlier on in the game. Day 1 is the hardest in my view because there are no solid facts yet (aka a night kill/night things happening). In my opinion pretty much anyone can die day 1 and I wouldn't really care.

I'd prefer it be scum because i'm on town's side, and only I know and scum know that for certain. but as everyone knows every kill gives possible information to town to win the game which is my win personal win condition. =)

[AGar]

What have I done that is scummy?

You came in, made an offhand snide remark about how we should summon you when we were out of RVS when we clearly were, and went back to your regularly scheduled programming of nothing. If you are working those hours (and I'm not challenging that, I know what a bitch graveyard is), then your posting should be practically shitting gold. You should make the most of the opportunities you are getting to post.

Follow up has been better, but don't get indignant because

you

don't understand the wagon on you.

UNVOTE:

Alignment will be indicated with time via reads.

Fair enough.

VOTE: leviathan93

[insert rhetoric of choice here]

[pieguyn]

unvote vote: NachoKoopa

I have some ideas, but I wanna wait a bit before revealing them :>

You came in, made an offhand snide remark about how we should summon you when we were out of RVS when we clearly were, and went back to your regularly scheduled programming of nothing. If you are working those hours (and I'm not challenging that, I know what a bitch graveyard is), then your posting should be practically shitting gold. You should make the most of the opportunities you are getting to post.

did you thoroughly read Majiffy's post

Your answers, though, have been acceptable at this early stage. Welcome to the team, Empking.

why do you think his answers are acceptable?

I doubt Majiffy is scum. I'm not scum, and if talah and Nat are going to baselessly wagon someone can they put pressure on Beli or Sak, please.

Nat: If you're going for little presence (and Maj -> me suggests that). Isn't dopog conspicuous the most likely suspect, why haven't you looked at him?

anything else you have to say? I find it so weird how you just seem to redirect attention onto others without posting much else = =

also answer my question plz, especially now that you apparently wanna pressure Sakura more

VOTE: NachoKoopa

Nominate

Nati

for townbloc. Comfortable in his own skin and pressuring players who definitely need pressuring. Asking the right kind of questions.

talah -

Yes

Matias - y/n?
pieguyn - y/n?

I say yes for now. I like his recent posts a lot ww still wanna know his recent thoughts on Empking tho

[leviathan93]

I doubt Majiffy is scum. I'm not scum, and if talah and Nat are going to baselessly wagon someone can they put pressure on Beli or Sak, please.

empking, I don't think you're scum, but what's the point of a post like this? =/ mainly the first part of the second sentence. who's gonna believe that? what does you not being scum have to do with Majiffy not being scum? referencing both your alignments together seems scummy to me because only scum know other people's alignments.

[talah]

^ heh, nice. No doubt you're town now, I'm glad that my townread on you is correct :)

Your deflection comment on Empking occurred to me as well. I guess what I've learned about Empking, is that he responds well to pressure, so if he's not contributing, he definitely should be wagoned, preferably baselessly.

Although if one *really* wanted a base at this point - it's interesting that the deflection is onto the other player I named as a possible wagon (Beli), onto Sakura (current wagonbait), references Majiffy's indignance to support 'baseless wagon = bad' (where it's not, it gives some great feedback and analysis as long as it's not quickhammered - which as an aside I was slightly interested that Majiffy almost got to L-1), and then adds a lurker who I can't even remember a post from (dopog) as alternatives.

I mean, that's some pretty solid deflection.

I think I understand Nati's rationale on the jump but I'll leave that to him - and wait for Matias' feedback on an official induction given your slight hesitation (which is fine).

---

I wouldn't be inclined to wagon Sakura - at this stage. She will need pressure at some point but might be easier to read through encouragement and watching changes of attitudes, votes, etc. I don't think we'll get anything useful from her if she's the major L-1 wagon.

I'm actually interested to know what kainwest thinks of the alternate townbloc / wagoning strategy right now. He's a pretty good player from what I've read and I think I'll recognise a faulty or false opinion, terse as the feedback may be.

kayne - that's a challenge.

k - Also do you think waynegg's trolling or showing signs of scum? Emp?

[talah]

^ heh, nice. No doubt you're town now, I'm glad that my townread on you is correct

^^^ That in response to pieguy, btw. I ain't got a read on you yet leviathan, ehh tending nicely consistent but y'know.

[kanyeknowsbest]

yo agar leviatan is like 100% town.