Newbie 1444 ~ Game Ovah ~ Mafia Win

Thor665 · Post Post #200 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:51 pm

@Micc - could you describe to me why you think Antagon is scum? I glanced over your posts and, if you did it, I missed it.

Also, if you could give me your read on Sakura I would be most thankful.

Micc · Post Post #201 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:21 pm

Antagon hasn't made an effort to analyse anyone and determine their alignment. His only vote was either sheeped or had poor evidence - probably a mix of both. And now he is gone, and I want him to come back.

I don't get the impression that Sakura is here to scum hunt either. There is enough of that going around between the newbies, but I feel like Sakura is experienced enough to know better. When I get the time I want to to some meta diving on her. She is a scum read for now but that's open to change.

Thor665 · Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:41 pm

Sakura has done literally everything you have accused Antagon of. In fact, moreso except that she ahs a history of not being a lurksack.
Why are you voting the one over the other.

Also, what makes either of them scummier than Burn?

Micc · Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:20 pm

Im voting Antagon because he has a wagon and Sakura does not. Burn, Antagon, and Sakura have equal scummyness in my mind. Im not sure which of the three I would prefer to lynch today. I really just want Antagon to so up and talk with us, but my gut says he wont pick up this prod before being replaced.

Micc · Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:21 pm

That should be "show up" not "so up"

Thor665 · Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:35 pm

In post 203, Micc wrote:Im voting Antagon because he has a wagon and Sakura does not.

Functionally, isn't this one of your stated reasons for taking issue with Antagon - that he "sheeps" people and votes cases already with support?

In post 203, Micc wrote:Burn, Antagon, and Sakura have equal scummyness in my mind. Im not sure which of the three I would prefer to lynch today.

So why unvote Burn?

In post 203, Micc wrote:I really just want Antagon to so up and talk with us, but my gut says he wont pick up this prod before being replaced.

So...your vote is meaningless where it is then?

Kytoxid · Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:20 pm

I'm still willing to lynch Gale, but seeing as she hasn't logged on for almost 3 days now...(assuming MS.net profile information is accurate, correct me if it isn't)

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sakura

What was the point of the push on DoL for missing a post on the first 2 pages? I can't see any reasons why it would be scummy, regardless of whether it was actually a computer error or not.

Also, please address the concerns about your lack of scum hunting.

Micc · Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:29 pm

In post 205, Thor665 wrote:
In post 203, Micc wrote:Im voting Antagon because he has a wagon and Sakura does not.
Functionally, isn't this one of your stated reasons for taking issue with Antagon - that he "sheeps" people and votes cases already with support?

In post 203, Micc wrote:Burn, Antagon, and Sakura have equal scummyness in my mind. Im not sure which of the three I would prefer to lynch today.
So why unvote Burn?

In post 203, Micc wrote:I really just want Antagon to so up and talk with us, but my gut says he wont pick up this prod before being replaced.
So...your vote is meaningless where it is then?

Yup, Im a hypocrite and Ill admit it.

My experience is that bad things happen when there aren't enough wagons early in the game. I'm satisfied with the results of the Burn wagon so I moved to my next scum read.

I sure hope not. Even if he doesn't pick up his prod he will be replaced within 24 hours. Im just as happy with a wagon on his replacement.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:29 pm

So my case on Gale is not scumhunting?

Micc · Post Post #209 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:38 pm

In post 208, Sakura Hana wrote:So my case on Gale is not scumhunting?

I'm going to assume that you are referring to 127. That case was forgettable.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #210 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:41 pm

Idc if you forgot about it? I didn't.

Malakittens · Post Post #211 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:44 pm

Vote Count 1.08With 9 alive it's 5 votes to lynch

Voting for:

*Kytoxid -
*Gale - burn_209 [1]
*Micc -
*Zipperflesh -
*burn_209 - Thor665, Antagon [2]
*Antagon - Zipperflesh, Talah, Micc, Sakura Hana [4] [L-1]
*talah -
*Sakura Hana - Kytoxid [1]
*Thor665 -

Not voting: Gale [1]

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-11-05 16:00:00)

Micc · Post Post #212 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:52 pm

In post 210, Sakura Hana wrote:Idc if you forgot about it? I didn't.

"Forgettable" is a nice way of saying " I couldn't find the actual case." I seriously looked at it for 5 minutes - twice, and cant find much of a case. You called her out for hedging and voted. Thats not exactly committed scum hunting.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #213 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:56 pm

I've been on to her for hedging since the start of the game, I only found more hedging after my catch up post after my V/LA, why doesnt it bother to you that she's hedging yet it bothers to you that i'm supposedly not scumhunting?

Micc · Post Post #214 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:10 pm

In post 213, Sakura Hana wrote:
I've been on to her for hedging since the start of the game
, I only found more hedging after my catch up post after my V/LA, why doesnt it bother to you that she's hedging yet it bothers to you that i'm supposedly not scumhunting?

Please show me where this happened.

Gale looks newbie town. Newbie town has a tendency to hedge. I dont like it any more than you do, but I dont think its scummy.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #215 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:16 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5404476 See my FoS here?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p5407419 Here i gave that random example to see if she actually started doing stuff afterwards.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5416190 Then it's the post you mentioned before.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5416496 I tell her what hedging is in hopes she can start addressing my case on her, yet she ignores it.

Micc · Post Post #216 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:34 pm

Those links don't show that you were on to Gale's hedging prior to voting for him in 127. I see a Fos under a four word long quotation from Gale about RVS and an acronym explanation. But nothing about hedging...

Sakura Hana · Post Post #217 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:37 pm

Yeah ok, maybe not for hedging (for some reason i saw her as hedging since the beginning dunno why), but i've been on to her since the beginning of the game.

Micc · Post Post #218 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:49 pm

In post 203, Micc wrote:Im voting Antagon because he has a wagon and Sakura does not.
Burn, Antagon, and Sakura have equal scummyness in my mind
. Im not sure which of the three I would prefer to lynch today. I really just want Antagon to so up and talk with us, but my gut says he wont pick up this prod before being replaced.

This is no longer true.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sakura Hana

Sakura Hana · Post Post #219 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:53 pm

umm ok?

Malakittens · Post Post #220 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:23 pm

Gale has been prodded.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #221 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:41 pm

Ok now, she was prodded, hopefully she will finally address my case >_>

Thor665 · Post Post #222 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:47 pm

@Sakura - how do you feel about the gamestate in general right now and the wagon on you in more specific?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #223 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:51 pm

In post 222, Thor665 wrote:@Sakura - how do you feel about the gamestate in general right now and the wagon on you in more specific?

On the former, I feel the game's been stale, tho I know I personally been waiting on Gale to finally adress the points I have on her, or others to see what i'm seeing, but the later never happened, my vote on Antagon was in hopes to start moving things back forward.
On my wagon, I'm kind of confused about it, apparently it's caused by me not scumhunting, when i've been scumhunting?

Thor665 · Post Post #224 (ISO) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:22 pm

I have said I've found your contributions lackluster.
I consider that a true statement.

I couldn't even begin to describe your issue with Gale if I was threatened with death otherwise.
The Antagon push feels...skeevy. I'm not sure if you're the skeevy one on it or not though, as some of the pushers there are now pushing you.

Do you have a take on Micc? I keep flip-flopping there.