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Post Post #4850 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:33 pm

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Day 3 - Vote Count #19

kanyeknowsbest (0)
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Belisarius (0)
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waynegg (0)
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pieguyn (5)
- Majiffy, talah, waynegg, Wake88, Belisarius
AGar (0)
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leviathan93 (0)
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- Titus, kanyeknowsbest, Natirasha, pieguyn, AGar, NachoKoopa
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Titus (0)
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No lynch (0)
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- PeregrineV, leviathan93, Svenskt Stål, Pyrotechnics, EspeciallyTheLies

16 votes available
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Post Post #4851 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:41 pm

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In post 4846, AGar wrote: There is serious resistance to a Wake lynch right now, and I dislike this. You're telling me that in a hypothetical multiball setup, we're stalling 3 votes shy of a Wake lynch and he's TOWN?
You misspelled Pie there and he needs 4 votes, not 3 :roll: :lol: :P
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Post Post #4852 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:48 pm

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wayne what the fuck is the point of that comment
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Post Post #4853 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:49 pm

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also I agree I was all for lynching Empking

but saying that's entirely my fault is misrepresentation
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Post Post #4854 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:50 pm

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In post 4846, AGar wrote:we're stalling 3 votes shy of a Wake lynch and he's TOWN
This is interesting...
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Post Post #4855 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:55 pm

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dont fucking replace out pyro wth. were gonna kill the Loud and Bad At Mafia Players today and we can actually make headway 2morrow.
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Post Post #4856 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:04 pm

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In post 4854, waynegg wrote:
In post 4846, AGar wrote:we're stalling 3 votes shy of a Wake lynch and he's TOWN
This is interesting...
In post 4846, AGar wrote: There is serious resistance to a Wake lynch right now, and I dislike this. You're telling me that in a hypothetical multiball setup, we're stalling 3 votes shy of a Wake lynch and he's TOWN?
Grab the whole line, next time.

The full thought helps.
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Post Post #4857 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:21 pm

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Same thing. Adds nothing, takes nothing. There's still town in multiball. Not everybody is scum. But if that's what you think, I think I've determined your alignment... :lol:
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Post Post #4858 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:24 pm

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oh is that how im supposed 2 be scum hunting?
In post 982, waynegg wrote:I'm scum
well ill be, looks like i cracked the case every1
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Post Post #4859 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:48 pm

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:roll:
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Post Post #4860 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:08 pm

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In post 4799, Titus wrote:Majiffy, I don't see it as relevant because Pie gets lynched if Pie kills town. Period. His hypothetical scum buddies will fall in line or stick out as sore thumbs for my vigging. Factionscum or SK is irrelevant. If Pie has a rolecop helping her, we can say sayonara to the blue scums, which is all the more reason to keep Pie. Pie has to go but I don't see the time as now.
So what you're telling me is that instead of killing Pie before he kills our most valuable PR - in order to aid his team the most - we should sit by with our thumbs firmly up our arses thinking "oh yeah he's totally going to help town out on this one, gang!".

Because that's fucking dumb.
In post 4802, Titus wrote:talah, you are a partial gunsmith. Wake is the alleged tracker one. Majiffy is tracker two.
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In post 4810, NachoKoopa wrote:Alignment cop seems like a stupid ability for a scumteam to have, and there seems to be much better ways to use it than "have scum claim vig, investigate people and shoot guilty results".
He claimed vig because that was probably his mod-provided fakeclaim.
They only shot DV because he flipped the other faction.

Are you reading any of my fucking posts?
Seriously, try to keep up with basic logic here Nacho.
In post 4810, NachoKoopa wrote: Pie is group scum requires mafia D1 claiming night vig, controlling their faction's kill, and their faction not only being fully willing to give up their kill, but also willing to look for otherscum and burn the towncred they could get from lynching otherscum via dayplay and instead having their claimed scum member shoot them. It also requires Rau La Flaga to be a one faction scum that has a mental link with complete opposite townie, and it requires Rau La Flaga, that guy who isn't affiliated with anyone, to be factional scum.
Pie as group scum requires noob scum (pie) making a lot of dumb decisions either on his own or potentially with the help of groupscum {Beli/Kanye} giving him a way out at the time of his wagon nearing lynch. This does
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require being "fully willing" to give up the kill, but rather being forced into it.

They have to look for otherscum and kill otherscum anyway, especially with an outted scumbutt who will eventually get lynched, so that's a null argument. Plus one doesn't get towncred for lynching scum when multiball flips are involved.

Rau claim is meh, mental link doesn't mean or do shit as far as I can tell, we don't know if Pyro is a townie. If Pyro isn't town, then it also could/would explain away whatever "not affiliated" bullshit you're espousing regarding Rau, as the claim could be fake.

So again, why aren't we lynching pie?
In post 4830, Titus wrote:A deal that was made, might I add, to encourage scumhunting.
You mean that thing he said ITT that he wasn't doing?

