Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

DeasVail · Post Post #3600 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:17 am

Oh, and the order that I list players in doesn't mean anything, and there's also Pie.

Titus · Post Post #3601 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:20 am

Take out Wake and Nati and I'm fine with that townblock.

Titus · Post Post #3602 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:21 am

I don't think Pie needs to be included in a reads list.

waynegg · Post Post #3603 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:24 am

In post 3592, Natirasha wrote:
In post 3587, Titus wrote:Is there any chance Natirasha that I can convince you to lynch Pie?
Lynch Empking with me today and I'll lynch pie tomorrow. Deal?

So lynch another town today for a scum that'll definitely be lynched tomorrow anyhow when only one kill pops up from the night...yeah...pass. Opposite order.

Wake1 · Post Post #3604 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:26 am

I don't know what to do with this game anymore. You guys are just gonna keep killing Townies and protecting the SK until you're thoroughly burnt up. And the sad part is is that you guys'll take zero responsibility at that time, nor admit to being utter laughingstocks. You want to kill Townies over the supposed Serial Killer then you go on ahead. It's really too bad you guys can't just do the right thing. We've tried reasoning with you, explained to you the foolishness of your ways, but you won't budge. It's like we're not even playing Mafia anymore where we find and lynch the bad guys instead of working with them.

In frustration I considered voting Empking, but then he'd probably flip Town, then another Townie gets nK'd, then bad-Town comes screeching at me for going along with their stupid plan. It is so amazing to see the depths some people will go to keep sacrificing themselves. I should take a personal V/LA from this game. That, or start tearing the fuck out of people with each consecutive Townie getting killed over SK. You keep hacking at limbs to remove the tumors, you'll eventually be nothing but a bloody mess.

waynegg · Post Post #3605 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:26 am

In post 3597, Natirasha wrote:
In post 3596, Titus wrote:Nati, I don't know. I am not a fan of bargaining. This sounds you want Pie to take one more shot.
That is exactly what I want, keep culling the numbers another night.

because it's so good to cull the numbers just to be stupid...yeah...still no.

waynegg · Post Post #3606 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:27 am

In post 3599, DeasVail wrote:Wake, Pyro has essentially shown us that Pie is the SK and not groupscum. Please don't use the possibility of him being groupscum to support your arguments.

I also don't see much point in waiting for a lynch at this stage except for getting a claim/anything else that's obvious.

My reads are looking something like this:

Super town:

Kanye
PeregrineV
Pyrotechnics
Sakura Hana
Wake88
Talah
Natirasha
Titus

(I actually think this would be a pretty great townblock, but somehow I don't think people would want me in it, so...)

Then I've got a group of people who are kind of town, but I could still see as scum:

Belisarius (Probably should be in the group above, but I'm worried about his lack of posting lately)
AGar
Svenskt
Majiffy
Nacho

And then there's:

Wayne
Empking
Leviathan

Whatcha wanna bet that when DV flips scum, all the rest of the scum will be found in the Super Town category?

Natirasha · Post Post #3607 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:31 am

In post 3605, waynegg wrote:because it's so good to cull the numbers just to be stupid...yeah...still no.

Flips are important, yes. It's easier to scumhunt when more people are dead too.

DeasVail · Post Post #3608 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:32 am

I think they're both pretty town though. Wake especially seems town with his desperate need for control (seems to stem from the paranoia that anyone else leashing the SK could possibly be scum-motivated which is pretty town) and I pretty consistently get the impression that he's town who thinks he's pretty great and thinks that everyone else either sucks or is scum. Match this kind of attitude with scum, and all of it just seems so unnecessary that you wonder scum would even bother with it.

Nati is probably one of my weaker 'super town' reads (but is still a pretty strong townread because by super I actually mean super), but I think that he's generally been quite town from things like his softclaim to his pushing of the DrDolittle wagon (scum could have easily just sat back and let town just continue in chaos because that's what pretty much everyone else was doing). There are also things like 3526 that are exactly what I felt like saying, so yeah, probably one of my less ~logical~ townreads, but I feel he's pretty town!

PEdit (Titus) But I don't want Pie to feel left out!

PEdit: (Wake) I'm sure there are quite a few non-Pie scum. Why not lynch them?

PEdit (Wayne) And here I was thinking you'd changed your mind on me.

Wake1 · Post Post #3609 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:34 am

Yeah, let's leave the SK alive. It's not like Town Power Roles matter. Or Townies, either. You know, let's make sure Titus and Sakura keep protecting the SK and that the SK doesn't target them. That way it'd be easier for Town to win when they all flip Scum. No problems there.

