Mini 1504 - Antihero Mafia REBOOT [GAME OVER]

[Antihero]

JKLM - Tony Soprano, Vanilla Townie - has been lynched!

It is now Night 1. I'll be taking actions for the next (expired on 2013-10-22 13:15:56).

[Antihero]

Fear and Loading - Daniel Plainview, Vanilla Townie - has been killed!

It is now Day 2. With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2013-11-05 13:23:03).

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I'M NOT READYYY.....

On page 23. Mollie-angel still my top town read. Varsoon has eclipsed grim in scummyfuckscumminess. Darthe also not high on the town list (quite low actually) due to useless posts and not enough active hunting. Most others are null/require ISO (which I have been putting off until I finish thread). Though.. i like lying cat and pasch for townish right now based on good conversation about their reads and discussing with others openly.

More to come later tonight.

[The Grim Reaper]

How is it taking you this long to read the thread?!?

Could you explain your pasch town read

~G

[Varsoon]

Welp.
VOTE: AP

[EspeciallyTheLies]

How is it taking you this long to read the thread?!?

Could you explain your pasch town read

~G

lol... because I replaced into about 5 games, am getting ready to mod 2, and boss pulled some last minute mandatory overtime bullshit so i have less time than i expected. But once i'm all caught up it will be fine.

For pasch, it was more about the motivation behind the questions he (she?) was asking on d1, or at least, perceived motivation. I dont agree with all of his reads but i understand the thinking behind them because he took the time to explain himself. I would say my reads on pasch and lying cat are more gut, but its good.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Also minecraft. I have a problem.

[Majiffy]

Welp.
VOTE: AP

y

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Welp.
VOTE: AP

y

Bcz scumz jiffylube.

[flying beauties]

this is who fear and loading were sus of:

varsoon
beli
pasch
ap

eta: @ etl - if you think he is scum then why are you not voting him?

[Majiffy]

Welp.
VOTE: AP

y

Bcz scumz jiffylube.

buh y

[EspeciallyTheLies]

this is who fear and loading were sus of:

varsoon
beli
pasch
ap

eta: @ etl - if you think he is scum then why are you not voting him?

Cuz I want the whole picture first. There may be something between page 24 and end of D1 that could help me understand the slot better, and I wanna get some ISOs done on a couple people first. I don't wanna waste my time putting a case together when I don't have all the info, and I'd rather vote when I have a case.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Welp.
VOTE: AP

y

Bcz scumz jiffylube.

buh y

I'll let Varscum answer this, though I don't expect much since he doesn't have a good history of actually explaining anything.

[flying beauties]

Welp.
VOTE: AP

y

Bcz scumz jiffylube.

buh y

I'll let Varscum answer this, though I don't expect much since he doesn't have a good history of actually explaining anything.

if you would rather wait to get the whole picture to see if a case is warranted then why are you blatantly pushing varsoon as scum?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Sorry. That wasn't actually my intention, but that is increasingly becoming my opinion thus far.

By the by, just reached Grim's 638 fairy tale on page 26. I pride myself on reading every single word and rereading until I get it... cuz I'm slow sometimes... but I'm not reading that.

[Grimgroove]

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Grim, why don't you give me the cliff's notes version?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I DID IT GAIZ. I finished the thread <3<3<3

Now on to business. >:(

Varsoon:

His attitude this game has been apathetic, pitiful, and full of AtE. He has called himself out for being useless as if that somehow negates any suspicion it might cause. He tries to excuse it all away with "I'm busy" and "I'm lame", and expects to be given a pass (which he was). I get that people get busy and life gets in the way, but to that end, I also believe every player has an obligation to the other players to allow someone who is able to put effort into the game do so. But he doesn't. So, either he's extremely inconsiderate and selfish town, or he's scum using "RL" to excuse his blatant uselessness.

Spoiler: Reasons why Varsoon cannot give evidence, support his "reads", explain his votes

Gonna spend more time with this when I get a moment.

@PASHCE:

I'm not cautious, just belligerent and busy.

@FLYING BEAUTIES:

Yo, Mollie, I don't quite like your appeal to ethos in 222. I've been skeptical of you for this whole game, but that's because I'm -always- skeptical of you. How do you feel about AP, and what insight can you give me about how your hydra partner plays?

-V

(What I found interesting about this one is that he didn't even mention angelmollie until the above post.)

Then again, maybe I need to sit down with this game, look over all the posts, and stew with it for awhile before hitting the submit button here.
Nah.

Guess I'll have to get in here and do some work soon.

I'm not doing my best, that's for sure.

I'm pretty busy now, but I'll try to post something worthwhile later today.

@Grim: I'll elaborate a bit more when I get some time to do so.

However, the biggest reason I believe Varsoon is scum is the way he acted towards the end of JKLM's lynch.

Spoiler: Varsoon calls JKLM townscumtownscumtownscumtown

JKLM is a terrible wagon that doesn't really get us much further in the game.

<snip>
Why should I be on the JKLM wagon when all my biggest scum-reads are pushing it the hardest?

Here he says JKLM is a bad wagon. Why would a wagon on scum (or what people thought was scum) be bad? Unless you knew he was town.

If there's not scum between Grim, FlyBeau, Beli, and JKLM, then the scum's already won.

Except at the time of the above post here, the JKLM wagon was gonna go through, and you knew that. So, better change tune, right? "JKLM is scum!"

Angry pidgeon is scum.
Beli is scum. That's all I'm sure of.

Angry is scum because look at who he thinks is scum: me, varsoon, and NEARLY EVERYONE ELSE. Scum trying to leave mislynched open.


Please don't let them discredit me tomorrow. Don't underestimate me ever, Beli is scum for sure. (I'm just really bad at presentation)

You all ready to eat your foot? Not really, it isn't your guys fault for the mislynch, it's really mine, a don't need to tell me that, so yay.

Good luck town. This is a tough list of people.

I tried, JKLM.
I really did.

It was really obvious from your play so far that you're town.
Reads list, bro?

OH no wait, JKLM is town again!

But, AP, the problem with your lists is that
You have had JKLM as scum for awhile

(he probably isn't).

You have me as scum (I definitely am not).

Bold pinged me so hard. I don't know that I've ever heard this from town or said this myself (except as scum). :/

VOTE: Varsoon

P-edit: I had started with the currently living player list, and Varsoon was at the top, so I'm making this a single post, and the rest in another.

[Paschendale]

I'm actually slightly relieved to know about FnL. I had gut problems with him. All sorts of conflicting reads.

I like EtL's points on Varsoon very much. Especially that, despite his objections to the JKLM wagon, he stayed on it.

VOTE: Varsoon

[The Grim Reaper]

I'm actually slightly relieved to know about FnL. I had gut problems with him. All sorts of conflicting reads.

I like EtL's points on Varsoon very much.

Especially that, despite his objections to the JKLM wagon, he stayed on it.

VOTE: Varsoon

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Grim I find it hard to believe you don't understand what pasch just said....

[The Grim Reaper]

He never was on the JKLM wagon....

[EspeciallyTheLies]

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I suppose it is only fitting you did not read my post, since I didn't read your fairy tale.

[The Grim Reaper]

no I did read your post. its a good argument.

however you are now confusing me.

Pasch is saying that despite varsoon's objections of the wagon he stayed on the wagon right? Varsoon was never on the JKLM wagon??

~G