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How highly do you rate the winner of the tournament, Pokémon R/G/B/Y/FR/LG?

My favorite game!
4
16%
Not my favorite, but top 5.
4
16%
Somewhere between sixth and twelfth.
5
20%
In the bottom half of my top 25.
6
24%
Outside the top 25.
6
24%
 
Total votes: 25

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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:17 am

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Mario Kart: Double Dash!!

Pokemon Stadium
Pokemon Snap

Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:18 am

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MK Wii was only bad if you used a Wiimote. It has the absolute perfect control.

Also, I like hard maps in Mario Kart and MKWii's maps are fustratingly hard.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:30 am

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the only ninetendo systems i played growing up was a wii.. I grew up on a playstation.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:41 am

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ces convinced me to play morrowind when I have time.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:41 am

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I would argue that Mario Kart 64 is the best vidya game ever all things considered.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:50 am

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In post 172, Matias wrote:
In post 167, Porochaz wrote:Those voting mk Wii are life's disappointments.
Excuse me, but with the dreadful handling and subpar courses on double dash, I wholeheartedly disagree.
I agree that 64 is best, but Wii didn't have enough smaller courses, it seemed more broken than the others and my wii wheel was an expensive bit of plastic.

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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:27 pm

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Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins; Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:46 pm

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9. Final Fantasy IV // Final Fantasy VIII
10. Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
11. Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum // Pokémon Snap
12. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island vs. New Super Mario Bros. Wii
13. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
14. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening // The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:36 pm

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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:07 pm

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In post 88, mith wrote:
Pre-Runoff Part 1:


These are series which received multiple nominations spread among different games, with each game receiving a single nomination. The winners will form the first runoff group, for the right to lose to the 1 seed. I expect a lot of passing in this round...

1. Guantlet vs. Gauntlet Dark Legacy
2. Guild Wars vs. Guild Wars 2
3. Heroes of Might and Magic: A Strategic Quest vs. Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Restoration of Erathia vs. Heroes of Might and Magic IV
4. Metroid vs. Metroid Prime
5. SimCity vs. SimCity 2000 vs. SimCity 3000
6. Star Wars: TIE Fighter vs. Star Wars: X-Wing Alliance
7. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 vs. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
8. Unreal Tournament 2004 vs. Unreal Tournament 3
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3. HOMM3, easy.
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5. SimCity 2000
6. XWing
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:14 pm

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Going to make a quick point for Black 2/White 2 here - I don't understand why its not getting the votes. That said, I feel like DPP is the only other Pokemon game that should win, so I can't complain that way. Its just that I think BW2 needs more love.

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I'll admit, the story isn't what we all expected after BW came out with its quite rankly epic story line, but I don't think BW2's storyline is as bad as its been credited as. The rival has a solid reason to go after Team Plasma with you, and its not just "hey, they did bad things!" again. On top of that, I found Hugh's signature "unleashing his rage" line to be hilarious at worst - I loved it. I also enjoyed not having to battle your rival after
every gym badge
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twice
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On the subject of Hugh, he's the first rival with a developing character since Gold, Silver, and Crystal (HG/SS withstanding because remakes of GSC). That is a very long time. Generation 5 also brought one of the biggest game changers (which I'd say is only 2nd to the physical/special split in DPP). Watching him tear through Team Plasma looking for his younger sister's Purrloin gives Hugh a real sense of loyalty and trust, and I found it almost heartbreaking when the Purrloin has not only evolved into Liepard given the time it had taken to find, but it also looked down upon Hugh (which I always took to mean that it downright despised him, making it doubly worse).

Getting to the actual gameplay now, Gen V brought around one of the biggest changes to gameplay (2nd to only DPP's physical/special split, imo), with the addition of Dream World Abilities. What game was the game where you could actively find these abilities without having to connect to the internet and play through what was essentially a hie and go seek simulator? Black and White 2. Given, it was comparatively few Pokemon, but that's what made it even better - there's a
very small chance
to find a Moxie Heracross in White 2. That made it all the better. Toxic Boost Zangoose? I'm in. Multiscale Dragonite? Yes please. Hell, you could get Eevee with its Hidden Ability for a while, which also gives Espeon Magic Bounce, Jolteon Volt Absorb, and Vaporeon Hydration. All of which are great abilities for their respective Eeveelutions.

To top it off, BW2's post-game was where the game really shined. There's so many things to do that you can be entertained all the way up to facing Iris for the 2nd time. The addition of Black Tower/White Treehollow made the post-game training as challenging as the main game was. There was also the ability to get
two
master balls, the entire Regi trio, the lake trio, Cresselia, and you can battle Cheren and Bianca's original teams (albeit with memory link, but memory link is cool enough as it, thanks to the flash backs that helpe set the scene for what happened between BW and BW2).

