Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

[Natirasha]

Admittedly, I can't really talk since I'm advocating a policy lynch.

[talah]

If I thought it was policy I wouldn't be voting it.

[Natirasha]

We can have differing reasons for voting the same person.

[DeasVail]

Policy lynches are fine for reasons such as 'this player will continue to prod-dodge all game long and I'll never be able to read them', but when it's along the lines of 'this player is town but bad', I think it's silly.

[Kdub]

Day 1 - Vote Count #54

DrDolittle (0)

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kanyeknowsbest (0)

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Belisarius (0)

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waynegg (0)

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pieguyn (3)

- Empking, Majiffy, AGar

AGar (0)

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PeregrineV (0)

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leviathan93 (0)

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Svenskt Stål (0)

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Empking (0)

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Majiffy (1)

- leviathan93

Pyrotechnics (0)

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Sakura Hana (0)

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NachoKoopa (1)

- DrDolittle

DeasVail (2)

- kanyeknowsbest, waynegg

Wake88 (0)

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ArcAngel9 (9)

- NachoKoopa, Natirasha, Sakura Hana, talah, Pyrotechnics, pieguyn, Svenskt Stål, PeregrineV, Wake88

talah (0)

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Natirasha (0)

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Kalimar (0)

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No lynch (0)

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Not voting (4)

- Belisarius, ArcAngel9, Kalimar, DeasVail

20 votes available
11 votes needed to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-10-23 11:46:30)

[AGar]

Well, hell, where to begin? I don't know diddly about Gundam, but I do have a weird name and stuff. Why not claim our names at least? Probably less than half of us know the names in the Gundam thingy.

Anyways, we got less than four days and we need 11 to break through. SO...

VOTE: ArcAngel9

Oh, and who's leading that wagon and why are people joining it?

What in the actual fuck.

I want to cry.

[waynegg]

Policy lynches are fine for reasons such as 'this player will continue to prod-dodge all game long and I'll never be able to read them', but when it's along the lines of 'this player is town but bad', I think it's silly.

Exactly. That's what Vigilantes are for...

[waynegg]

Well, hell, where to begin? I don't know diddly about Gundam, but I do have a weird name and stuff. Why not claim our names at least? Probably less than half of us know the names in the Gundam thingy.

Anyways, we got less than four days and we need 11 to break through. SO...

VOTE: ArcAngel9

Oh, and who's leading that wagon and why are people joining it?

What in the actual fuck.

I want to cry.

Still need an answer from you...

[Majiffy]

also yah i havent read like the 4 pages before when i started posting again because a lot of it was noise so i didnt know how accurate my statement was. ioll have to actually look @ what some of yall are sayin i guess. i was rly hoping someone would summarize their stance nicely and concisely 4 me tho.

>Pie was a scumbutt
>We pressured pie
>Pie claimed vig with a dubious breadcrumb, started making inane theories about why I'm scum based on his dubious breadcrumb
>Shut down all his arguments
>Retroactively changes his arguments, continues to be a little scumbutt
>Secondary vig claim, of which I see town motivation and a much more believable breadcrumb
>Theory supports second vig being legitimate and first vig unlikely

Theres the tl;dr.

i thought all you needed was to highlight.

Not when you're mobile browsing.

But I really can't see Majiffy being town

Can't see much of anything, then, I reckon.

[Majiffy's] extremely weak arguments

Pray tell, which arguments are weak, and why?

[NachoKoopa]

I want you to thoroughly elaborate on this with quotes

and links.

There's nothing more graceful than quotestripes.

Yes but D1 policy lynches are the worst kind of policy lynches

Hmmm?

If we PL day 1 WITH by my count 6 claims and 1 dead body, I'm going to either cry, fly into a murderous rage, or dive into a pit of hypodermic needles. Seriously, this is just. so. god. damned. stupid. Seriously. DEAR GOD PEOPLE.

It's not a policy lynch for me. I'm guessing Arc is gonna show up in two or so days with a claim and how she's been lurking but that doesn't make her scum and then we can lynch her happily.

btw some1 who knows seed flavor pls can u tell me what you expect the different factions (assume multiball or at the very least a powerful 3rd party element) in this game to be given the rolename claims/fakeclaims that have been presented thus far?

Federation/Orb/Three Ships, ZAFT/PLANT, Blue Cosmos

[NachoKoopa]

Meanwhile, you're voting a claimed watcher that you should by any reasonable measure be reading as town by now.

This is where you started to become very town to me. I liked the push on me here in order to read you as town; I find as scum you usually maintain that you're obvtown from the very beginning, but here you brought that up after you had been continuously pushing on pieguy and inferred that you used the one-shot watcher claim as a an ace in the hole in order to help pie get lynched faster (so you could be considered town and then everyone pushing on you could move on). I don't think you'd go balls-out for the D1 lynch as scum but that's pretty much what you're going for here.

In case you flip town, I'm going to mock you with this in the future.

"We should leave this really scummy player with a kill alive so that he can make anti-town kills before we decide to lynch him like we had every opportunity to do on d1"

This post was good for obvious reasons.

I mean the idea that ScumKali decided to pop in with a huge wagon on him, shoot a townie off his wagon claiming to be aiming for scum and to slow his wagon down, and then return to his same behavior that started the wagon on him in the first place is just about if not more insane than the theory that I saw pie's vig crumb and pushed him to get him lynched instead of just killing him at night.