"OH, Empking flipped Town? Doesn't matter, even if he's PR. Let's go hit another Townie! It's SO much fun! Wheee!"

Sakura Hana · Post Post #3610 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:35 am

Wake im still waiting for that scum motivation behind killing AA9.

Natirasha · Post Post #3611 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:36 am

Wake: What happens if Empking flips scum? Do we become big meanies who are all bussing?

Titus · Post Post #3612 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:37 am

Wake, why are you supposing I want the SK lynched or that I'm protecting Pie. That's asinine.

Titus · Post Post #3613 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:37 am

*want the SK leashed

I want him lynched. Thoughts ran together.

PeregrineV · Post Post #3614 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:38 am

In post 3599, DeasVail wrote:Wake, Pyro has essentially shown us that Pie is the SK and not groupscum. Please don't use the possibility of him being groupscum to support your arguments.

I also don't see much point in waiting for a lynch at this stage except for getting a claim/anything else that's obvious.

My reads are looking something like this:

Super town:

Kanye
PeregrineV
Pyrotechnics
Sakura Hana
Wake88
Talah
Natirasha
Titus

(I actually think this would be a pretty great townblock, but somehow I don't think people would want me in it, so...)

Then I've got a group of people who are kind of town, but I could still see as scum:

Belisarius (Probably should be in the group above, but I'm worried about his lack of posting lately)
AGar
Svenskt
Majiffy
Nacho

And then there's:

Wayne
Empking
Leviathan

Go with null in the middle, and I could approve this almost exactly.

PeregrineV · Post Post #3615 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:38 am

In post 3603, waynegg wrote:
In post 3592, Natirasha wrote:
In post 3587, Titus wrote:Is there any chance Natirasha that I can convince you to lynch Pie?
Lynch Empking with me today and I'll lynch pie tomorrow. Deal?
So lynch another town today for a scum that'll definitely be lynched tomorrow anyhow when only one kill pops up from the night...yeah...pass. Opposite order.

Why is EmpKing town?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #3616 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:39 am

It's simple.

Wake and wayne already know he's town.

PeregrineV · Post Post #3617 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:40 am

In post 3569, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3535, Wake1 wrote:
In post 3527, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3523, Wake1 wrote:The reason I'm upset about AA9 being shot is because we lost a Townie, and regardless of what your drama is with AA9, all Townies are important because numbers are important. You go ahead and debate me on this.
OK, I will. Chat time go.

We know we are not all townies by the definition of the game of mafia.

How do you locate the townies that you want to keep?
Wrong response.

We DON'T know exactly who is who, but when we have claimed Scum, we lynch that person instead of someone who may be Town/TownPR.
Let's focus.

The question was, "How do you locate the members of the town with the town win condition from amoung all the members of the town?"

@Wake:
How do you locate the members of the town with the town win condition from amoung all the members of the town?

Titus · Post Post #3618 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:40 am

In post 3616, Sakura Hana wrote:It's simple.

Wake and wayne already know he's town.

Or Empking is their scumbuddy.

Natirasha · Post Post #3619 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:40 am

I don't buy Wake-scum, but Wayne-scum...sure.

I promised I wouldn't nightkill him, though, so I'm not advocating the SK kill him.

Titus · Post Post #3620 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:41 am

err scratch Wayne from that but yeah.

PeregrineV · Post Post #3621 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:41 am

In post 3616, Sakura Hana wrote:It's simple.

Wake and wayne already know he's town.

But I want them to tell me why. If they want to say they are masons with him, then fine.

Titus · Post Post #3622 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:41 am

In post 3619, Natirasha wrote:I don't buy Wake-scum, but Wayne-scum...sure.

I promised I wouldn't nightkill him
, though, so I'm not advocating the SK kill him.

That looks like a scum slip.

Natirasha · Post Post #3623 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:43 am

"Looks" is the correct word, Titus. Wayne and i've been joking the whole game how we're of separate alignments and are promising to not lynch or kill each other.

Wake1 · Post Post #3624 (ISO) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:48 am

Well, Sakura is manipulative Scum based on her deliberate feigning of ignorance. Yet again, Sakura, a motivation for Scum to join the AA9 wagon is because it seemed to be an easy lynch according to general opinion (not mine).

Natirasha, if Empking flips Scum, then ok. Only pie is confScum, and everyone else is an unknown.

Titus, it sure as hell doesn't sound like you want him lynched based on your constant attacks and distractions towards those who want pie LYNCHED. If you want him lynched so badly, put your feet to the fire and actually show some damned conviction about it.

Peregrine, please paraphrase your question because I don't know what the hell you're asking me.