Mini 1504 - Antihero Mafia REBOOT [GAME OVER]

Antihero · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:14 am

Did someone hammer...? Looking...

Antihero · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:26 am

You go for a man hard enough and fast enough, he don't have time to think about how many's with him; he thinks about himself, and how he might get clear of that wrath that's about to set down on him

-True Grit

Vote Count 1.8

Angry Pidgeon - 3 (EspeciallyTheLies, flying beauties, Varsoon)
Belisarius - 2 (Darthe, JKLM)
JKLM - 4 (Majiffy, Belisarius, Buckwild, Paschendale)
Paschendale - 1 (Lying Cat)
Varsoon - 1 (AngryPidgeon)

Not Voting: Fear and Loading, The Grim Reaper

7 to lynch; deadline is in (expired on 2013-10-22 18:32:12).

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:36 am

In post 759, Varsoon wrote:676 ruins a chance at further reaction from JKLM.
693 adds nothing, but makes it look like Grim is doing something.

Actually on reread, I sort of agree.

I interpreted the QH post to be calling the hammer not "quick" rather a "normal" hammer, but I see your point. I did have to stop and think at that point about what was going on and whether or not there was a hammer.

I actually got fake hammered as scum recently and my reaction was essentially what JKLM did - don't bother to check VCs and assert that I was telling the truth all along. So I don't trust his reaction to it at all.

I definitely agree that Grim's followup served no purpose and I want to know exactly what he glistened from the reactions that prompted him to say that.

Lying Cat · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:49 am

In post 732, AngryPidgeon wrote: This quote still bothers me from LC's iso. Its very pointed and kinda lacks a followup opinion on Splintered which given that Lc is bothering to bring him up is odd.

Do I really need to say that he proved me right? I mean, he

was

too lazy to keep up with the game. And now he's gone, and his replacement will hopefully do better and we can all move on to more important things. Did you expect me to celebrate?

In post 732, AngryPidgeon wrote: Also this is very vague and I can easily see LC simply asserting that Grim is town for 'meta' as scum if he knows Grim is town because Grim likely bother to question why.

Or I could be doing the exact same thing as I did with my Majiffy read. I'm happy to elaborate if you like, but its a waste of time to provide in depth reasoning on a townread. I'm not making a case here, I'm providing transparency for my thought processes.

In case anybody's not super clear on this, I want pasch dead. I'm not flooding the thread with cases because Grim's doing a pretty good job, but if he gets tired and I have time I might.

In post 772, Belisarius wrote: I understand how they work. I'm sure they were very useful scumtactics back in the Punic Wars, but
today
, in 2013, they're just sound and fury, signifying nothing.

The only "evidence" I've seen for this so far was an argument from repetition perpetrated by a bad player who went on to whine that his team let him down in post after they lost.

To continue the metaphor, it's unlikely you know how to use a straight razor either, but that doesn't make it any less effective.

I don't know where AP from ten pages ago is, but whoever replaced him is fast climbing the list. More on that later.

-sthar8

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:00 am

In post 778, Lying Cat wrote:I'm happy to elaborate if you like, but its a waste of time to provide in depth reasoning on a townread.

Not really? If you want to convince people not to lynch a townread of yours it makes sense to explain it. Even if they aren't under immediate pressure. Plus it makes your view of the thread easier to understnad and you easier to read if you explain your townreads.

I guess your reaction felt off re Splintered, but I don't see it as a major point so ok. If misinformation is not an interesting tell either way to you then your response makes sense.

In post 778, Lying Cat wrote:I don't know where AP from ten pages ago is, but whoever replaced him is fast climbing the list. More on that later.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:56 am

Still reading. As a side note, my manager is a dick and we now have to work tomorrow so... Lynch who you guys want as I am nowhere near ready to make any cases and my Saturday morning internet time has now been stolen from me.

JKLM · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:58 am

Why are we talking about my reaction? I said myself it was null if y'all's were smart

Majiffy · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:21 am

In post 714, Buckwild wrote:majiffy: He's my mason partner! He's town, of course!

Goddamnit if you keep talking about it someone is going to catch on!
(someone is the scum in case you didn't catch on)
(hope this helps)

In post 716, Varsoon wrote:JKLM is a terrible wagon that doesn't really get us much further in the game.
Fairly certain the way he reacted to the fake hammer and his claim check out.

No, and no.

In post 716, Varsoon wrote:Fairly certain the way [JKLM] reacted to the fake hammer and his claim check out.

In post 718, Varsoon wrote:If there's not scum between ... and JKLM

I find these positions irreconcilable.

In post 723, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 722, AngryPidgeon wrote:Mollie I'm sking you nicely
Oops, dat SK slip.

Welp, AP is scum.

In post 725, flying beauties wrote:I am so glad we are going to be nked 2night

No its gonna be me and Buck cuz we're masons 4 lyfe <3

In post 767, The Grim Reaper wrote:Varsoon is town. His push on The Grim Reaper slot screams it. Scum has no interest in pushing a slot that nobody was pushing before. Scum has no interest in pushing a slot that's proven to be hyperactive. Pushing active players like us is setting yourself up for a whirlpool of wall-wars and the like, the exact thing I think scum would want to avoid.

