Mini 1504 - Antihero Mafia REBOOT [GAME OVER]

[Majiffy]

After AP. Because AP is more likely to wiggle his way out of a lynch.

Which I've said like 20 fucking times.

[Majiffy]

Now that you've had your moment in the spotlight, fucking vote AP because you're annoying the shit out of me.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

-.- You're mean.

[The Grim Reaper]

And given the difficulty we're already encountering now, Majiffy obviously had a good point. We need to lynch Angry Pidgeon today.

GG

[Majiffy]

No, I'm tired, and tired of waiting.

Now I'm going to sleep. If I get home tomorrow and AP isn't flipped, I am going to turn big and green and you're all not going to like me very much.

[The Grim Reaper]

Those still in doubt concerning AP: read again starting from post: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5404878 .

It's the interactions following that that completely sealed the deal for me on AP being scum, and I should expect it will do so for everyone possessing a brain.

GG

[Darthe]

If this game was only a bit quicker.

Love watching ETL interact though. I don't see his point against mastin as a point against mastin tbh.

[flying beauties]

If anyone deserves credit for the Angry Pidgeon-lynch that is about to happen it's me. flying beauties may have picked up on it first, but for the wrong reasons that would never have convinced anyone.

I AM THE BEST.

ME.


-Guyett

just because you do not understand the reasons does not mean they are wrong, that is like mafia 101. it is meta read and the only counterargument you could make is "I don't have experience with him" so

[flying beauties]

This is ridiculous.

Jiffy, you have no reason to town read him. Your mason stuff is stupid. Stop trying to get me to vote people I don't think are scum. Makes me think you are scum. And anyway, I'd lynch pasch over AP if I was forced to choose between them. He made a lot of good points D1 and I see more contradictions in Pasch's ISO than his.

okay I am going to try to wrap my head around this.

masons are confirmed town to each other. majiffy towntelled and I believe the claim. so if you have 1 as scum, you have to have them both as scum.

ap before pasch cos head before ass and all

[Thor665]

Show me where I'm claiming the AP wagon as mine.

And because AP is more of a danger than Pasch and I'm still alive now so I want him sorted.

1. You did when you suggested your death would derail it as though you were somehow the ramrod when majiffy was blatantly the real ramrod.

2. Okay, on a theoretical he is more "dangerous". Now, who is more likely scum?

Those still in doubt concerning AP: read again starting from post: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5404878 .

It's the interactions following that that completely sealed the deal for me on AP being scum, and I should expect it will do so for everyone possessing a brain.

GG

I glazed over instantly on it, but will be willing to hand you that it makes him look scummy.
That said, are you seriously finding that a larger torch than what Pasch has been up to?

[Thor665]

This is ridiculous.

Jiffy, you have no reason to town read him. Your mason stuff is stupid. Stop trying to get me to vote people I don't think are scum. Makes me think you are scum. And anyway, I'd lynch pasch over AP if I was forced to choose between them. He made a lot of good points D1 and I see more contradictions in Pasch's ISO than his.

okay I am going to try to wrap my head around this.

masons are confirmed town to each other. majiffy towntelled and I believe the claim. so if you have 1 as scum, you have to have them both as scum.

ap before pasch cos head before Smurf and all

Wait, are people taking the Mason thing seriously?
As in, either of you?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

No. I am not. I said it was stupid.

[flying beauties]

Show me where I'm claiming the AP wagon as mine.

And because AP is more of a danger than Pasch and I'm still alive now so I want him sorted.

1. You did when you suggested your death would derail it as though you were somehow the ramrod when majiffy was blatantly the real ramrod.

2. Okay, on a theoretical he is more "dangerous". Now, who is more likely scum?

Those still in doubt concerning AP: read again starting from post: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5404878 .

It's the interactions following that that completely sealed the deal for me on AP being scum, and I should expect it will do so for everyone possessing a brain.

GG

I glazed over instantly on it, but will be willing to hand you that it makes him look scummy.
That said, are you seriously finding that a larger torch than what Pasch has been up to?

1. that isn't owning the wagon that is saying if he dies there will be 1 less (loud) townie to push that wagon and ap is very good at slipping through the noose
2. why are you treating the 2 as mutually exclusive when we are clearly not? that is a terrible way to break down an argument.

[flying beauties]

This is ridiculous.

Jiffy, you have no reason to town read him. Your mason stuff is stupid. Stop trying to get me to vote people I don't think are scum. Makes me think you are scum. And anyway, I'd lynch pasch over AP if I was forced to choose between them. He made a lot of good points D1 and I see more contradictions in Pasch's ISO than his.

okay I am going to try to wrap my head around this.

masons are confirmed town to each other. majiffy towntelled and I believe the claim. so if you have 1 as scum, you have to have them both as scum.

ap before pasch cos head before Smurf and all

Wait, are people taking the Mason thing seriously?
As in, either of you?

I didn't until today.

[Thor665]

1. that isn't owning the wagon that is saying if he dies there will be 1 less (loud) townie to push that wagon and ap is very good at slipping through the noose
2. why are you treating the 2 as mutually exclusive when we are clearly not? that is a terrible way to break down an argument.

