Open 533: Pick Your Poison - The End

[notscience]

Yeah, no. PL or FR him. Don't care which.

[YellowKingValley]

Yeah, no. PL or FR him. Don't care which.

You are just butthurt that I call you scum. Instead of doing a ETL to call me scum, you advocated town-VI-PL instead. Such genius!

I think you are but not that . Perhaps you are more as scum?

[notscience]

You are just butthurt that I call you scum. Instead of doing a ETL to call me scum, you advocated town-VI-PL instead. Such genius!

No, I don't want someone this fucking daft in LyLo.

As of this post, I'm only prod dodging unless YKV is lynched.

[Kalimar]

Vote Count 2.3

(2)

NicCage

: Venrob, Hermy
(2)

YellowKingValley

: notscience, EspeciallyTheLies
(1)

Hermy

: YES YES YES
(1)

Hot Cheetos

: YellowKingValley
(1)

beastcharizard

: Egg
(1)

EspeciallyTheLies

: beastcharizard

Not Voting:

mnemonicdevice, Hot Cheetos, NicCage

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2013-11-06 21:30:00)

Mod Notes: YES YES YES about to be prodded.

[Hot Cheetos]

notscience, cut this out. Lynching a cop innocent is probably the worst move that we could possibly make (outside of lynching the one-shot cop). Stop it, please.

[Egg]

Egg where do you get the idea that this is a policy lynch? We're not lynching him for reasons beyond his game-play and involvement therein.

You guys were saying either he's scum or he's town who is gonna fuck up LYLO. The definition of a policy lynch is lynching someone while accepting that they might be town because their town play could be detrimental to the town. I fail to see the difference.

As for optimal play: yeah, let's lynch someone who is confirmed town unless one specific player (Nic) is scum without that player's flip. Again, I fail to see how that makes any sense at all.

Look. I'm against a policy lynch on Day 2 after a Day 1 mislynch. So the only way Yellow is an option is if we think he is scum. The only way he can be scum is if Nic is also scum. A Yellow flip gives no info on Nic. A Nic town flip clears Yellow. If we go with the conspiracy theory that Nic and Yellow are both scum, we are lynching Nic first. Even that I don't want to do unless we get four PR claims because if we get three, that clears Nic and Yellow 100%.

Fuck it. If Nic or Yellow is getting lynched today, i'd rather just massclaim right now. So there's my stance. We either massclaim or we leave Nic and Yellow alone today.

Fuck this town is stupid. And I thought notscience at least had potential. Guess I was wrong there.

This is ridiculous.

[Egg]

^sorry if that came off dickish. Bad mood. Not game related.

[Hot Cheetos]

If this is for real, prove it. If it's fake, it's dumb.

Why did you want ns to prove it so early when he could prove it whenever the hell he felt like it?

Other than that, the IC claims are probably both liars. (by that I OBVIOUSLY mean I'm mafia and we didn't pick IC)

What did you actually mean by that and why was it worthy of comment?

I think that we should lynch between the two people who claimed innocent townie, the odds of getting scum are higher there. Whoever is innocent townie should help us by claiming, so we have a confirmed scum.

Why would you say this when the claims weren't serious? I also don't remember you pushing either of them or even throwing down a vote on either

Bald is obvscum for saying "serious vote", because whenever any1 says that they end up bein scum.

This reasoning is horrible.

Also; check my meta. I hate day 1. I hate it. I like having dead people; it gives info. Analysis. Until something really jumps out at me on day 1, I'm stuck with nothing; and hook onto even the littlest thing, such as bald saying "serious vote".

I don't think I have anything useful to say, that hasn't been said by somebody already.

Yeah, this sucked.

Hot Cheetos are you a hydra

We're a Nachomamma8/Baezu hydra, for the record.

Nic claiming he thought the IC was "Inexperienced Challenged" is terrible because Innocent Child

is a role mentioned in the Mod posts.

But does it make him more likely to be scum?

Oh, hi. I've been keeping track and didn't even realize i was due for a prod..... Wow, I've been reading daily....

Just nothing really to say other than I hate day 1. Nothing has jumped out to me as something to pursue and or comment on.... So... *goes back into the shadows*

"I hate D1, I hate D1, I hate D1"
Don't are how much you hate D1, there's absolutely no reason that you should be putting so little content into the thread.

