Mini 1504 - Antihero Mafia REBOOT [GAME OVER]

[flying beauties]

It doesn't matter because what I see happening is "Oh he's my friend. He's town. That guy's my friend too, so he is also town." What I see happening is, "Look, ETL is inexperienced. She doesn't know how to defend herself. She'd be easy to lynch." That's what I see.

I'm fucking sick of it. I'm fucking goddamn sick of it.

you are not on the menu for today!

it will be okay, mebbe

[EspeciallyTheLies]

not the point!!! I don't care if I die but you are following the wrong people down a bad bad rabbit hole!

[flying beauties]

and mastin is still avoiding me

[The Grim Reaper]

It doesn't matter because what I see happening is "Oh he's my friend. He's town. That guy's my friend too, so he is also town." What I see happening is, "Look, ETL is inexperienced. She doesn't know how to defend herself. She'd be easy to lynch." That's what I see.

I'm fucking sick of it. I'm fucking goddamn sick of it.

An uncalled for AtE. I can see where the frustration comes from though. Right now, it feels like you're just going to have to wait for the town-axe to fall on your head in what? Two gameDays? Can't be fun.

But there's no consensus on your slot yet. My other head still thinks you're town apparently. So you still have a fighting chance.

Let's talk! You can defend yourself and see where that gets us. And don't go all weepy on me!

Let's talk about the start of Day 2. Remember that covnersation, with Paschendale bringing up the argument "Varsoon staying on the JKLM wagon despite his reservations"? You promptly defended this argument. Yet Guyett showed it was invalid.
Then you made a mistake, which think was a scummy one: you stood by that argument, and went into a semantic argument about wat "wagons" are.
Can you link me to a completed game where you refer to a "wagon" in the way you did in this game?

GG

[mastin2]

Not to mention the fact that you have zero completed games with me, have no meta on me, and have no idea how I play town OR scum. I don't like being lumped in with AP and pasch when I have nothing to do with either of them, and like grim, I feel you are just setting me up for a mislynch when it becomes convenient for you.

Thing is, my read on you has nothing to do with you. (And screw meta. It's unreliable without extensive experience anyway.) It has to do with your predecessor and all the scummy things they did. (Which is, a ton.) Their bad interactions, and bad interactions with them.

"I can't defend against that!"

Then why are you attacking Varsoon after Thor's in that slot? He can't defend against that, either, now, can he?

...My point exactly.

But your posting is not town, either. And it's "having nothing to do with either of them" which specifically makes YOUR interactions scummy-as-hell with them; you keep them away from being solid reads one way or another, weakly defending both but not sticking your foot in the sand to defend them. Your pushes are bad. Your predecessor's slot was also bad. Both have bad interactions.

AND EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T, I have enough townreads in this game to go all POE on ya.

[mastin2]

On a scale of 1 to fire bomb rope death, how sure are you of this?

Much as I would love to have it be fire bomb rope death, it's more like a 9.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Let's talk about the start of Day 2. Remember that covnersation, with Paschendale bringing up the argument "Varsoon staying on the JKLM wagon despite his reservations"? You promptly defended this argument. Yet Guyett showed it was invalid.
Then you made a mistake, which think was a scummy one: you stood by that argument, and went into a semantic argument about wat "wagons" are.
Can you link me to a completed game where you refer to a "wagon" in the way you did in this game?

I don't think I was understanding what was being argued, grim, and I admitted that when we talked about it then, as well as when Thor explained the thing with the scum list, not to mention at the time I was under the impression that Varsoon HAD voted for JKLM. I stood by the argument that I understood at the time. Does that make sense?

[mastin2]

Also,

I quote your granddad's posts.
I look incredible.

That song's going to be stuck in my head for hours, now. >_<

[Majiffy]

THAT IS NOT THE POINT. It's about setting up future mislynches. If I'm getting put on some fast track for days ahead, what other townies are too? Do you get what I am saying???

If Pasch and AP are both scum, a mislynch or two isn't going to hurt us.

[Majiffy]

I quote your granddad's posts.
I look incredible.

That song's going to be stuck in my head for hours, now. >_<

Damn, that's one cold ass 'Jiffy!

[flying beauties]

and mastin is still avoiding me

[mastin2]

Mastin shut the fuck up about how "obviously town FnL" was because that's useless information. Respond and tell me why you are being dense?!!?

You're putting a lot of words into my mouth, by the way. I wasn't quoting why FnL was obvtown.

Quite frankly, they weren't any more obvtown than some other players.

I was quoting why they were

nightkilled

.

As in, NKA. Why they died. For damn-good reads.

