Micro 234 - VisCon: Sacrifice [Game Over]

[Skelda]

Hey everyone! So, this game is really interesting, since it doesn't really matter who is scum as long as we send town to the safehouse. We could potentially win with no idea who the scum are, which is super intriguing. So...

VOTE: Skelda

I trust myself more than anyone.

[Skelda]

Um, since votes are good, wouldn't RVS be useless?

Kinda. I don't even know where to begin with this game though. Why doesn't everyone give a nice little piece telling us all why we should vote for you? That seems like a nice place to start. I'll go first.

I am Skelda, and you should vote for me because I came up with this idea.

[Skelda]

There would be zero motivation not to self hammer, since for both town and scum it is beneficial to get into the safehouse. But, I imagine most people self-voting before it got to the hammer point, honestly.

I'm not really sure how to read people in this game, since there is no suspicion that anyone need express. And I don't think scum will have difficulty looking town, since in this setup scum motives and town motives are pretty similar: just to get themselves in the safehouse. I guess scum might want to send their scumbuddies, but if only one scum makes it to the safehouse they can win it for their faction.

And 5 days, my goodness! We need to hustle!

[Skelda]

Hi guys. I know it will take a while, but I'll try to get caught up. but for now, all wagons are good wagons right?
VOTE: Brian Skies

Yup. So, Brian, what have you done to make yourself vote-worthy?

[Skelda]

VOTE: JS

[Skelda]

Meh, JW and TNE both get my vote.

Bana, I can just tell that she's town.

TNE is trying too hard, in my opinion.

I think JS, JW, and Bana are town at the moment. JS and JW in particular.

When we lynch, maybe we should lynch people who don't seem like likely scumpartners. The worst case scenario would be multiple scum getting in there.

[Skelda]

Yeah, Skelda is scum from 86.

Bana, it's meta mostly and gut.

Why? VOTE: JW looks good.

[Skelda]

I'm assuming whoever is the second-most townie player will die tonight will die, and we will be left with increasingly scummy players by the last safehouse send. But reading people in this setup is difficult since we have nothing to go on compared to other games. It is much easier for scum to look town in this setup, since they aren't really accused ever.

[Skelda]

I would too, actually.

TNE, so what? Don't send me to the safe house, I honestly don't care as long as scum don't get there. And if it isn't about the self-vote, why did you even feel the need to bring it up? Just to make it look like you have evidence against me?

JW is very town, I'm glad he is going today.

[Skelda]

Alright, well if we are doing a scumreading phase, guess I'll start. So far, TNE has been so quick to make statements like: "Well, you aren't ever getting to the safehouse." And, this game just seems to, by its nature, eliminate many scumtells, so I'm not sure how her early reads can be so certain. Plus, each Day our odds of lynching scum go up, so you shouldn't be so quick to put people in that "never send to safehouse" pile. Is this unfair? Is TNE normally like this?

[Skelda]

don't be dense, odds of putting scum in.

Also Skelda, why does eliminated scum tells mean we can't scum read someone?

Yes, that is what I meant.

I never said we couldn't read anybody, just that it is more difficult. I'm clearly reading TNE and you, aren't I?

[Skelda]

I didn't realize that when everyone not in the safehouse died, they got flips. Hopefully, the scum didn't either, that could be a big advantage in lylo.

Anyway, it seems to have been decided

[Skelda]

I didn't realize that when everyone not in the safehouse died, they got flips. Hopefully, the scum didn't either, that could be a big advantage in lylo.

Anyway, it seems to have been decided that Gaiden will never get to the safehouse. This is fine, as long as you understand that he will stay around now until the end, whether he is scum or not, and if he isn't, not sure I want that. Too late, anyway. But, I don't see how everyone can be so certain, although he is clearly the scummiest at the moment.

I still suspect TNE as most likely scumpartner. And, I hit submit too early, oops.

[Skelda]

also, it took you 6 minutes to type the last part? if you hit it too early i would expect you to have fixed it quicker.

