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Deadline: (expired on 2013-10-18 12:44:27)
Kise has been prodded.
Mollie sorts me based mainly around the way I behave around her, not whether I'm lurking or not.In post 329, Majiffy wrote:True, but it works well for Mollie and Ffery.
I lean town on DeasVail; the other bolded scumreads are town as fuck.In post 329, Majiffy wrote:Do we share any scum reads?
(Read as: do you scum read any of my bolded scum reads?)
This is pretty much how Leviathan is bound to react as either alignment.In post 339, Majiffy wrote:"ahahaha he called me out and I totally don't have anything to say ahahahahah this is akward here's a =P"
I'm more okay with this vote than I should be.
I won't unless he's town!In post 358, DeasVail wrote:I don't like 350 much at all actually.
Nacho, please don't leave me all alone on this Majiffy wagon.
Not good play but not scummy play and I can't think how this situation is significant unless you think all town would approach that situation in that way.In post 373, AGar wrote:he decides to just randomly choose one of them out of a hat or something.
He tends to waffle like crazy and rarely has strong reads. Also not a scumtell.In post 373, AGar wrote:That is 6 different cases of Levi refusing to handcuff himself to a particular read on a player in either direction. He actually apparently has zero reads 15 pages into this game.
Sakura read seems like he's doing something. Majiffy argument sees like he's doing something.In post 373, AGar wrote:It's simply smoke in mirrors, making it look like he's doing something but rather doing not a damned thing this game.
I don't think it's obsolete.In post 414, mastin2 wrote:Wondering 'bout my DV vote--would appreciate commentary on him and if it's obsolete.
I've found he sorts me pretty instantly as scum.In post 422, Pyrotechnics wrote:asking for help on reading him feels off.
Let me make this clear:In post 417, pieguyn wrote:okay noIn post 412, AGar wrote:Clearly I didn't give a shit about that post, I even specifically said his first postat allbothered me, the tone and all that accompanied by it. I also have since said I've been satisfied with what he has brought to the table. Jesus christ you're dense.
my point is you accused him with a false reason and are trying to push scum vs. town on what's probably a town vs. town. I never once said you found the post I quoted to be suspicious. By quoting the post I was directly pointing out where Maji said something that shows what you said is wrong, not saying you found it suspicious. from what you've posted, IMO you're either you're seeing and defending against something that's not there or you're just trying to cover up my true point. also, the last sentence is scummy as fuck, cause it seems like you want people to just disregard what I say entirely instead of looking at my arguments.
Read this post. If you don't get it, you're not going to.pieguyn wrote: not only that but you still haven't explained the false logic on DV
Not every person, but when someone's ENTIRE POSTING HISTORY is "Well this person could be scum but I might be wrong" and not a single read is committed to ("I think this person is scum. Let's lynch them."), yes, I do think that way. Show me one post where Leviathan has actually given a concrete read and COMMITTED to it. ONE. Please, enlighten me. [PEdit: He has apparently voted Belisarius by the time I post this. Why? I have no clue, and I doubt there's a reason, but that's the first time in the entire game he's committed to anything.]pieguyn wrote:if he made a big thing about "hey I knew he'd flip scum/town" in the future, I agree it'd be suspicious. but srsly do you think this way about every single person who posts a weak read and says it might be incorrect?In post 412, AGar wrote:[1] No, the use of active lurking is because that's what he's doing. He's not posting content, he's not doing anything. He's just posting fluff. That is the definition of active lurking. I couldn't give two fucks whether you mentioned it previously or before, or whether your attention is on me or on the moon.