I'm not being dense, here. It's pure and simple. I have damn-good townreads. I have damn-good scumreads. It's not picture-perfect (because any real scumteam never will be), but it's a damn-good coherent picture. Pasch is scum. AP is scum. And you are their scumbuddy.

You might not like the reasons I have caught you. But you're acting like caught scum.

[Majiffy]

I'm gonna type some tags.
Only got one VOTE: in my pocket.
I'm huntin', lookin' for a scummah',
This is fucking awesomeeee

[mastin2]

@mastin: What does MVP stand for and why are we not it?

Most valuable player, and I take it back; you two are a candidate for it.

[flying beauties]

and mastin is still avoiding me

[Majiffy]

and mastin is still avoiding me

Girls, you're both pretty.

Speaking of plural, where the fuck has AA9 been?

[mastin2]

mastin in all of your 500 million posts you are not interacting with me comfortably. why is that

You haven't been around.

I quoted a post where I basically say you were a NK candidate; that good enough?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Uh. Mastin, you are full of shit.

I changed my vote to Darthe because he became more important of a lead than Thor. As well, I have thought Pasch was town for a long fucking while, and have said as much. You are basing your read on what other people think of me and that is fucking stupid.

Lemme ask you this: If you are so on the money, and I'm scum with pasch and AP, don't you think I'd hammer pasch the moment you start flapping your face to shut you the fuck up? Jesus. It's like you aren't even thinking.

Yep. You're totally right. Scum would totally act like this when they get caught.

Why don't you lynch me now then? What's stopping you?

[The Grim Reaper]

But you're acting like caught scum.

I'm not sure. I think it looks a bit like frustrated town...
~G

[mastin2]

You are a fucking moron. You are basing a read on me on how others are reading me, my fucking life schedule, and my predecessor's idiotic playstyle. That is complete and utter fucking idiocy.

Again with the putting words in my mouth, here. Insulting my intelligence is generally not a good way to make me think better of you, either, considering that I'm a decent player. Not solid, mind you. I'm only upper-mediocre. But upper-mediocre is apparently good enough. My read on you has nothing to do with how others read you. Well, aside from the nightkill target. (Which, hell yes, influences my read.) It might be strengthened by players I think to be town backing me up, but its basis is not on that. But on the overall picture.

You're not scum for any one factor. You're scum for the grand total combination of all the factors. Your predecessor's scummy posts. (And, no, writing them off as being idiotic won't work. They weren't idiotic. Quite the opposite--they looked brilliant. They look town when looking at things superficially. But they look like they had scum intent.) Your predecessor's interactions with others. Others' interactions with your predecessor. (Interactions, not reads. Reads are a type of interaction.) And then you. Your interactions. Your posts. For instance, you're calling me without-a-doubt-town, off of basically nothing. Why can't I be scum pushing for a mislynch on you? My point exactly.

Combined with POE. The townreads I have on others. My scumdar is admittedly not solid. My town radar is far, FAR more refined. I have a solid list of town players, and your name is outside of it. Even IF I didn't have ALL of the above, that ALONE would be enough to scumread you. With all of the above, it just seals the deal.

You're caught scum. You don't like my reasons for you being caught scum. But you ARE.

[mastin2]

Also,

P-edit: Fuck you mastin and your scumbuddy grim.

Majiffy's my scumbuddy, not Grim.

[mastin2]

I'm slightly uncomfortable with the current votecount. Like all of the town voting for two of the scum with not one bit of bussing?

With AP on their scumteam?

Hell yeah.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

PLEASE FUCKING QUOTE ME WHERE I SAID YOU WERE WITHOUT A DOUBT TOWN YOU PIECE OF SHIT FUCKHEAD.

I SAID BUCK WAS LIKELY TOWN BUT I WASN'T SURE. WHICH WAS AND IS TRUE. I SAID I WANTED TO SEE WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY TO MAKE THE SLOT MORE READABLE. ALSO TRUE. I FELT LIKE YOUR POSTS CAME FROM A TOWN POV. ALSO TRUE. I SAID I PUT YOU IN THE TOWN PILE. AND NOW I'M SCUM FOR THAT.

WELL FUCK YOU IN THE FUCKING FACE. I DONT CARE IF YOU ARE TOWN OR SCUM. YOU CAN FUCK OFF.

VOTE: mastin

[mastin2]

@mastin: hydra: we'll talk!

Something involving necromancy would be awesome.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

also your "towndar" is fucking broken. you should probably get that checked.

0 FOR 2 MASTIN. 0 FOR 2. I HAVE REASONS TO CALL YOU STUPID.