Tell me more about how your deal helps town.
In post 4846, AGar wrote:Majiffy, help me on this one, I swear to god I have good reason as to why we should lynch Wake first.
I have been waiting 3 fucking dayphases to figure out who the rest of the scumbutts are revolving around the pie scenario and frankly if it waits any longer the data won't be of any use because it'll be so fucking buried under so much shit that I won't want to bother.

Pie needs to die
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Post Post #4861 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:47 pm

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In post 4844, Natirasha wrote:Yeah, because scum are pushing for a guaranteed mislynch and sowing discord into the town.

Please don't leave Tammy.
I don't understand the first. Can you explain?

I agree with the second.
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Post Post #4862 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:07 pm

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Lynching SK=not lynching factional scum.
Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
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Post Post #4863 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:08 pm

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In post 4681, Titus wrote:By the way Talah, I could have shot you yesterday, so your positioning argument is crap.
As you reinforce positioning it becomes more credible.
You already said you were out of shots. Then you changed your story to wifom-x-shot vig (with kanye's help) and then anytime vig which you can't use if you've made a dayshot.
Or something like day one dayvig along with x-shot nightvig.

I'm almost through with the "town-wifom" game in this thread. If you're scum you're not hiding behind it anymore. I'm not playing it, you can be honest with your claim or enjoy some vote-parking.

This also goes to just why you would care if pie gets lynched if you have any more shots. You're a vig and town, no? Pie's a serial killer and scum, yes? Or no?

Also, you've made 32 posts in roughly 24 hours - and you're complaining it's hard to read the thread and it's hard to scumhunt.
Do you have a strategy, as town?

talah - 1-shot modified gunsmith (can detect if another player is capable of killing)
Majiffy - 1-shot watcher
Wake88 - Nonconsecutive tracker (tracked Night 1, can track Night 3)

Which of these claims is fake? All of them?
Why are you so concerned about your own safety and simultaneously pushing on all three?
And wanting to keep pie alive because pro-town?
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Post Post #4864 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:09 pm

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In post 4862, Natirasha wrote:Lynching SK=not lynching factional scum.
Too terse. I still don't understand.
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Post Post #4865 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:12 pm

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From scum POV lynching SK is same as lynching town.
Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
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Post Post #4866 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:18 pm

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Yeah but it's not a mislynch. It's a correct lynch. And it eliminates shall-we shan't-we discussion from the thread.

We have 3 claimed PRs who are apparently all capable of using their abilities tonight.

Oh sorry, add Pyro.

Add Titus, that's five.

Add unclaimeds. Why keep pie?
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Post Post #4867 (ISO) » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:18 pm

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Add yourself.
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Post Post #4868 (ISO) » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:12 am

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I'm sure this is all I could be bothered doing tonight. No links or anything and I know a few claims have been missed which I have no impetus to look up right now (eg weg's character and kanye / Nati's natural / coordinator status).
Yell out where things are wrong or need updating, thanks.

I actually need to do a couple ISOs. ISO'd Deas yesterday, and the buddying combo bugged me. Actually implies weg (ha-ha buddying) and Nati (buddying Nati? No, overkill buddying talah!).
Anyway there are a few other discussion points and I hope that's where we're going rather than anywhere else.

Beli was pretty prominently on a few bewildering townread lists, no explanation or anything, pretty much Deas-sheeping-others.

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Post Post #4869 (ISO) » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:52 am

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In post 4862, Natirasha wrote:Lynching SK=not lynching factional scum.
But even if that's the case it allows for town unity and right now the scum clearly have the town divided upon itself.
Wayne's reading...odd, but I think he's trying, he's just decided the quickest way to the market down the street was to create a causality portal and tesseract between the two spaces rather than walking. down. the street. ~ Ghostlin
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Post Post #4870 (ISO) » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:53 am

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In post 4865, Natirasha wrote:From scum POV lynching SK is same as lynching town.
No it's not. A divided town is good for scum. Scum have all the motivation in the world to keep Pie around.
Wayne's reading...odd, but I think he's trying, he's just decided the quickest way to the market down the street was to create a causality portal and tesseract between the two spaces rather than walking. down. the street. ~ Ghostlin
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Post Post #4871 (ISO) » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:17 am

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Svenskt Stål has been prodded.

I will provide an update on the Pyrotechnics slot shortly once I hear back from them.
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Post Post #4872 (ISO) » Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:54 am

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Will respond to this later with my PoV. Have to work.
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Post Post #4873 (ISO) » Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:54 am

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In post 4829, Pyrotechnics wrote:
In post 4825, waynegg wrote:
In post 4813, Pyrotechnics wrote:Oh, I plan to go back and look at all of them and see how he shifted his reads. (For instance I was in his scum pile, until I claimed what I was and then I moved to super town) That's just what I was working with that night. I'll look at the rest and reread through him this weekend.
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Sorry good luck town. Look at my last reads list.
I have always wondered if this is a scum move...not intentionally, just wishing good luck to town. why would you do this even if you were town and replacing out? I have like never seen this.
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Post Post #4874 (ISO) » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:12 am

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