Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

Titus · Post Post #4075 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:06 am

Good luck with the interview.

Talah, same question. In my place, vig or not to vig.

Empking · Post Post #4076 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:06 am

In post 4074, Titus wrote:Vanillaize would make the sk stop killing presmably and have to lynch everyone.

No. You'd assume that a Serial Killer's kill goes beyond what can be vanillaised.

Titus · Post Post #4077 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:07 am

Why the hell would anyone assume that? That's lke saying a vanillaizer only takes out the BP in a one shot bp cop.

Titus · Post Post #4078 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:09 am

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vanillaiser

Vanillaisers remove power. Logically that is he Sks kill ability.

PeregrineV · Post Post #4079 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:10 am

In post 4028, Titus wrote:Pere, you are in my place. Shoot or no shoot. Why? Who?

Wayne, as a general rule I agree. That suggests Talah/Wake scum. I don't think Empking's wagon was easy though. Shouting doesn't make your point more effective.

Shoot. Or not.

Scum doesn't want town PRs around. X-shots become confirmed town when they run out, and scum don't want them around either. With that said, they will kill you for getting close to them before any of the other reasons.

You should shoot so that town gets to use the shot before you are killed.
You should not shoot tonight because you might be roleblocked. (and of course check with the mod- does being blocked use up your shot Y/N?)

Who?
Since we are collectively giving a list, I recommend you shoot a player you suspect is scum, but will probably never get lynched because they appear "just town enough". That will keep scum guessing.

Titus · Post Post #4080 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:12 am

I am deliberately going to leave whether being roleblocked will use my shot up to encourage wifom.

Empking · Post Post #4081 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:12 am

In post 4078, Titus wrote:http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vanillaiser

Vanillaisers remove power. Logically that is he Sks kill ability.

No logically the kill of part of being the serial killer faction, and Vanillaisers don't rid factional powers.

Titus · Post Post #4082 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:15 am

PV, please hammer Empking after Talah responds.

Empking, took you a long time to come up with that. The SK is a faction of one. Do you really think that the investigation immune is role specific but the kill is faction oriented? Did you even ask?

Empking · Post Post #4083 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:20 am

In post 4082, Titus wrote:PV, please hammer Empking after Talah responds.

Empking, took you a long time to come up with that.

Not as long as it took you to come up with this.

The SK is a faction of one. Do you really think that the investigation immune is role specific but the kill is faction oriented?

Yes. That's the sensible case.

Did you even ask?

No.

MOd: Assuming there is a serial killer in this game, are you willing to answer details about the Serial Killer's role PM?

talah · Post Post #4084 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:22 am

In post 4073, Empking wrote:
In post 4069, talah wrote:
In post 4066, Empking wrote:He'd claimed investigative immunity. He'd also claimed SK. Why would I care to get rid of the claimed SK's investigative immunity when he had already claimed. I think its important to note that the 'PIe might be group scum' discovery occurred in day two.
No, it was partially the consideration that he could be group-scum that forced his hand on claiming SK. That was Day 1.
Yes, and the claim temporary got rid of the suspicion he was group scum. Or are you saying you still think he's group scum?

You're contradicting yourself. He was copping heat, so he claimed Vig. Then discussion was had as to whether he was Vig, SK or group-scum. He was going to be lynched unless he claimed SK. He claimed SK and discussion was had as to whether he was SK or group scum. All in Day 1.

I think he's probably SK, mainly because of the result of Night 1 and today's arguing, also because of non-selective voting and the targets of his scumhunting efforts. I could be wrong but hey if you'd followed him none of us would have to guess, right?

In post 4073, Empking wrote:

In post 4066, Empking wrote:P-Edit: Follow, Jailkeep, Vanillise is not that good a set of powers. I'd rather be a non-consecutive tracker.
If you knew there was an event that could reset your abilities, you would have started burning your abilities immediately.
On Night Zero?

Fair enough. So when were you notified and what was the paraphrased notification?

Titus · Post Post #4085 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:23 am

You theoretically may have had the ability to neuter the SK an you didn't ask. What the fuck?

talah · Post Post #4086 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:27 am

In post 4075, Titus wrote:Good luck with the interview.

Talah, same question. In my place, vig or not to vig.

I dunno. If you think you're gonna make a bad choice, I've already advised caution.
Weird you ask me when you've just implied one of me and Wake is scum (or did I misread that)?

Titus · Post Post #4087 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:32 am

I have read you are possible scum. Getting information from scum is still valuable regardless. So I ask. If it turns out the "scum" player is frequently right, that would probably change my mind on them.

Titus · Post Post #4088 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:35 am

So I would appreciate it if you answer Talah.

talah · Post Post #4089 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:39 am

Answer what? Vig or don't vig?
Don't vig then. Tomorrow's results would be way too wifomy and frankly, I don't trust your claim.

Happy?

Empking · Post Post #4090 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:42 am

In post 4085, Titus wrote:You theoretically may have had the ability to neuter the SK an you didn't ask. What the fuck?

Why are you letting him live. If you don't want him to kill? (I don't have the theoretically ability to neuter the SK since his kill obviously isn't going to be able to be vanillaised since that's an insane design choice.)

Talah: I'm not contradicting myself. I thought he was a SK yesterday. (Paraphrased the activation is: Your [Ability's Name] has been activated.)

Natirasha · Post Post #4091 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:45 am

Why didn't you jailkeep him is the more important question

Svenskt Stål · Post Post #4092 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:47 am

i wish i was in scum chat

pie, i hold no grudge if you take me to dead qt

any place but here

close to titus

talah · Post Post #4093 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:47 am

^^lol, why are you letting him kill, if you don't want him to live?

Avoiding the question of "when" you were notified?

Titus · Post Post #4094 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:48 am

In post 4090, Empking wrote:
In post 4085, Titus wrote:You theoretically may have had the ability to neuter the SK an you didn't ask. What the fuck?
Why are you letting him live. If you don't want him to kill? (I don't have the theoretically ability to neuter the SK since his kill obviously isn't going to be able to be vanillaised since that's an insane design choice.)

Talah: I'm not contradicting myself. I thought he was a SK yesterday. (Paraphrased the activation is: Your [Ability's Name] has been activated.)

I cannot kill on the same day I use a dayvig. Kalimar shot mastin prior to th SK claim. I already said that.

Svenskt Stål · Post Post #4095 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:51 am

In post 4093, talah wrote:^^lol, why are you letting him kill, if you don't want him to live?

Avoiding the question of "when" you were notified?

this question makes no sense.

can i stop him from killing?
no

Can I get him lynched?
no

Will he kill
yes

Titus · Post Post #4096 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:52 am

Nati. You're on. Your turn who should I vig if I shoot.

Stal, that question was to Empking.

Empking · Post Post #4097 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:53 am

In post 4093, talah wrote:Avoiding the question of "when" you were notified?

At the end of the day/start of night. I said before that I hope there'd be more useful things to use a JK on.

Titus · Post Post #4098 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:54 am

More useful than stopping someone you would believe would shoot town?

PeregrineV · Post Post #4099 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:58 am

In post 4085, Titus wrote:You theoretically may have had the ability to neuter the SK an you didn't ask. What the fuck?

There's many things wrong with the claim, and this is one of them. It actually sounds like a scum ability that was given to counter the SK, but they decided to save it and lynch him instead.