This is horrifyingly wrong, but probably a town wrong.

In post 773, flying beauties wrote:you know I find your reaction to this weird, since when we played scum I actively lurked and in nearly every large game that scum have won the scum teams did, indeed, actively lurk.

so your incorrect
and quil has a point.

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

Are you straight-up ignoring my posts in favor of keeping a scum read on me, at this point?

flying beauties · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:30 am

goddammit majiffy

remove majiffy from the scumlist

Majiffy · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:43 am

Go on...

Majiffy · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:48 am

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:02 am

Majiffy, you aren't scum with the derp sisters are you?

Have to check.

Majiffy · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:08 am

Not this go-around.

Buckwild · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:07 am

So let's kill JKLM alreadY?

Darthe · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:29 am

Fine by me at this point. Three votes off is too little pressure anyhow. VOTE: unvote vote JKLM

Varsoon made a good point about Grim in 759 and I like the honest kitty here.

Majiffy · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:30 am

I've been waiting patiently.

The Grim Reaper · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:48 pm

VOTE: JKLM

This head will be unavailable for most of the rest of the weekend.

GG

Paschendale · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:01 am

Good. It's time for a hammer. This will be a very interesting wagon to analyze, regardless of flip.

I'm out of town for the week (October is apparently travel month for me) but I'll try to check in at least once a day.

Majiffy · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:44 am

Phonepoast. Got called for a tech rehearsal, try to get on before I have to sleep. Otherwise, I'll be on tomorrow.

Majiffy · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:44 am

Dont hammer till I get more from Mollie.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:10 am

What are you waiting for from Mollie?

But ok

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:50 am

In post 610, Majiffy wrote:ETL chooses me because we already have a QT together describing ways Majiffy can go fuck himself

Damn, you're good. Chose you without even seeing this.

Update: I'm on page 15 (every fuckin time I get a few more pages further yall post 10 more). Also angrybird, lay off my style. If my bubbly helpful nature is all you can come up with to scumread me when I was all of 4 pages in then I suggest you go back to the newbie queue. <3

Ok, so as of page 14ish or whatever, Grim Reaper's post are really bugging me something fierce. Consider him my top suspect at the moment. I'll clarify and post full reads list as soon as I finish catching up tonight.

On Majiffy v. Flying Beauties: I get good feels from mollie's posts and they remind me of her town games. At first, I was pretty willing to trust her read on Majiffy (and honestly, going in, if she didn't give me scum vibes, I was hoping to get a peg on jiffy from her), except now I kind of feel like she's been tunneling. As far as his alignment goes, I have no fucking clue, but if one of him and angrybird is scum, I think the other would be town only because I don't see scum so openly buddying a partner, and the buddy buddy shit between the two of them is strange to say the least. Both could be town but I

don't

think both could be scum.

Ummmm what else.... that's all for now off the top of my head and I'll have more later.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:56 am

Oh hey there's a VC on this page.

UNVOTE:

Majiffy · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:58 am

In post 795, AngryPidgeon wrote:What are you waiting for from Mollie?

But ok

I want her to

fully and completely

elaborate on why she's

just now

removing me from her scumlist.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:56 am

In post 796, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 610, Majiffy wrote:ETL chooses me because we already have a QT together describing ways Majiffy can go fuck himself

Damn, you're good. Chose you without even seeing this.

Update: I'm on page 15 (every fuckin time I get a few more pages further yall post 10 more). Also angrybird, lay off my style. If my bubbly helpful nature is all you can come up with to scumread me when I was all of 4 pages in then I suggest you go back to the newbie queue. <3

Ok, so as of page 14ish or whatever, Grim Reaper's post are really bugging me something fierce. Consider him my top suspect at the moment. I'll clarify and post full reads list as soon as I finish catching up tonight.

On Majiffy v. Flying Beauties: I get good feels from mollie's posts and they remind me of her town games. At first, I was pretty willing to trust her read on Majiffy (and honestly, going in, if she didn't give me scum vibes, I was hoping to get a peg on jiffy from her), except now I kind of feel like she's been tunneling. As far as his alignment goes, I have no fucking clue, but if one of him and angrybird is scum, I think the other would be town only because I don't see scum so openly buddying a partner, and the buddy buddy shit between the two of them is strange to say the least. Both could be town but I
don't
think both could be scum.

Ummmm what else.... that's all for now off the top of my head and I'll have more later.

This is a p suspicious post there, EtL.

A justification for not posting very much..failing to realize that I thought Splintered was scum before you replaced him and trying to start something petty with me by telling me to go back to the newbie Q (I cried a lot just now, its very distressing).

I dont see where you get this (Majiffy v Beauties) dichotomy from when really its just been Beauties calling me/majiffy scum all game and me/majiffy getting annoyed at them.

Why were you willing to trust Mollie's read on majiffy and what made you decide she was not credible in this particular game?