Killing me is not smart; not n1 at least. As I have mentioned countless times i hate day 1. When I first learned mafia, the standard for games was NIGHT START. I grew very accustomed to this, and my playstyle revolves around night having already happened. If you must meta me, go ahead and you will see that I have said in almost all of my games how I hate day 1. Games with special mechanics might be different as the mechanics are a topic of discussion, and thus i was never called out for inactivity and/or prodded.

Note that this is opportunism + entirely OMGUS.

Well whatever, I hate day 1's. And i was by no means chainsawing Bana. In fact,

Intent to hammer Banakai.

Will allow some time to discuss.

And here's more opportunism, followed by a scum trying to act protown bit at the end.

He claimed to be a 1-shot cop and that used his one shot on YKV. As much as I'd prefer to lynch YKV just for being extremely transparently scummy, If there's even the chance he's not, and he's some other PR, I think it's better to test this by lynching nic. If he flips town 1-shot cop, then we know YKV is town, and we'll be even stronger going into D3. If nic flips scum, then we lynch YKV D3 for wins. However, lynching YKV today is a bad idea because while it may clear or damn nic, we run the risk of losing something potentially useful. This is the way to go.

This is horrible without 4 PRs claimed, and even more horrible because Nic is strongly town. This is especially horrible when there are 5 roles to choose from, and there was no vig shot from last night.

[Hot Cheetos]

Vote: beastcharizard

This vote strikes me as fantastic.

[NicCage]

No. Because you town read him. Why would you investigate a town read? I mean, it's even in the damn wiki on tips for playing a cop.

"How in the hell does it make sense for my scumbuddy to be a big part of my bandwagon so that I can claim cop then clear him?"

We have a word for that.

Suck my ass, I never townread him.

[quote="In post 296YKV leans scum.[/quote]

Yeah, it's not too late and fuck you. I think you're scum but I can't prove it.

Uh NS how was that a wasted shot I cleared a role that was in the dark. If you thought I was town why don't you believe me?

HC what's your read on Hermy?

HC

[NicCage]

Oh hey I know both of you
Say Bae, did you townread me on your own?

[Hot Cheetos]

Town as fuck, I talked about that earlier w/NS.

[NicCage]

Yeah I remember. Town as fuck sounds a lot stronger than what I remember though. Could you go over why again?

[Hot Cheetos]

Reasons why I'm town:

VOTE: NicCage

Why do you go pull your scumpartner out for something, and then not vote for him?

Useful post early on

I know I've got a while until a prod, but I feel like dodging it now

I don't think I have anything useful to say, that hasn't been said by somebody already.

This was a terrible, terrible post. I fully acknowledge that. I was feeling pretty irritated and lazy at the time, and I wanted to avoid a prod.

VOTE: Hermy

This looks very much like a forced newbie tell to get people to take it easy on her.

I have no intention to post any newbie tells. I've played many games off-site, and I don't classify myself as a newbie. (I don't classify myself as a master/veteran either though)

I have explained this, ns. Why else am I scum?

I counter claim IC

I was lieing about being IC,
Pretty sure notscience was too

Still not liking Nic. He's over reacting abit and he still hasn't said why he's calling that post "WIFOM"

Is this scum claiming IC and then taking it back when trouble comes? Hmm...

In general, I haven't seen very many super-helpful posts. Just a few.

I've discussed both IC claims, Beast.

This post.

[Hot Cheetos]

Why did that look quite town?

Frustration/confidence seems genuine. I doubt there's a scumplayer in the world who is not confident enough to fake reads and scumhunting, but is confident enough to make a "this is why I'm town" post like that.

[notscience]

Fuck this town is stupid. And I thought notscience at least had potential. Guess I was wrong there.

lol

I do shit, but if there's a some moron who threatens town's chances of winning, it's only logical to remove them.

Nic, I believe you. I don't particularly care to have YKV alive tomorrow to fuck up lylo (assuming we lynch town today, which is where the HC wagon seems to be heading)

Nachobaezu, I said I was open to FRing him too.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I'm not advocating lynching someone just because I dont want them in lylo. I never have and I never will. However, though his reasons are wrong, ns is understanding whats going on.

