Micro 239- Random Mafia S GAME OVER

[Guyett]

VOTE: Guyett
Because this is a good wagon

[Wisdom]

How on earth did TCold, without having posted ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING got in there?

Via PoE. Everyone else seemed town at the time.

[Humble Poirot]

Seriously? More appeals to emotion?

I'm absolutely fine with calling your bluff. I'm curious as to what your thought process is, though... "

YKV got away with self voting so I'm angry and will do the same!

"

As town, you'd have no sane motivation to do this, other than a complete breakdown and I don't think you've been pressured enough to have one after ONE vote. By the way, this is not an invitation for you to have fake an annoying mental breakdown. The only way I could consider unvoting you and not pushing your lynch would be with polite posting, decent arguments and good examples that you're willing to scumhunt.

As of now, I'm quite confident in my vote.

[Wisdom]

Wisdom excuse in 89 seems like a defence.

It is a defense. It was pretty obvious YKV was telling the truth yet Bulbazak was trying to push his lynch anyway.

[Humble Poirot]

Wisdom, as for the POE. That's a plausible explanation, thanks.

As for the defense issue, my problem with that and other things like the immediate interaction with CDB (asking him the same thing he asked someone else) is that you seem to be asking loaded questions about perfectly acceptable opinions or tactics from people who ARE scumhunting or HAVE opinions and just ignoring what their motives for those might be. Bulbazak can be wrong or right in his assesments of YKV but there's a consistency in his opinions, changes and votes. You don't seem to want to read into any of that (e.g.: Yes, he was trying to push his lynch but also, yes, the guard claim striked him as fake).

You don't seem to try to convince anyone of your scumreads nor really pursue them. Again, it all seems posturing.

[JacobSavage]

I like your style Humble.

I just do. Honestly, what more do you want me to say.

[Guyett]

As of now, I'm quite confident in my vote.

[1baldeagle1]

I'm fine with either lynching Wisdom or Guyett today. @Humble, they were obviously bussing each other for no reason and now Guyett completely backs off of Wisdom, so he didn't want to bus or otherwise it would be too obvious.

Also:

self meta is scummy stop pretending it isn't.

A bus is where scum at least votes for their scum buddy.
Scum often put their buddy in their null-scum or scum pile so they can bus but saying they are scum is not bussing by any stretch of the imagination.

This is funny because all this slot has done is either call Wisdom scum or null. So, he like admitted that he's bussing. XD

P-Edit: *sigh*

[1baldeagle1]

Also, according to Wisdom and Guyett were trying to make it look like it was alignment indicative whenever you self meta. Wisdom and Guyett were on the same wagon, along with YKV.

[Wisdom]

Not really seeing Guyett as scum. From what I've seen, he does this selfvote thing as town too.

[Guyett]

I'm fine with either lynching Wisdom or Guyett today. @Humble, they were obviously bussing each other for no reason and now Guyett completely backs off of Wisdom, so he didn't want to bus or otherwise it would be too obvious.

Also:

self meta is scummy stop pretending it isn't.

A bus is where scum at least votes for their scum buddy.
Scum often put their buddy in their null-scum or scum pile so they can bus but saying they are scum is not bussing by any stretch of the imagination.

This is funny because all this slot has done is either call Wisdom scum or null. So, he like admitted that he's bussing. XD

P-Edit: *sigh*

Bussing depends on both of us being scum, you're going to feel very foolish later

[Humble Poirot]

@Guyett:

You realize that instead of posting emotional gifs you could be addressing my concerns?

Or explaining the inconsistency of saying that YKV gambit made him look super town and later voting him for lying as town in the very same sentence where he fakeclaims jester. Why take at face value the first part of a sentence that contains a lie in the second part to prove that he is lying as scum? It's absurdly reaching.

You're now VOTING YOURSELF for no other apparent purpose than to not address me. It's an awfully anti-town evasive maneuver considering you nitpicked only one thing out of my post and didn't respond to any of the rest.

Guyett's Cartman like "screw you guys, I'm going home" should not be allowed. And town frustration is not even warranted considering it happened after JUST. ONE. VOTE.

@Jacob,

I had a question for you and others at the end. I'd like you to respond to that.

@JacobSavage, @Bulbazak, @Guyett: If you honestly believe YKV to be scum, who else is? Also, do you have any counterarguments to my interpretation of the timing of YKV's actions in the jester situation?

prev-edit:

Bussing depends on both of us being scum, you're going to feel very foolish later

Hah! come on! you KEEP with the appeals to emotion after one vote. You VOTE yourself after it and pretend town already mislynched you and tell them what a bad idea it is. And yet, you don't push anyone else as scum or say who town should be voting instead.

sad.

[YellowKingValley]

Also, according to Wisdom and Guyett were trying to make it look like it was alignment indicative whenever you self meta.

Add YKV too, who said:

Self meta uses generalization to make a circular argument. Basically fail logic. Fail logic is either dumb or scum.

[YellowKingValley]

I'm open to lynching uncooperative players. Don't care whether they are town or not.

VOTE: Guyett

Scummy Bulbazak can wait for later.

[Guyett]

I'm sure anyone who has played with me before knows what i am doing

[MafiaSSK]

Vote Count 10

Wisdom (2):

Empking, 1Baldeagle1

Bulbazak (0):

Guyett (3):

Humble Poirot, Guyett, YellowKingValley

1baldeagle1 (1):

Wisdom

Empking (0):

ChannelDelibird (0):

JacobSavage (1):

Channeldelibird

YellowKingValley (2):

JacobSavage, Bulbazak

Humble Poirot (0):

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Guyett is currently at L-2.

[Empking]

HYmble: Yes, I could very easily vote Guy.

[JacobSavage]

@Humble you haven't really explained it honestly.

You said you liked his timing. What about it? Was their an equal number of beats between his claim and unvote, was their a secret message hidden in his post times?

I believe him to be solo scum OR scum with CBD.

[ChannelDelibird]

When I'm town I never lie. My rolecard says that I'm town-aligned Jester. Since I'm town, my Jester claim is the truth and nothing but the truth.

It's 7am for me, so I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you may be trying to make some kind of argumentative point here that I've missed. Clarify immediately.

I'm sure anyone who has played with me before knows what i am doing

Nope. I was actually just about to say, upon reading your self-vote above, that this seems weird.

[Guyett]

I think the only game we played together was the greater idea mafia. I was Cult recruiter there I think? Check out other games of mine
I'm going to be absent for most of today unfortunately

[ChannelDelibird]

I think I liked you better as a cult recruiter.

[Guyett]

at least I had something to do then.

Ok I am being intentionally anti town (but not scummy), in doing so making myself a nice big mislynch target for the scum, to draw said scum out. It is not the first time I have done this gambit. Feel free to lynch me if you do not believe me and when I flip town you'll have a nice list with our scum on it to reference.

I will have to do this for maximum effect
UNVOTE:

[Wisdom]

So what did you gain from that? Who is scum?

[ChannelDelibird]

Ok I am being intentionally anti town (but not scummy), in doing so making myself a nice big mislynch target for the scum, to draw said scum out.

Please learn this lesson immediately: This gambit does not work.

[Guyett]

YellowKingValley looks bad imo