Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

[waynegg]

PV, point ou the scum is fair. Why do you assume All of Pie's hypothetical scumbuddies didn't bus? That's a neon flag. I would expect one or two on the Pie wagon. Point out all of the scum is intellectually unfair.

My point is more that I disagree that Pie is mafia.

Wayne thinks Pie is mafia, but has done nothing to "use" that knowledge to find out which of Pie's buddies were voting him or voting Dolittle.

That makes me lean towards the fact he doesn't think that, but switched to the "Pie is mafia" argument because the "Pie is SK" argument didn't work.

Assumptions make an ass of u...

[Majiffy]

And I think I'm being held in this game against my will.

You may not die until I say so.

Nati conf scum ITT

[Titus]

This may come down to Kanye and Pyro.

I'm not lynching Kanye.

I meant their votes

[Titus]

This may come down to Kanye and Pyro. I was pretty confident in Pie getting lynched. Now not so much.


Nah Wake. Your pool sucks.

Oh? Why?

If I can permanently keep my hat in that pool for the rest of you to argue for, you can do the same. Or do you have reason not to?

I have no problem putting mine, yours, and Sakura's hats in the pool. That's just my opinion. For the pool we should have around 7.

This would work if I trusted Pie to shoot scum. I don't hence my refusal to volunteer. You should be refusing as well. The fact you are not is baffling.

[Wake1]

Is anyone else here willing to commit to me shackling the SK if we can't lynch him?

*I want to know if I'm wasting my time.

[Titus]

Sakura/Majiffy: Wake + Pie factionscum? Discuss?

[Titus]

Is anyone else here willing to commit to me shackling the SK if we can't lynch him?

*I want to know if I'm wasting my time.

If you pick from Sakura's pool, I am fine with you picking.

[Wake1]

This would work if I trusted Pie to shoot scum. I don't hence my refusal to volunteer. You should be refusing as well. The fact you are not is baffling.

I'm frustrated, Titus.

I want supposed SK dead, but if not, let me shackle/us control him.

If that can't even be agreed upon, then Town is absolutely divided and fraying in the wind.

[DeasVail]

Wake, I'm not going to change my mind just because you don't like my opinion and will have a big whinge about it if I don't. Surely if you've been playing for 6 years you know that people won't always agree with you, and frankly this ego thing you have going makes me question your competence.

Pyro, is it really that obvious? You yourself have mentioned that you've been avoiding the thread. Why should I be reading you as town? Obviously you're not going to be town in games with me forever, so this whole I only 'suspect' you as scum thing is pretty and I'm not sure why it's a reason why I shouldn't suspect you? The fact is, when I've seen you as town, you have been really obviously town, sometimes even right from Page 1/2. I do not see that at all here.

I don't think there's much reason to be concerned about the tracker claims when neither of them is a full tracker (as far as I know) and they're both really obvtown and it's probably the kind of thing a mod would do to cause extra confusion in a game.

I'm also starting to think though that lynching the SK might be best just to stop all the drama, but I feel like we've been bullied into it, so I'm still quite resistant to the idea especially when it's based on ridiculous notions such as Pie likely being groupscum, which as I've already said, doesn't even mean we should lynch him!

Ok Stal is probably town.

Titus, why would scum be so bold as to make that post?

Wayne, Pie staying alive is not what causes the town deaths. And even his kill is only instead of the groupscum kill if that's what he is. Our lynches and other vig kills are completely independent of Pie.

Wake, I have to say it, but you're becoming a little ridiculous with this vigpool thing. And why are there 8 spots?

This would be a vote for levi, but I can't be bothered counting, so I'll wait for a vote count.

[Wake1]

Is anyone else here willing to commit to me shackling the SK if we can't lynch him?

*I want to know if I'm wasting my time.

If you pick from Sakura's pool, I am fine with you picking.

I want to go the nomination route, where everyone has a say on their top 3 to go into the pool.

Then once the pool if filled, we can focus on which ONE target we have the SK kill.

[Titus]

DV, what post? Pronoun confusion.

Wake, picking one from Sakura's pool works. Sakura is held accountable based on her picking the pool. You are held accountable based on it being your choice. It is a perfect Solomon's choice.

[Wake1]

Wake, I'm not going to change my mind just because you don't like my opinion and will have a big whinge about it if I don't. Surely if you've been playing for 6 years you know that people won't always agree with you, and frankly this ego thing you have going makes me question your competence.

Wake, I have to say it, but you're becoming a little ridiculous with this vigpool thing. And why are there 8 spots?