It's just baffling how retarded this site has gotten with the evil criminal mastermind theories.

This is a lot better than your "choose a random player to white knight and white knight them" reasoning that you usually have as scum.

Actually still have (3) scumreads.

This is weird for you but it's weird in a town way; I can't imagine you as scum in such a large game refusing to expand your lynch pool/hide behind your usually large lynch pools even if you were going for the "tunnel the fuck out of this player and make him die" shtick. I also think that you try to stay as close to your town meta as possible as scum, but this is a strong difference.

Heck you can even use your watch on pieguy so you confirm if anyone attempted anything on him, and if he's NK you caught scum, if you're NK'd... that'd be great actually.

If I use my watch on Pie then he can kill ME and claim he was redirected.

Herp a fucking derp you're not so good at this, are you?

This paranoia comes more from town-Jiffy than scum-Jiffy. Scum-Jiffy's probably gonna be alive tomorrow so there's no reason prepping for the next day when all that's gonna do is fuel the "why are you still alive?" questions three nights down the road.

[Majiffy]

I'm satisfied.

You've finally earned a town read. Now vote pie.

[Majiffy]

Also be more active.

But first vote pie.

[Wake1]

Hello everyone. I'm new to this game, and I hope you'll be patient with me as I try to grapple with the history of this thread. I don't know what's been said two pages back, or what my predecessor, Matias, has said or done. The flavor is basically alien territory, too. My vote's on AA9 because we need information. I'll be the first to admit that I haven't even read his/her ISO.

AGar, you should calm down a bit. The reason why some people are roleclaiming is because they alone know what roles and names pertain to this game. When a person claims with an ability and a specific Gundam-related name, and that person doesn't know squat about Gundam, it might be reasonable to believe that person a little bit more. On the flip side, if Scum believes you they're gonna come after you. So, mine is specific and not listed in the OP, so I'm thinking of claiming in full so we have something more to work with. If you don't think it's wise, please tell me why in your own words.

At this point I don't know enough about the surrounding players to give proper reads. When I can I'll be back and try to give more serious contribution.

[Majiffy]

I feel like I've played with you before but a scan of your threads says I haven't.

This is going to bother me.

[Majiffy]

And for the love of god, do not fucking claim.

[Wake1]

And for the love of god, do not fucking claim.

Why, please?

If I've read correctly, six others have done so already.

What's your thoughts on the possible setup of this game?

[Majiffy]

Because 5/6 other claims were fucking unprompted and, as a general rule, everyone claiming helps scum massively and helps town marginally, if at all.

[Majiffy]

My thoughts are 2 scum teams / 2 scum teams and an SK / scum team and an SK
With a heavy littering of mostly x-shot town PRs.

[Wake1]

Do you suspect this game includes abilities that activate every other Night/Day?

[Majiffy]

Like even/odd night PRs? Not out of the realm of possibilities. I generally rank those in the same power level as x-shot PRs when I'm balancing my own setups.

Frankly, setup-spec isn't going to help us much with just a VT flip.

[talah]

I've got to go to work but I can't help it.

Here's the tl;dr of your argument for pie being scum as I see it:

>Scummy wallposting
>pie's a little scumbutt
>vote pie
>can't be two town aligned vigs and kalimar's defo town
>pie's a little scumbutt
>vote pie

And this is pretty much all of it, despite spamming up a range of 20 or so pages "scumhunting" on him and having both waynegg and AGar supporting your every post during that time and not expanding on your arguments. In fact all three of you seem to have completely forgotten what your arguments were to begin with, in favour of latching onto a complete and utter wrong, being that he's gotta be scum because kalimar just daykilled.

I mean if you think pie's an SK, just say that, but it's totally ridiculous to think that pie-scum is going to claim vig as scum, and if SK, then has pretty much lost too. And really, with a max of what? four votes? there's really not even a reason for pie to have claimed vig as anything but town vig.

Also I thought your claim was scummy at the time it came and the fact it was a fullclaim, and the fact you request a prot, and the fact it's watcher, of all the stupid things.

ed: ^@Majiffy

[Wake1]

Like even/odd night PRs? Not out of the realm of possibilities. I generally rank those in the same power level as x-shot PRs when I'm balancing my own setups.

Frankly, setup-spec isn't going to help us much with just a VT flip.

Considering I just got here, and assuming you're Town, is there anything you think I should know, please?

[Majiffy]

If you think I didn't expand on my arguments then you didn't read the "20 or so" pages of "spam". Which would explain why you think they're spam, and also why you aren't voting pie.

Piescum has relatively little to do with Kalimar killing someone. That's just an additional factor.

Also I thought your claim was scummy at the time it came and the fact it was a fullclaim, and the fact you request a prot, and the fact it's watcher, of all the stupid things.

I'll wait while you explain why

any

of this is scummy.

[Majiffy]

Considering I just got here, and assuming you're Town, is there anything you think I should know, please?

Yes. Pie is obvscum and you should be voting him. AA9 wagon is a borderline lurker lynch/policy lynch that is being pushed by scumbutts as a counterwagon to the pressure on pie.

All of this is empirical fact and is checkable in the game thread.