In post 47, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Stupid scum would vote tip. you dont like that i'm not 100% in the game on page 2 when i JUST bookmarked it and i'm still at work? What are trying to say? Just say you think i'm scum if thats the case, dont try to push some diarrhea.
In post 46, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Also, I don't see TIP voting the IC as a towntell. I see it as null. Why wouldn't scum vote for the IC if the reaction to his vote is to call it a towntell? Clearly he wanted people to comment or wagon him which is what I did. It could be pro-town if TIP actually developed reads based on the comments, questioned people on his wagon, and analyzed it for people's motivations. So far, he hasn't done anything of that sort. I am still null.
EspeciallyTheLies, I don't like that your response has been to simply say that you weren't following the game deeply. You already seem to have reads (TIP as town) and analysis. What did you mean when you said "TIP was clearly looking for stupid scum." What would stupid scum do in this situation? Based on his behavior, I am also not sold that TIP is looking for anything whatsoever.
I mean, I just did it for shits and giggles, I wasn't expecting people to overreact
Considering ETL's frustration, I am leaning more towards her being town. I need to double-check other games to see if she fakes it as scum. She was frustrated in Newbie 1347 as well in the initial stages of the game but it seemed very different the way she handled it. I'll try and check more recent games though.
Sangres, thoughts so far? What do you make of TIP's vote on the IC, and Bulbazak's, Pitoli's and ETL's reactions to it?
What frustration F-16? How do my 3 or 4 posts give you a town read on me already?
VOTE: F-16
First you try to paint me as scummy for saying "I'm at work right now" and then all of a sudden my "frustration looks town"? From my POV, you said something stupid and I pointed it out.
Also, pretending you can use meta on me based on my very first newbie game is pretty funny.
Okay, now my townread is stronger. I didn't have a "strong" townread on you, just something that looked townish at first glance and made me think "possibly town." Since it was early on in the game, I laid it out so that others can comment on it and discuss. Now, I much more sure that you are town based on immediately attacking me after I backed off. I feel that scum would be happy to mutually back out of an argument. I looked at your wiki to see what I could find. I didn't realize how old the game was. I'll try and find some newer ones.
He got caught for back peddling after he attempted to make me look scummy for something that wasn't scummy. So now he's trying to say he meant to do something scummy to get a reaction out of me and/or the rest of the thread. Except he clearly wasn't "reaction testing". Not to mention the fact that even if it was, it was a bad one, and it looks more like he's trying to avoid OMGUS because he thinks it will make him look worse, when in fact it's what I'd expect from a townie. Not this soft and sickly sweet buddying he's attempting.
In post 61, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:He got caught for back peddling after he attempted to make me look scummy for something that wasn't scummy. So now he's trying to say he meant to do something scummy to get a reaction out of me and/or the rest of the thread. Except he clearly wasn't "reaction testing". Not to mention the fact that even if it was, it was a bad one, and it looks more like he's trying to avoid OMGUS because he thinks it will make him look worse, when in fact it's what I'd expect from a townie. Not this soft and sickly sweet buddying he's attempting.
Hmm I wanted to figure it out on my own.
But I thought the buddying was the weirdest part of that post. When someone votes me, my reaction is not "Wow I think you're really town."
Game(s) where I have in fact been the last survivor, or been among the last survivors: 1
Post 59: I am not buddying, I am saying that I have a townread on you. Would you rather I OMGUS a townread? My initial townread was not a "reaction test" and I never said it was. I had a weak townread and I explained why. I didn't attempt to "make you look scummy", I found you scummy. Then I read you as weak town, then I read you as strong town. I didn't intend any of these reads to make me look scummy or part of some grand plan of reaction testing. They are the natural progression of my reads.
Your current attack on me reads as if you genuinely believe you caught scum so now you are in my "never-lynch" pile. That leaves 6 other players and I think there are 2 scum in there.
Pedit: I explained my reasoning for thinking ETL as town. If you think I am suspicion for not OMGUSing, you underestimate my ability to develop accurate reads. Besides, scum can OMGUS too. It is null. Bad town and bad scum OMGUS everyone that suspects them.
In post 56, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Considering ETL's frustration, I am leaning more towards her being town. I need to double-check other games to see if she fakes it as scum. She was frustrated in Newbie 1347 as well in the initial stages of the game but it seemed very different the way she handled it. I'll try and check more recent games though.
Sangres, thoughts so far? What do you make of TIP's vote on the IC, and Bulbazak's, Pitoli's and ETL's reactions to it?
How much of your ETL read is rule-of-thumb based?
Of the three, the one I like least is Pitoli's reaction.
I don't like that she didn't take thread events into account. It looked like a "wheeeeeeeee! RVS wagon!" vote at a point where the thread should have abruptly moved out of RVS.
What are your thoughts about Pitoli's reaction?
Do you agree with me that ETL is obvtown?
Because of her reaction to you? I'm tempted to do a bert-style game metaphor.
In post 68, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:BTW is there something I should know about this setup or is it just something BB came up with in his head last month?