Open 533: Pick Your Poison - The End

[beastcharizard]

Come on people. It is 5 pages. Not like you are subbing into a 20 page game or something. The posts aren't even long.

[NicCage]

Actually, screwing up a reaction test can be a scumtell because normally, a townie would just let test continue without going 'OH MY GOD, GUYS WATCH OUT, THIS IS A TEST!!!' Usually, I can tell somethings are reaction tests, but I don't say anything.

Goddamn dude, really?

[Egg]

Venrob, you voted baldeagle for serious voting. My vote was serious as well. Am I scum too? Also, "what reasons" is a pretty reasonable response to a vote "for reasons".

Notscience, i'd have given town Vig, JK, and cop if I was scum. Vig can end up hurting town (and usually does). JK has info that can mean someone is scum or NK target and that can be a headache. Tracker makes you worry when you kill. 1 shot cop is basically the same as IC if they hit town except that they have to actually get their results out and it could confirm two if a claim goes uncountered. Actually. I changed my mind. IC over cop.

I don't have a problem with baldeagle getting the role wrong. I personally didn't look at them when I answered.

Still haven't read past Page 2. Sorry.

[Kalimar]

Vote Count 1.3

(5)

NicCage

: Egg, Hermy, Banakai, 1baldeagle1, YellowKingValley
(2)

1baldeagle1

: Venrob, BK201
(1)

YellowKingValley

: beastcharizard
(1)

Banakai

: NicCage
(1)

Egg

: Hot Cheetos
(1)

Hermy

: notscience

Not Voting:

mnemonicdevice, YES YES YES

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2013-10-22 07:45:00)

[Hermy]

VOTE: Hermy

This looks very much like a forced newbie tell to get people to take it easy on her.

I have no intention to post any newbie tells. I've played many games off-site, and I don't classify myself as a newbie. (I don't classify myself as a master/veteran either though)

[Hermy]

I know I've got a while until a prod, but I feel like dodging it now

I don't think I have anything useful to say, that hasn't been said by somebody already.

Nononononononononononononononononononononononononnono.

You can't do this, you need to post your thoughts and your reads and vote for whoever you think is scum. You can't just sit there silently and do nothing.

Fine. If you want reads then you'll get reads. *entering ISO mode*

[Hermy]

I'm on my iPod and therefore can't do all my reads in a single post without losing what I write at least five times. And anyway, I feel like quoting stuff.

VOTE: NicCage

If your talking about not voting, you did the same thing

If your talking about "You will tonight" then learn to take a joke

No I'm not talking about not voting.

This is a shitty bw vote pretending not to be one.

Do you feel like I've overreacted to what he said? All I did was comment that it was gross.

VOTE: banaki

Nice OMGUS there...

Actually, screwing up a reaction test can be a scumtell because normally, a townie would just let test continue without going 'OH MY GOD, GUYS WATCH OUT, THIS IS A TEST!!!' Usually, I can tell somethings are reaction tests, but I don't say anything.

Goddamn dude, really?

So you're not even going to defend yourself? Just a 'Damn dude, really?'. Every time I've heard somebody say 'really?' they and up being scum. What's so surprising about that post? It's perfectly correct.

[Hermy]

Egg is null. I refuse to put anything other than null for anybody who hasn't posted at least eight times in this thread.

Therefore, all the others who haven't posted much are null too.

[Hermy]

Mnemonic has only posted seven times, but I feel like picking this post apart at the moment.

I think that we should lynch between the two people who claimed innocent townie, the odds of getting scum are higher there. Whoever is innocent townie should help us by claiming, so we have a confirmed scum.

So many things wrong here...

a) So if neither of them are an innocent child or the IC refuses/forgets to claim then we risk lynching a VT or different PR.
b) Confirming. So if we have no jailer then they'll be dead soon, and LyLo will be harder. (Providing that we do, in fact, actually have an IC).
c) What if it was an RVS joke (I think it was, not sure)? Then we lynch either one or two innocents...

[notscience]

All aboard for towncred.

[Hermy]

I hate you all. I will make sure you tonight!

Nice reaction test. I like this post.

is town.

Well noooo. Really? With all these scum claims we're also getting, this should be a breeze. (sarcasm)

[Hermy]

So, guys

I claim IC.

Discuss.

Hm. Reaction test, real IC (if we have one) or scum rolefishing?

Here's a fun question-

If you were scum, which 3 roles would you pick for town to have and why?

Because I feel like answering...

Probably:
2-Shot Vig - There is an extremely tiny chance that they'll hit scum on both goes. Providing they don't die too quickly, they can take out an extra townie or two for the mafia. Of course, it does come with the additional risk of killing a mafia member in the right hands, but it's a risk that I'd be willing to take.
1-Shot cop - The chances of getting scum are pretty small. You'll also have to get the town to believe you. You also have to make a good investigation and announce the results before you die.
Tracker - There are three people to choose from, when it comes to picking who should kill. The odds of the tracker tracking that person would be pretty small. They could also track the vig and possibly get them lynched. Or the cop, if the cop happens to be (extremely) unlucky.

Reasons for roles I wouldn't choose:
IC - If the scum didn't get this person before LyLo then that sucks. And anyway, it's not exactly a very useful p
Jailer - I'd find this way too powerful. They could stop a kill be either blocking somebody they find suspicious, OR going and jailing somebody who they think of as innocent. They COULD stop a vig-kill or a cop but the chances are rather small.