[2] He said in each post "I don't think you're scum, but this could definitely be scummy." That's not a read. That's a big ol' stack of Belgian waffles that he could flip back to and say "Look! I knew something was scummy about him all along!" if wagons form.
yeah that was the exact post I was suspicious of. if you supposedly weren't suspecting him anymore at that point then why did you say it's suspicious how he apparently wasn't making the most of his opportunities to post?AGar wrote:Post 294 - My next post in the game. A reply to a question in 270 and a fucking unvote.
read my posts plz. I never said you found 275 suspicious. ever. I quoted 275 cause it directly shows my point. this seems like a really defensive reaction. = =AGar wrote:I don't give two flying fucks about what he posted in 275 because my next post after he made that (read: THE NEXT TIME I READ THE THREAD) I had already changed my read on him. Clearly he had reasons not to post a lot, and clearly he responded in a manner which I found as acceptable.
AGar wrote:Read this post. If you don't get it, you're not going to.
your logic was: he's mafia -> he's trying to extend a wagon instead of legitimately being suspicious -> he's mafia. I fail to see one post you've made where you defended your logic on him at all, let alone this specifically.In post 345, AGar wrote:2) I don't think you actually believe that Majiffy "made up a reason" for not posting content. He was pretty straightforward in that he felt that we weren't at a point worth putting in the effort, and he's backed that up since. Whether that's a smart play or not is up for debate, whether that's what actually happened or not isn't. You're grasping for straws to try and stretch out a wagon that, quite frankly, is shit and should be dead by now.
syrlicious and tammtrumIn post 429, Pyrotechnics wrote:As it's the both of us, you need a special new nickname like syrtammilicious or something.
What do you think of kises prod dodgapalooza?
I think it's scummy as fuck, considering activity elsewhere.In post 429, Pyrotechnics wrote:What do you think of kises prod dodgapalooza?
He was an easy mislynch because he usually lurks pretty hard as scum and was lurking at the beginning of Syr's Hard-Boiled. Here I'm going after him because he's lurking pretty hard, promising things, and not delivering. I'm calling Syr in on it because Syr can read him well and him interacting with two of us is better than him interacting with one of us.In post 430, Pyrotechnics wrote:You know what bothers me about you going after Mac? Is that you just stated in a scum qt that he was an easy mislynch, so why do you think scum Mac here?
I WAS ANSWERING A QUESTION ASKED IN 270.In post 435, pieguyn wrote:yeah that was the exact post I was suspicious of. if you supposedly weren't suspecting him anymore at that point then why did you say it's suspicious how he apparently wasn't making the most of his opportunities to post?AGar wrote:Post 294 - My next post in the game.and a fucking unvote.A reply to a question in 270
1) This isn't a newbie game. That's not a tell. That's just an idiot.In post 434, leviathan93 wrote:@Agar
false, there are reasons. =P
1) a bad opening with a vote to no lynch. everyone knows those should never happen. so why even bother attempting?
2) He has 13 posts. Most people have more. I may tend to lean toward lurkers/minimal posters as scum, I feel the majority of others have done more individual scumhunting then Beli has. even though I can't really put myself in that list so its kind of hypocritical of me to say. =P
3) most of his posts are saying things, but giving no reasons. posts 114 and 222 specifically
4) some of his posts don't even say anything useful. posts 110, 114, 222, 227, 360, 381
Yeah? Well guess what... I don't.In post 423, Pyrotechnics wrote:This is really really bad. That "before" doesn't actually mean shit. Someone tried to pull that on me in a game not too long ago, and I was just referencing that I hadn't been scum in a mod's game's before, not that I was scum at that time.
Besides, the newb is holy fuck strong in talah, but I'll be really super surprised if he comes back scum. I just don't see scum saying some of the things he has, especially if he's never been scum before.
ahhh, so you're just a dick. nevermind then. =PIn post 437, AGar wrote:I WAS ANSWERING A QUESTION ASKED IN 270.In post 435, pieguyn wrote:yeah that was the exact post I was suspicious of. if you supposedly weren't suspecting him anymore at that point then why did you say it's suspicious how he apparently wasn't making the most of his opportunities to post?AGar wrote:Post 294 - My next post in the game.and a fucking unvote.A reply to a question in 270
I WAS ANSWERING A QUESTION ASKED IN 270.
I WAS ANSWERING A QUESTION ASKED IN 270.
I WAS ANSWERING A QUESTION ASKED IN 270.
