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Post Post #2950 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:46 am

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scum actually does not, they only have to reach parity
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Post Post #2951 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:47 am

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Regardless, supposing Pyro sticks with his stanced stance, Pie is the lynch. We should scumhunt as if Pie is dead rather than bicker.

We need a universal definition of whether scum includes or excludes the sk. The popping back and forth because people use the word scum differently is a bitch.
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Post Post #2952 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:49 am

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they both need to die for us to win, what is the problem titus.

does the above not compute
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Post Post #2953 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:50 am

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the SK also needs to die for Scum to win.
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Post Post #2954 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:51 am

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I am not saying I have a problem with either of you. I am saying the debate is moot. We can use the time to scumhunt until Pyro presumably hammers. That's what I am saying.
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Post Post #2955 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:52 am

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I've already done scumhunting I've pointed out 4 scum.
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Post Post #2956 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:54 am

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Like seriously... think about it, what is the most common thing to give to an SK in most setups?... Bulletproof, limited shot obv. And what happened last night? only the kill from the SK!
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Post Post #2957 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:59 am

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If you've picked out your neighbor, have you considered hammering so scum cannot muddy the waters?
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Post Post #2958 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:00 am

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In post 2956, Sakura Hana wrote:Like seriously... think about it, what is the most common thing to give to an SK in most setups?... Bulletproof, limited shot obv. And what happened last night? only the kill from the SK!
might want to let that thought circle a few more times
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Post Post #2959 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:01 am

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I'm NOT hammering pie. He's a valuable asset to town.

P-Edit: Yeah I'm thinking scum actually wanted to kill pie last night but encountered a bulletproof vest.
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Post Post #2960 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:15 am

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In post 2959, Sakura Hana wrote:I'm NOT hammering pie. He's a valuable asset to town.

P-Edit: Yeah I'm thinking scum actually wanted to kill pie last night but encountered a bulletproof vest.
yeah, and you should let that thought circle a few more times.
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Post Post #2961 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:30 am

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In post 2828, waynegg wrote:
In post 2826, pieguyn wrote:
In post 2825, waynegg wrote:pedit then get back on the wagon Sven and stop derping out!
exactly why sven is scum :>
First Majiffy is scum for pushing you (catching you out actually)

Then I am (and now you're trying to appeal to me)

Then Titus is (even though that's the most conftown slot in the game)

Then Sven is

You know what? I see a pattern here.
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In case I can't find your old reads list, can you update who you think is scum and who you think is town?
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Post Post #2962 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:34 am

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Thanks for quoting that PV. I missed the buddying by Waynegg. Ew.
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Post Post #2963 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:37 am

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In post 2841, waynegg wrote:And you're wrong. You do t let known scum live. It's bad logic. We let known scum live yesterday and lynched town now we're down 3 town to no scum with known scum on D1. You're either stupid or scum to think it's not beneficial to lynch known scum. I don't think you're stupid...

And you don't get to state that everyone sees him as scum and then turn around and differentiate him being SK. you don't get to sit that fence. And when he flips factional scum, whatcha gonna say then?
You are saying that Pie is mafiascum not SK.

And you think that the mislynch yesterday was to avoid Pie being lynched.

Examine the Doolittle wagon and find all of Pie's teammates and point them out to us.
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Post Post #2964 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:41 am

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PV, point ou the scum is fair. Why do you assume All of Pie's hypothetical scumbuddies didn't bus? That's a neon flag. I would expect one or two on the Pie wagon. Point out all of the scum is intellectually unfair.
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Post Post #2965 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:43 am

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In post 2857, Svenskt Stål wrote:That makes total sense.

In any game town will suspect townies

Pie, if scum, knows who is not on his scum team

Pie picks a "town friendly" target

Pie kills the "town friendly" target

Nothing of this should make you think that pie is town friendly

Pie is 100% not town and is likely scum, he needs to die for town to win.
Damn that Pie. He killed a town friendly target.
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Post Post #2966 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:45 am

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In post 2860, Wake1 wrote:I, too, am considering replacing out.

Kdub's game is wonderful. However, noob/bad/stupid "Town," who keep making excuses to not lynch the supposed SK, is beyong aggravating. Not kdub's fault. They'll likely lynch another Townie, and another Townie will likely get killed by SK.

One should never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Who are the other non-Pie scum?
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Post Post #2967 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:46 am

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In post 2864, Belisarius wrote:At this point all of the D2 discussion is "Yuh-uh"ing and "Nuh-uh"ing about lynching pie and abso-fucking-lutely nothing is happening that might catch scum instead.

This distraction from scumhunting needs to be eliminated.

VOTE: pie
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Post Post #2968 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:51 am

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peregrinev,

if you want to call me out on something you point to the fact that i asked everyone to unvote pie... like 5 pages ago
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Post Post #2969 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:51 am

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In post 2875, Sakura Hana wrote:Sheep me on this guys, this is the guy along with waynegg that have been causing all this noise in the thread when the SK has already been leashed by us, once he's dead we will have glorious days of scumhunting with all that noise gone.

Also FoSing: Sven, Waynegg and Wake.

P-Edit: I trust pie because he's bound to us.
Your giving a list of scumreads? How can you do such a thing when we have an SK?

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Post Post #2970 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:53 am

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In post 2968, Svenskt Stål wrote:peregrinev,

if you want to call me out on something you point to the fact that i asked everyone to unvote pie... like 5 pages ago
I'm just reading up. if I happen to point out something you said back when you said it, the good news is you still said it.

The even better news would be if you have new information and/or new opinions.

But, I have to read them first. :wink:
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Post Post #2971 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:59 am

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In post 2897, Majiffy wrote:
In post 2895, Sakura Hana wrote:You know we would have found scum already if you pulled your heads out of your asses and started scumhunting instead of trying to get a leashed SK lynched.
You know I already found scum if you'd pull your head out of your ass and vote it.
Unless you think the game is 20 town vs 1 sK, you still got work to do.
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Post Post #2972 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:02 am

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In post 2912, Titus wrote:Majiffy is the most town looking of Wake/Stal/Jiffy. A stal or Wake wagon is more likely. Given Pie is at L minus 1, you will need a fast wagon.

Nati, why kill one of the people on the wagon if Pie is the SK? Woyldn't those likely be null for reasons we have already discussed?
Catching the SK earns you no town credit in the game of mafia.

What you do afterwards is where it's at. I see 3 more pages to read. Let's see if Majiffy tries to look for mafia by the time I reach the last one.
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Post Post #2973 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:03 am

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In post 2914, Natirasha wrote:
In post 2912, Titus wrote:Nati, why kill one of the people on the wagon if Pie is the SK? Woyldn't those likely be null for reasons we have already discussed?
It is trying to figure out who has the
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Beli falls into that category too.
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Post Post #2974 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:05 am

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In post 2935, leviathan93 wrote:lol. haha "yeah, I agree" =) well, i pretty much lost all my "real" reads on people due to this stupid argument over Pie which is why I want him dead already so I can finally think. at that point I was just agreeing with everything you said because it seemed reasonable to me. I always went back and checked what you meant and if you were correct to feel the way you were and for the most part you were.
So, with more people posting and putting information out there, your ability to read people based on what they post has just vanished?
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