Tl;dr GIVE BLACK 2 AND WHITE 2 MORE VOTES.


P-edit: You're a bit late zoraster. We're in the next set of runoffs.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:16 pm

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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:18 pm

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ooops. i don't care about any of the games in the current round. mario kart 64 was my favorite of the series anyway.

actually, i'll say Daggerfall because i played so many hours on it. not that i'd enjoy it and its naked women posed in a crouching position on the floor.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:20 pm

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Im not voting for B/W simply because I hate 90% the pokemon designs in it.
The Music is good, N is a good character, definitely. But ultimately it's not really the defining factor for me. I also just enjoyed the region of D/P/P more.

Also you can get multiple masterballs all the way back to G/S/C, you just have to win the lottery! (Not arguing a point, just noting.)
Also in B2/W2 you can get 3 masterballs. (If you include winning the lottery)
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:29 pm

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I had no idea of the 3rd. I'll need to look up on that one...
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:30 pm

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In post 190, animorpherv1 wrote:I had no idea of the 3rd. I'll need to look up on that one...
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Master_Ball

It's probably easier in BW2 to win the lottery, or so I've heard. (I don't think this one is based on trainer IDs?)
The later the generations the more people seem to trade pokemon also so it's not so bad in B/W or in X/Y with wonder trade being a thing.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:01 pm

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In post 174, mith wrote:64 > Double Dash > Wii.
Wrong.

64 > Wii > SNES > Cube

Actually, that's pretty much how I'd rate the systems in general, not just the Mario Kart series.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:04 pm

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Can I anti-vote the entire Final Fantasy series?

Anyone who has played Super Mario Bros. Wii knows it's the best. The Reckoning loves its Super Mario Frustration! =P

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Pokemon Stadium
Super Mario Bros. Wii & Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins
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Link's Awakening & Twilight Princess
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:39 pm

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I specifically voted it in because of The Reckoning.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:40 pm

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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:50 am

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In post 192, Mastermind of Sin wrote:
In post 174, mith wrote:64 > Double Dash > Wii.
Wrong.

64 > Wii > SNES > Cube

Actually, that's pretty much how I'd rate the systems in general, not just the Mario Kart series.
To be fair, I haven't played the Wii version
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much. And I'm with you on the system ratings.

(I like the SNES version, but getting stuck in corners was such a pain in that game. It's definitely at the bottom for me.)
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:14 am

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Link to the spreadsheet is now in the OP, so you can see what the full bracket looks like. The runoff group 3-9 winners have not been assigned to matches yet, as they will be seeded by number of votes. The runoff group 1 winner will face the 1 seed (Portal), while the runoff group 2 winner has been placed as the 43 seed - a gold star to anyone who can figure out why that particular seed.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:14 am

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Breaking the Elder Scrolls tie in favor of Morrowind. I've at least seen it played.

Previous Results:


9.
Final Fantasy IX
d. Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy IV, Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy VIII, and Final Fantasy XIII-2, 5-4-3-2-2-1
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Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
d. Mario Kart Wii, 11-9
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Pokémon Stadium
d. Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, Pokémon Snap, Pokémon Black 2/White 2, Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, and Pokémon Conquest, 10-9-7-3-3-1
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Super Mario Bros.
d. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins and New Super Mario Bros. Wii, 14-9-7-7
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The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
d. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall, 7.1-7-1
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The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
d. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening, The Legend of Zelda, and The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, 9-7-4-3-2

Pre-Runoff, Part 3:


These matches are to determine representatives for series with multiple 1-2 nomination games (and at least one game with 2), but no games already in the bracket. These games will join the remaining 2-nomination sequels to form groups 6-9, while the 2-nomination standalone or series-starting games form groups 3-5. Why groups 6-9 end up with five games instead of the six games in groups 3-5 is left as an exercise to the reader. (There's a non-random reason.)

You may vote for up to two games in match 20 (Sonic). On match 22, the original Defense of the Ancients mod is considered to be included with Warcraft III.

15. Doom vs. Doom II: Hell on Earth
16. Guitar Hero vs. Guitar Hero II vs. Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock
17. Mario Party vs. Mario Party 2 vs. Mario Party 6
18. Persona 3 vs. Persona 4
19. Rayman vs. Rayman Origins vs. Rayman Raving Rabbids
20. Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 vs. Sonic the Hedgehog 3 vs. Sonic & Knuckles vs. Sonic Adventure vs. Sonic Generations
21. The Sims vs. The Sims 2 vs. The Sims 3
22. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos vs. Dota 2
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:18 am

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Doom
Guitar Hero II
Mario Party
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