1. Yeah, but that's not what he said.

2. Why are you acting like, connected or not, somehow AP needs to go first if you don't think he's the more likely scum? And if you think they're both scum, no worries about it - then why sweat AP going first even if he is "dangerous" because, let me assure you, scum could double tap both Majiffy *and* Mastin tonight, and if Pasch flipped scum then AP would still be lynched tomorrow, so...?

I didn't until today.

This begs for explanation.

[flying beauties]

1. that isn't owning the wagon that is saying if he dies there will be 1 less (loud) townie to push that wagon and ap is very good at slipping through the noose
2. why are you treating the 2 as mutually exclusive when we are clearly not? that is a terrible way to break down an argument.

1. Yeah, but that's not what he said.

2. Why are you acting like, connected or not, somehow AP needs to go first if you don't think he's the more likely scum? And if you think they're both scum, no worries about it - then why sweat AP going first even if he is "dangerous" because, let me assure you, scum could double tap both Majiffy *and* Mastin tonight, and if Pasch flipped scum then AP would still be lynched tomorrow, so...?

I didn't until today.

This begs for explanation.

1. that is what i got out of it
2. 2 scumreads, head before the ass. get rid of the player you think is more dangerous and least likely to be lynched in order to clear the pathway for a town win.

majiffy and mastin are

treating

each other as masons you would have to be a dummy to miss it. and majiffy towntelled.

[Antihero]

Jack Bauer: I wish you hadn't called for backup.
Jessie Hampton: Why?
Jack Bauer: Because cops have to play by the rules. I may have to break a few with this guy.

-24

Vote Count 2.6

AngryPidgeon - 4 (mastin2, flying beauties, Majiffy, The Grim Reaper)
mastin2 - 1 (AngryPidgeon)
Paschendale - 4 (Darthe, Lying Cat, Thor665, Belisarius)
Thor665 - 1 (Paschendale)

Not Voting: EspeciallyTheLies

6 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2013-11-05 13:23:03).

[Thor665]

majiffy and mastin are treating each other as masons you would have to be a dummy to miss it. and majiffy towntelled.

I see Majiffy doing it.
I don't see mastin doing it.

Your head before Smurf point remains silly. Which is more likely scum? If both are even - then you can debate the head thing...except you have failed to show why he's sooooo dangerous.
Your argument appears to be based on "he'd be hard to lynch"
Hey, look, I'm trying to lynch Pasch and it's being hard - huuuuuur.

Silly argument is silly.
i think Pasch is more likely to be scum than AP who might just be playing terribly.
Let's lynch Pasch.

[Thor665]

Oooh, and if you want a second one, here it is.
If AP was setting up to bus Pasch he got cold feet when it actually happened. Which suggests Pasch is of some value besides just being a goon.
Huuuuur.

Whassup?

[Thor665]

Even look at the vote count.
Literally ALL FOUR people voting AP claim Pasch is scum.

Which means we could have Pasch at L-1 with a hammer intent RIGHT NOW.
And you guys are avoiding doing that.
Because...
Danger is AP

[flying beauties]

Even look at the vote count.
Literally ALL FOUR people voting AP claim Pasch is scum.

Which means we could have Pasch at L-1 with a hammer intent RIGHT NOW.
And you guys are avoiding doing that.
Because...
Danger is AP

are you town reading ap?

[Thor665]

Not particularly.
Neither am I drastically scum reading him.

I find his current play annoying and leaning scum probably in the grand scheme, but I find Pasch far worse.
Wanna vote Pasch now?

[The Grim Reaper]

Put your vote on Angry Pidgeon Thor.
He said he was going to claim at L-1, let him, and see if it adds up in any way with him insisting on "living at least one more day".

You don't seriously expect us to move our votes from this wagon with what your repeated implorations.
Paschendale may be scummier according to you, at this point both AP and Paschendale are so close to confscum their differences in scumminess are arbitrary at best.
The question at this point is not why you are preferring a Paschendale wagon so much, the question beomes: why are you opposing an Angry Pidgeon wagon, considering you obviously find him scummy, and people on his wagon town?

That Paschendale wagon WILL happen. Just not today.

Stop worrying over that and vote Angry Pidgeon. If you won't, someone else will have to because currently you're looking at a block of town sitting on AP's wagon that will not budge.

GG

[Thor665]

You make a lot of odd presumptions about my reads in that argument.

Also, if I flip the stuff that doesn't involve your presumptions about my reads then the logic applies equally well to you shifting to Pasch as it does for me shifting to AP - even better since you seem to legit feel they are identical in scumminess.

So, literally, all you've got is "let's force a claim because I think he softclaimed something and want to know what it is"
Is that really the core goal here?
And if so, why does a claim today make a difference than, say, a claim tomorrow?

[The Grim Reaper]

The core goal is to get him lynched. I see the bullshit-claim he'll have to come up with as another instrument in the making to expediate his lynch.

The argument has been made numerous times: while Angry Pidgeon is equally scummy, the situation today makes it clear that he's still got some wiggle room, for God knows what reason. More people still seem to be willing to consider him possibly town, so he's got an angle. For me, my personal perception, yes, Angry Pidgeon and Paschendale are equally scummy. For the group, no, while almost everyone now agrees Paschendale is scum, this is not the case for AP.

There is NO way Paschendale does not get lynched in this game. Unless town's got a vigilante doing that inevitable job for us.

Therefor a select few have made it their mission to lynch Angry Pidgeon first, before he gets a firmer grip on those people still not convinced he's scum.

GG