Stow the personal crap, Deas.

I'm trying to unify Town to either lynch SK, or at least negotiate a pool in a fair manner.

[DeasVail]

I like [Empking, Pyro, Wayne] as SK targets btw.

PEdit: Oh sorry, I meant the Svenskt one asking for breadcrumbs.

PEdit: I'm saying that what you're doing is not making me want to follow what you say. In fact it's quite the opposite, and I think it's the same for most players here, who have expressed interest in killing you even if you're town. Seriously, if you want people to take you seriously, you probably need to take a different approach.

[Wake1]

DV, what post? Pronoun confusion.

Wake, picking one from Sakura's pool works. Sakura is held accountable based on her picking the pool. You are held accountable based on it being your choice. It is a perfect Solomon's choice.

No. I want everyone to have equal say with their own top 3 noms.

I'm auto-in the pool to keep it more fair.

You give your top 3 for the pool, so does Sakura, so does Nat, so does Kanye, etc. If players have 3+ noms on tem, they get put into the pool.

Once the pool is filled, we then discuss who our shackled SK should shoot.

It's OUR choice. NOT his.

[Wake1]

I apologize, but could you guys bold your top 3 nominations, please?

If you do that, I'll start counting them up. Me and Sven are in already.

[Titus]

I think Stal is panicked scum there. He just up and out of the blue asks for doc crumbs. Totally scummy. I cannot see town motivation there. Did I answer your question DV?

Wake, why isn't it fair for you to pick one of Sakura's pool? It creates accountability for you both and gives a lot of info.

[waynegg]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Leviathan
.

No, just no. You push yesterday on Pie and unvoted when it looked like it might happen. Now you do it again. Wtf? You always fence sit like this?

[Wake1]

I think Stal is panicked scum there. He just up and out of the blue asks for doc crumbs. Totally scummy. I cannot see town motivation there. Did I answer your question DV?

Wake, why isn't it fair for you to pick one of Sakura's pool? It creates accountability for you both and gives a lot of info.

I'll take responsibility if we accidentally have SK kill a Townie.

HOWEVER, I want the process of you guys picking who to put into the pool and discussing who to shoot to be completely FAIR.

[waynegg]

It's both incredibly frustrating and extremely intriguing when Townies refuse to lynch Scum.

There's nothing intriguing about watching stupid. Unless you, like me, believe"Idiocracy" to be more prophecy than movie.

[DeasVail]

I actually don't mind the idea of having everyone nominate three people. It was something we always did way back on my old site, and it worked quite well. I don't know if we'll manage to do it though.

Empking, Pyro, Wayne

PEdit: Titus, yeah you did, but I don't think I've ever seen scum do that, and usually when I've seen something that's too strange to come from town or scum, it's from town.

[Svenskt Stål]

I think Stal is panicked scum there. He just up and out of the blue asks for doc crumbs. Totally scummy. I cannot see town motivation there. Did I answer your question DV?

Wake, why isn't it fair for you to pick one of Sakura's pool? It creates accountability for you both and gives a lot of info.

does the vagina make the carrier retarded

i dont understand

[waynegg]

It's both incredibly frustrating and extremely intriguing when Townies refuse to lynch Scum.

what part of

LEASHING THE SK

Do you not get.

umm. Because everyone isn't as dense as you and won't just ignore their wincon to help a contrary team...

[Natirasha]

PEdit: I'm saying that what you're doing is not making me want to follow what you say. In fact it's quite the opposite, and I think it's the same for most players here, who have expressed interest in killing you even if you're town. Seriously, if you want people to take you seriously, you probably need to take a different approach.

Word. I really want Wake to have nothing to do with the pool. If I had to choose one person to choose who pie shoots, it'd be Kanye.

PEDIT; Ugh, whatever, Empking, Svenskt, Wake.

[Sakura Hana]

Wake, So i take it you no longer want to lynch pie but leash him with the rest of the town?

P-Edit: OMFG

Sven please stop that is getting ridiculous

[Titus]

I think Stal is panicked scum there. He just up and out of the blue asks for doc crumbs. Totally scummy. I cannot see town motivation there. Did I answer your question DV?

Wake, why isn't it fair for you to pick one of Sakura's pool? It creates accountability for you both and gives a lot of info.

I'll take responsibility if we accidentally have SK kill a Townie.

HOWEVER, I want the process of you guys picking who to put into the pool and discussing who to shoot to be completely FAIR.

Nice dodge. What is unfair about you picking from Sakura's pool? Your method is democratic and cumberome. This method is republician and simple.