It was a phone post, and I was multi-tasking. That is also irrelevant.

[Skelda]

Well, excuse me for having a life, Gaiden. Anyway...

I think we've just found your scumpartner in Lincolm. There is no way JW is that scummy to you guys, or you would have brought it up before now. Maybe I was wrong about TNE.

Look, making the Day longer when he could self-hammer serves the town wincon and not the scum. So, the only way JW is scum is if he knows that his scumpartner isn't liable to be lynched. Still, I think that his lack of a self-hammer was very town, and obviously gave us more info than we wouldn't otherwise have. I am confident we are sending the right person...

[Skelda]

I'm tired of this day.
VOTE: JW[\vote]

Shut up! Hypocrite!

[Skelda]

I thought Gaiden was your partner, TNE. But now I'm leaning towards Gaiden-Lincolm.

No way town would send in someone they "suspected".

[Skelda]

I'm buddies with gaiden?

eeewwwww

I know right? I can only hope I'm never scum with him.

[Skelda]

I'm still thinkin JW-skelda scum team.

Then you are an idiot. Why would you try to hammer someone you think is scum?

[Skelda]

Well, excuse me for having a life, Gaiden. Anyway...

I think we've just found your scumpartner in Lincolm. There is no way JW is that scummy to you guys, or you would have brought it up before now. Maybe I was wrong about TNE.

Look, making the Day longer when he could self-hammer serves the town wincon and not the scum. So, the only way JW is scum is if he knows that his scumpartner isn't liable to be lynched. Still, I think that his lack of a self-hammer was very town, and obviously gave us more info than we wouldn't otherwise have. I am confident we are sending the right person...

Lack of self hammer is town and servers town wincon

lolno

We had pretty much decided who we were sending to the safe house for the day. More disscussion only tells the scum who to nightkill or not to nightkill.

Well, it is clear more discussion has given us more information. Scum likely already knew who was dying.

[Skelda]

Alright, finally.

See you guys on Day 2.

Thank god...

[Skelda]

Well, that was predictable.

[Skelda]

Brian for me as well. Or eagle.

[Skelda]

Then should we just send Brian through and give the scum nothing more to work with? Have we decided whether or not long days are to the town's advantage in these games?

[Skelda]

Should we vote Brian? Quicklynches feel so wrong in the gut, but logically are they advantageous here, right?

VOTE: BrainSkies Whatever, let's do it.

[Skelda]

Actually, UNVOTE: BrainSkies. I want to be sure about this.

[Skelda]

Just vote him. if you don't think he's town explain why. More talk is an advantage to scum

I do think he's town, but we could just all be mindless drones doing exactly what the scum want?

I didn't realize I was putting him at L-1. I feel like if anyone resents him being lynched they should speak up now before we kill him.

[Skelda]

you keep using words like "lynched" and "killed" I don't understand why. JW even defended you the last time you did this and i called into question.

I know, does it matter? I-m used to saying lynched, and it rolls off the tongue easier than "sent to the sahehouse", so I keep using it out of habit.

Gaiden, I really don't understand your motives for auto-hammering, but if no more discussion is needed I'll VOTE: BrianSkies.

[Skelda]

Gaiden, what happened to auto-hammering?

[Skelda]

Gosh, you are all so scummy!

I do not want to send Gaiden, they'll just lynch him in a LyLo situation. Lincolm is not getting anywhere near the safehouse. And TNE has been one of my scumreads all game so I'm leaning Bana. Plus his bewilderment is very town.

[Skelda]

Same with lincolm

I'm sheeping? When I'm sheeping?

We've all sheeped our way through this game. This setup made it hard to not sheep, at least for me. Everyone here is a sheep, troll, or scum, that is how we got here.

And yeah, I'll self-hammer too. I don't think I'm getting the votes, but if I do, it is happening.

[Skelda]

Gaiden, TNE, and JS never sheeping. I never sheeping myself, but if you said yes, then whatever, it is weird to the maximum.