If yall want to claim then go ahead. Make it easier for scum. Be my guest. But its not necessary here. Instead of shooting in the dark we need to be following up and verifying leads. Go where the info is, and nic or ykv have it.

[Hot Cheetos]

Oh hey I know both of you
Say Bae, did you townread me on your own?

Yes. I did

[Hot Cheetos]

I don't think massclaim is necessary.

[notscience]

I don't think massclaim is necessary.

I agree.

I still stand by my vote.

[NicCage]

Fuck this town is stupid. And I thought notscience at least had potential. Guess I was wrong there.

lol

I do shit, but if there's a some moron who threatens town's chances of winning, it's only logical to remove them.

Nic, I believe you. I don't particularly care to have YKV alive tomorrow to fuck up lylo (assuming we lynch town today, which is where the HC wagon seems to be heading)

Nachobaezu, I said I was open to FRing him too.

No that's a bad idea, even if the other player is annoying.
I remember yesterday you said that HC's point about Hermy being town was something you would consider. Today you started with voting Hermy. I take it you don't buy into HC's reasoning, or you think the weight of evidence is on the other side of the scale.
Is there something wrong with HC's reasoning?
Why do you think Hermy is scum?
Why aren't you trying to convince anyone to vote Hermy?

Oh hey I know both of you
Say Bae, did you townread me on your own?

Yes. I did

Why? I'm not playing anything like the game we were in together.

[notscience]

No that's a bad idea, even if the other player is annoying.

Meh

I remember yesterday you said that HC's point about Hermy being town was something you would consider. Today you started with voting Hermy. I take it you don't buy into HC's reasoning, or you think the weight of evidence is on the other side of the scale.

I don't get the second half of this. I've pushed Hermy-scum for a while. But, lets look at my reads on everyone else. You town, which makes YKV town. Venrob town. NachoBaezu Town. BC town. Who does that leave for our 3 scums?

Is there something wrong with HC's reasoning?

I disagree with it. Difference of opinion.

Why do you think Hermy is scum?

See above, and reasons yesterday. Hermy's not trying to get reads or anything today either.

Why aren't you trying to convince anyone to vote Hermy?

Apathy.

[NicCage]

Hey ETL you need to acknowledge that you're full of shit. There's no good reason to be voting me. It doesn't make sense that you think I'm scum if you had thought I was town previous to my investigation. I investigated my scumread, and yours. It's absolutely retarded to lynch YKV over me.

No that's a bad idea, even if the other player is annoying.

Meh

I remember yesterday you said that HC's point about Hermy being town was something you would consider. Today you started with voting Hermy. I take it you don't buy into HC's reasoning, or you think the weight of evidence is on the other side of the scale.

I don't get the second half of this. I've pushed Hermy-scum for a while. But, lets look at my reads on everyone else. You town, which makes YKV town. Venrob town. NachoBaezu Town. BC town. Who does that leave for our 3 scums?

Is there something wrong with HC's reasoning?

I disagree with it. Difference of opinion.

Why do you think Hermy is scum?

See above, and reasons yesterday. Hermy's not trying to get reads or anything today either.

Why aren't you trying to convince anyone to vote Hermy?

Apathy.

Ya, I'm not gonna look back through your posts to find stuff. You know where it's at better than I do. If you don't want HC lynched you should push a real lynch. And seriously, if you're using PoE and you think you have the scumteam picked out it is beyond stupid to lynch someone you think is town. We won't be in lylo tomorrow if we lynch right.

I don't get the second half of this.

For my first comment, I'm saying that you said you would consider HC's reasoning for townreading Hermy. Then I'm assuming that this is either because you think HC's reasoning is wrong or because you think Hermy has more scummy points against her.

I disagree with it. Difference of opinion.

No way, really? I want to know why.

[Hot Cheetos]

I do shit, but if there's a some moron who threatens town's chances of winning, it's only logical to remove them.

Unless they happen to be confirmed town. It's not that difficult to ignore people, you know.

[beastcharizard]

@HC:
Can you explain your vote on me when in your previous post you called Venrob scum?

ETL is a good lynch for today. I don't think Nic or YKV are scum thus I don't want to lynch them. ETL is trying to direct potential town PRs which is in no way helpful.