I WAS ANSWERING A QUESTION ASKED IN 270.
I WAS ANSWERING A QUESTION ASKED IN 270.
ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER. CAN YOU READ IT?
Majiffy asked WHY PEOPLE WERE VOTING HIM IN POST 270. I RESPONDED TO THAT. I EVEN FUCKING QUOTED IT.
As for the DV shit, you've already dug into your confirmation bias of god only knows what so I'm not wasting my time. If you really think that my logic was "he's scum -> find a reason -> he's scum," there's literally no point in addressing me at all any further because I'm going to get banned/force replaced from this game if I have to beat my face against a keyboard one more time to explain simple logic to you like I did above.
1) This isn't a newbie game. That's not a tell. That's just an idiot.In post 434, leviathan93 wrote:@Agar
false, there are reasons. =P
1) a bad opening with a vote to no lynch. everyone knows those should never happen. so why even bother attempting?
2) He has 13 posts. Most people have more. I may tend to lean toward lurkers/minimal posters as scum, I feel the majority of others have done more individual scumhunting then Beli has. even though I can't really put myself in that list so its kind of hypocritical of me to say. =P
3) most of his posts are saying things, but giving no reasons. posts 114 and 222 specifically
4) some of his posts don't even say anything useful. posts 110, 114, 222, 227, 360, 381Strike 1
2) I can say the exact same thing about you - and you acknowledge this - so why shouldn't we run you up? By your own logic, you're worthy of a vote.Strike 2
3) I'd rather him be committing to something in the form of his reads and not give reasons then be wishy-washy when he talks about something.Strike 3
4) 110 gives a vote and, with that essentially, a read. 114 gives a read. 222 gives a read. 227 is a vote. 360 is minimal but still content. 381 is the only one I'll give you.Strike 4
Try again, scumbag.
FYI ~ Im talking about another player's (not your) logic trail. You being a newb is their words and I have legitimate concerns about about that flawed logic, so let's see what they have to say. And lol telling me to defer to others' "reads" on you. I can't even begin to explain how funny that is and what makes it so.In post 441, talah wrote:FYI weg - I've got three or four completed games onsite. Not a super-noob.
There are a few players here who are in a better position to assess my alignment. That's all I can say about that.
you did answer the question, but then you immediately went saying he was "not making the most of his opportunities to post"In post 437, AGar wrote:I WAS ANSWERING A QUESTION ASKED IN 270.
instead of explaining your thought process, just says I'm wrong and accuses me of confbias. scum found, ggsAGar wrote:As for the DV shit, you've already dug into your confirmation bias of god only knows what so I'm not wasting my time. If you really think that my logic was "he's scum -> find a reason -> he's scum," there's literally no point in addressing me at all any further because I'm going to get banned/force replaced from this game if I have to beat my face against a keyboard one more time to explain simple logic to you like I did above.
when you do I wanna hear your reads on Beli plzIn post 426, Kalimar wrote:I need to catch up and I will do that sometime soon, but something I've been wondering:
Mastin, what did you mean when you said you 'weren't invested in the game' at the start?
hello nahco could u pls let me know how u came to the conclusion that i have a townread on natyIn post 314, NachoKoopa wrote:kanye seems town so far because he's questioning stuff, prodding good players. his townread on natirasha was good and his scumread on sakura is looking better than it should be.
why are you trying to play statistics instead of actually scumhuntingIn post 310, Sakura Hana wrote:Well sorry but I can't make you like my posts every single game.In post 306, NachoKoopa wrote:I haven't liked your posts so far :/
On other news i think kanye and Matias are town, so by PoE from the pool of 3.
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early sakura defenders: is this kinda shjit to be expected from sakura? does it make her more likely town or scum in youer eyes?or is it just null 2In post 310, Sakura Hana wrote:Well sorry but I can't make you like my posts every single game.In post 306, NachoKoopa wrote:I haven't liked your posts so far :/
On other news i think kanye and Matias are town, so by PoE from the pool of 3.
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