Here's another question-

When forced to claim, do you claim something you know is in the game to out the PR (tracker or JK) or do you claim those not in the game?

Hmm. I'd say probably those not in the game, as that would possibly lead to most roles outing to find a possible liar. Though, on the other hand, there is more of an outing chance when claiming the one in the game. There is also the risk of a lynch, but if you out the jailer then at night your scumbuddies could kill a good power role (of course, the logical thong would be to not claim jailer in the first

[Hermy]

Shoot. I pressed submit halfway through a sentence. So many typos •____•

[Hermy]

I counter claim IC

I was lieing about being IC,
Pretty sure notscience was too

Still not liking Nic. He's over reacting abit and he still hasn't said why he's calling that post "WIFOM"

Is this scum claiming IC and then taking it back when trouble comes? Hmm...

In general, I haven't seen very many super-helpful posts. Just a few.

[notscience]

Egg is null. I refuse to put anything other than null for anybody who hasn't posted at least eight times in this thread.

Therefore, all the others who haven't posted much are null too.

Seems like most are null regardless of posting times

[Hermy]

VOTE: YKV
For reasons.

Also fucking hell I REALLY WANTED TO BE MAF IN THIS SETUP!!!

Really? You're just going to say that? That sounds fairly scummy.

In post 28 i was asked what reasons.
Also ppl who say "serious vote" are always scumz!

Somebody is

definitely

scum because of what they said?

[Hermy]

Actually, screwing up a reaction test can be a scumtell because normally, a townie would just let test continue without going 'OH MY GOD, GUYS WATCH OUT, THIS IS A TEST!!!' Usually, I can tell somethings are reaction tests, but I don't say anything.

Not sure whether I mention this before, but good point.

I know I've got a while until a prod, but I feel like dodging it now

I don't think I have anything useful to say, that hasn't been said by somebody already.

Nononononononononononononononononononononononononnono.

You can't do this, you need to post your thoughts and your reads and vote for whoever you think is scum. You can't just sit there silently and do nothing.

To be honest, you do have a point.

BE, in general, seems like town at the moment.

[Hermy]

I think that's everybody...

[Hermy]

Egg is null. I refuse to put anything other than null for anybody who hasn't posted at least eight times in this thread.

Therefore, all the others who haven't posted much are null too.

Seems like most are null regardless of posting times

Yeah, I know. I was just mentioning that I can't get a good read on people who haven't posted much.

[NicCage]

Lol oh ok Hermy, that's cute. You and BE should hang out.
Bottom line is you guys are just making up stuff to justify voting me.

VOTE: Hermy

[1baldeagle1]

Alright, I'm gonna flat out say this. I can just tell that NicCage is scum. Becuase, Nic is more helpful than this when he's town. But, when he's scum, he's more in the background, just saying some stuff that doesn't really help town a whole lot.

Actually, screwing up a reaction test can be a scumtell because normally, a townie would just let test continue without going 'OH MY GOD, GUYS WATCH OUT, THIS IS A TEST!!!' Usually, I can tell somethings are reaction tests, but I don't say anything.

Goddamn dude, really?

Nice defense there, btw.

Also, Hermy's opening posts are pretty townish, and Nic's vote is bad.

[beastcharizard]

So, guys

I claim IC.

Discuss.

Hm. Reaction test, real IC (if we have one) or scum rolefishing?

Here's a fun question-

If you were scum, which 3 roles would you pick for town to have and why?

Because I feel like answering...

Probably:
2-Shot Vig - There is an extremely tiny chance that they'll hit scum on both goes. Providing they don't die too quickly, they can take out an extra townie or two for the mafia. Of course, it does come with the additional risk of killing a mafia member in the right hands, but it's a risk that I'd be willing to take.
1-Shot cop - The chances of getting scum are pretty small. You'll also have to get the town to believe you. You also have to make a good investigation and announce the results before you die.
Tracker - There are three people to choose from, when it comes to picking who should kill. The odds of the tracker tracking that person would be pretty small. They could also track the vig and possibly get them lynched. Or the cop, if the cop happens to be (extremely) unlucky.

Reasons for roles I wouldn't choose:
IC - If the scum didn't get this person before LyLo then that sucks. And anyway, it's not exactly a very useful p
Jailer - I'd find this way too powerful. They could stop a kill be either blocking somebody they find suspicious, OR going and jailing somebody who they think of as innocent. They COULD stop a vig-kill or a cop but the chances are rather small.

Here's another question-

When forced to claim, do you claim something you know is in the game to out the PR (tracker or JK) or do you claim those not in the game?

Hmm. I'd say probably those not in the game, as that would possibly lead to most roles outing to find a possible liar. Though, on the other hand, there is more of an outing chance when claiming the one in the game. There is also the risk of a lynch, but if you out the jailer then at night your scumbuddies could kill a good power role (of course, the logical thong would be to not claim jailer in the first

to the bold part:
What?! The scum already know the roles the town has so why the heck would they need to fish to find out which one the village has? You are trying to set up a lynch on ns. What about the other person who claimed IC? Why not mention them? Are they your scum scum buddy and you don't want to bus them?

VOTE: Hermy

@eagle:
Can you elaborate more please? I am very interested in what you are saying.

[Hot Cheetos]

Vote: Banakai

NicCage is town.
Eagle is town.
NS is town.
mnem is town.

[Hot Cheetos]

Probably IC, 2-shot Vig, and Tracker.

If scum picked any other roles, they probably fucked up.

[beastcharizard]

Can you tell me why you are voting Banakai?