In post 23, burn_209 wrote: In post 18, DaughterofLuthien wrote:@Thor - Honestly, I didn't refresh the page before posting, so I didn't see Sakura's post. If I had, I probably would have voted for her instead. But I'm going to keep my vote the same for now, since you guys are both still voting for me.
Mind if I ask why you picked me for you random vote, Thor?
Like Sakura said this is a bad excuse as they notify you if new posts have been posted when you hit submit....and like my mom always says "computers dont make mistakes
"
This is just parrating what Sakura said. It just sounds like he's trying to force a scumread on DoL.
In post 31, burn_209 wrote: In post 27, Thor665 wrote:I'm okay with lynching Burn now also.
Hopefully everyone else is a shining ray of ton energy. my sexy beard and manly voice can only take us so far.
Okay with lynching someone a page and a half into the game. Thats careless and jumping the gun early in the game especially when you didnt give a reason as to why you are okay with it.
DaughterofLuthien wrote:
Because we're still in random voting and nobody has any information on anybody. The only thing you know about me is that I messed up a post - I've already given my side of the story and if you choose not to believe me, that's fine. Right now I'm not too worried about two people voting for me.
Also, if I was trying really hard to prove my innocence this early in the game,
wouldn't that be more of an indicator that I
was
scum than otherwise?
Why did you decide to vote for me instead of picking someone else to randomly scope out?
@burn - Yeah, pretty sure computers can mess up. Sorry.
Which is why I have my first town read of the game. I think you just didnt see it or didnt read the post which is shit that i do all the time. How you reacted is what I was really looking after.
So, burn has a problem with a lynch on him on page 2, but doesn't have a problem with a lynch on DoL? I mean, burn is townreading him, but he isn't trying to derail the DoL wagon.
In post 36, burn_209 wrote:How is it "careless" of me to have people I'm willing to lynch.
Are you saying you currently have no one you'd be willing to lynch? If so, what are you doing even voting?
Also, you're sort of passive aggressive asking me my reasons without actually just asking me my reasons. That's weird.
I'm saying that I dont have enough information yet on page 2 to be "okay" with lynching anybody. When I lynch someone Im trying to hit scum, not cross my fingers and take a shot in the dark and hope I hit a bullseye. That is careless to me. I at least try to have an educated guess and have the opportunity to at least convince myself someone is scum before I lynch them.
Why am I voting? The same reason you voted someone. To get the ball rolling during the RVS. I just so happened to like Blonde's username and picked him.
Why does that make her a town read? Do scum's computers not mess up?
It was because of her reaction. She didn't force the issue and admitted to making a mistake and didnt get overly defensive. It just something that she did that in my mind shifts the odds of her being town even if it is a small amout like only 2%.
So, it's careless to lynch you on page 2, but it's not careless to lynch DoL, or anyone else? Survivalism isn't really pro-town.
In post 72, burn_209 wrote:We do need a lot more activity though. Cant scumhunt if no one posts...
This sounds too fake to be concerned. If he really wanted more activity, he would have asked questions and did some scumhunting.
In post 87, burn_209 wrote: In post 74, Thor665 wrote: In post 71, burn_209 wrote:@thor in my opinion when you say you are fine with lynching someone that means, to me, that the person has done something to make you convinced that person is scum. I think being convinced that someone is scum when that person had two posts in the game is careless because it shows that it doesnt take much to convince you of something in the future and the mafia can use that against you and in turn Smurfing all of us because you are a strong player.
If you think I play like that then how can you think I'm a strong player?
And if you think I'm a strong player, how can you think I play like that?
Seems like either way either you are misunderstanding/representing what I'm doing, or I'm a really pathetic player and am of no danger if scum misuse me.
Though I am happy you think I'm town.
Good to know.
I think you are a strong player because you have the most experience out of all the people that are playing. Us townies look up to you and are going to want to follow your lead because you know more than we do due to sheer playing experience. I mean two people have already sheeped you, and one in Gale completely did it blindly which actually raised a red flag and makes me think she could be scum. At least Sakura added a little insight as to why she was doing it. Gale just popped in and dropped a vote. You're influence is what makes you a strong player and honestly you do seem like an intelligent guy. But intelligent people can be careless.
I do think you are town however and probably my biggest town feel at the moment. You have given a shit ton of effort and went on the offensive early of which I would highly doubt a scum player would do.
Your activity, effort, and offensive nature makes me think that you are town.
So, you told Thor that he's careless and that he jumps on the gun, then you townread him? Your top townread? In the bold, scum can be like this. To me, it just seems like he's more worried about finding town rather scum. This is a scumtell because, well, he's calling the real townies as town and he forgot about how he has to "scumhunt".
In post 154, burn_209 wrote:like we are never going to be able to figure out who is scum if we dont have any activity...shit pisses me off
This is scummy. Pretend to be upset about activity and he doesn't do anything about it.
In post 230, burn_209 wrote:Here is my thing about Sakura and anyone that sheeps really to be honest. Sheeping is an easy way to hide a vote and advance a lynch if you are mafia. To me its like "alright here is my chance to advance a wagon without being the one that starts it or the person that hammers it." Its a round about way of covering your bases if you are mafia. Now its one thing to actually agree with the wagon starters logic and vote accordingly but to say "well ill just sheep X player" seems sketchy to me. Its the good old fashioned go with the flow so no one suspects you strategy.
Also it bothers me how much Sakura is on Thor's nuts. If I were mafia the first thing I would do is try to get in good with thor because he is basically running shit in this game. If you were to get in good with him and make him think you are town you could cruise through the game petty damn far as scum. Now a lot of people are "following" what Thor says but none have done it as much as Sakura.
Those are just my thoughts on her at the moment now Im not going to full out call her scum but I am going to keep a close eye on her. I do want to hear more from Gale or Gale's replacement before I switch my vote
So, she's just warming up for a vote on Sakura, whereas her evidence was stuff that happened during RVS... Sakura sheeped Thor on one vote and she's prob scum for (according to burn). Also, why does she need to wait to hear more from Gale? Why not switch votes now?
In post 293, burn_209 wrote:I want your case on me as well. I have yet to hear anyone give a concrete reason as to why I am scum. it would actually be refreshing. Thor doesnt give straight answers and the only reason a lot of other people think I am scum is because Thor says so
So, she comes in and just posts content regarding her scumminess and no scumhunting.