1. JS is dead.
2. That is partly why I think TNE is scum.
3. Gaiden is a troll, so yes, I'll give you that.
4. Don't give me that you didn't sheep.

[Skelda]

4. Don't give me that you didn't sheep.

No, I didn't. When ?

During both sends to the safehouse you just basically agreed with others. We all have, there has been almost no dissent to anything this game because why would anyone dislike being sent to the safehouse? Your vote may not have been on the person who was ultimately lynched Day 1, but you still basically sheeped.

[Skelda]

Alright, so I don't see myself getting sent to the safehouse, Gaiden isn't going to because it was agreed upon D1, and I don't trust Lincolm.

So, of Bana and TNE, who do you all prefer?

[Skelda]

So what you are sayin is that your thoughts can't change in the day we had?

Well, Gaiden, if we sent you to the safehouse, I think the people there would just kill you in a lylo situation, so I'd prefer someone else. Besides, my opinion didn't change.

[Skelda]

VOTE: Bana

TNE isn't getting in the safehouse today.

[Skelda]

Why not gaiden in safehouse? like I said, he is like conf town or something.

You would be killed! Vote someone else.

[Skelda]

Trying to act laid back like your not secretly dieing to get in the safe house, because theres (4) townies and (2) scum alive right? odds are in "your" favor.

Banakai should REALLY not go anywhere near the safehouse now.

This is OBVIOUSLY some attempt to "scum-paint" me.

VOTE: lincolm

If you know lincolm you'd agree to this.

Voting for your partner is certainly predictable.

[Skelda]

TNE, I absolutely refuse to vote for Lincolm. Why are you so certain?

[Skelda]

I think we've found ourselves at a sort of crossroads here. I'm inclined to think two scum are still around, and I think they are Lincolm and TNE. But there is another possible scumteam that has emerged in myself and Bana. And Gaiden none of us want in LyLo or feel certain about.

So, Gaiden, who would you prefer go to the safehouse, Bana/myself or TNE/Lincolm? You are the deciding vote here, don't give me that stupid self-vote again, I am not buying it.

[Skelda]

It's simple. I vote for neither group. So both factions should just vote one person, then let the mod decide if no one is gonna put me in safehouse. But you just said that it looks like I am not scum. So why wouldn't you vote me?

Are you seriously suggesting that you'd rather the person sent to the safehouse be random than decide it yourself?

And why? Maybe you are scum, and one of the people in one of the factions is your partner, so you don't want your flip to affect their chance of success?

I'm not voting you, though. Nope, forget about it.

[Skelda]

Don't worry, what i just said will be the outcome either way. At some point, both groups will vote exactly one person. Then RNG will decide. I'm just gonna coast and watch this through.

I think I don't like you.

[Skelda]

I don't want to go to the safehouse either, but I refuse to send TNE. Bana is the best option so they don't even go to LyLo.

[Skelda]

Gaiden, if you vote TNE, you will be an enourmous hypocrite.

[Skelda]

Yeah, random is better, heh? No. Please vote TNE.

Oh, I agree. Random isn't better, but at least with random we have a chance.

We should have forseen this problem, really.

[Skelda]

I agree that town have chance, but you have chance also. And it is immediately win for you also. So, no.

I don't want to go to the safehouse! I don't even have any votes. Unless whoever we send now is scum with their buddy already in there, they are not going to win instantly.

[Skelda]

Random is random from this 5 person. Your buddy already in there.

Wait, really? I thought it was between the two people who recieved the most votes.

[Skelda]

So much fluff...

TNE and Lincolm, have you two read Bana as scum? If not, vote for him.

[Skelda]

Just throwing this out there. If this comes down to random between TNE and Bana, I'm just gonna vote Bana.

Good. That makes me feel better.

I still wish you hadn't played this game though.

[Skelda]

lol
VOTE: Lincolm

Bad!

[Skelda]

I quite liked this game! Nice job modding, FakeGod. And good comeback scum! I really thought we were going to win going into lylo.