[M] Newbie 1440: Maestro's Manic Mafia - DAY 3

[pirate mollie]

@ tam

well no it didn't make sense cos in none of that have you actually provided a

case

. its why I did not try to sheep you. you get a pass for d1 for being the IC and that's it.

I haven't read the game btw, I like to get in and get reactions based on interactions it is how I get my reads before I read it.

so far it is interesting.

waiting on aphix

not liking smudger's prod dodge.

[scotpgot]

VOTE: scot
I think my vote is safe here for now.

What exactly does THAT mean?

[theslimer3]

hi peabody!

I think you might be wrong about slimer. he is usually lynchbait.

oh TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMM......

where did you go tam

Hi Mollie. Do you think Slim3r's posting style is the main reason I suspect him? If so, can you give me more information about his playstyle as scum and as town?

I think so, yeah. slimer is a player who's playstyle ranges from outright trolling to heavy lurker mode. I have sometimes read him as town and been correct. more dancing required.

Heavy lurker? Outright troller?
I'm glad you have such a high opinion of me e.e

[theslimer3]

VOTE: scot
I think my vote is safe here for now.

What exactly does THAT mean?

If you read what comes directly after that sentence, you'll know.

also sorry for the DP

[aphix]

Waiting on me Mollie? Am I suppose to be replying something to you? Read the game.

[pirate mollie]

Waiting on me Mollie? Am I suppose to be replying something to you? Read the game.

no

how does that sit with you

also that was like the laziest response ever

[theslimer3]

Eh. We can't all lurk our way through this game. Someone has to talk. /:


Btw

9 Hours left till deadline

[The Acting Method]

I do agree with Mollie that was a very lazy response. Mollie so far is seeming very town to me. However, I do need to reread slimer and atlas. However I do like where my vote is at present, for the reasons I kind of explained in my three way ISO earlier.

[theslimer3]

Deadline is in about 8 hours, we have to agree on someone.

And this day has been terrible, so I could go with pretty much anyone. Which is why we should get this going and be sure not to hit a power role on the way down

[pirate mollie]

okay who are we thinking here

[theslimer3]

I'm not so sure, but with 4 hours left and me about to go to bed, I sure would like a consensus

[Naio]

To be honest i dont think enough people are going to log in to change votes. i guess it's going where it's going.

That being said (noob question), is there any way other than the last mod post to get a summary of all the votes?

[theslimer3]

Nope, it's all counted by hand.

Mollie is still at L-2, our closest to being lynched. If anyone has a better idea, now's the.time to speak because he's the lynch by the look of things.

And a claim would be nice if you don't want to die

[scotpgot]

I don't have any read on mollie, but I'm sticking with my vote based on SplashMaster's posts.

[aphix]

@TAM: Honestly I don't have much to say. My game here isn't to convince you that I'm not scum. Yes there was a disagreement between myself and smudger. Yes it was loud and argumentative and at the end of it didn't get anywhere. If anything I'm right my "poor play" might very well let him cost through the game as he seems content to do right now. I get you don't agree with me. That's fine. If you also read 145 I have stated as much the smudger thing isn't going anywhere. I just haven't decided where I'm going yet.

@molly: I'm curious why you'd be waiting for me when you haven't seemed to read the game yet(175). The post came crossed much more curt then I planned it though. Was posting on phone on my break. I should avoid that. My thoughts on you though aren't really positive. Starting in the game slow. Still haven't 'read' the game. TAM gets a pass for being IC? I'm not sure why there, nor do I see him needing a pass. Again don't know why you are waiting on me with a game to read still. Certainly a few small things I agree with but not much going on here, and got negative thoughts from the predecessor. 184 also seems like she's waiting to see what other people think, before saying anything.

So, for now I'm thinking Molly.

VOTE: pirate molly

That does put this at L-1.

[theslimer3]

K, Mollie, claim pls. There's like 2 hours left and I d hate for you to turn up a Doctor or something

[Maestro]

Votecount 1.FINAL - Monday, November 4th @ 2:05 PM EST

scotpgot -

1

^[L-4]

theslimer3
Atlasblade -

1

^[L-4]

pirate mollie
aphix -

1

^[L-4]

The Acting Method
pirate mollie -

4

^[L-1]

scotpgot, Peabody, AtlasBlade, aphix
theslimer3 -

2

^[L-3]

Smudger, Naio

With

[9]

alive it takes

[5]

to Lynch or No Lynch.

Not Voting:

Night 1 Action Deadline is in ... (expired on 2013-11-06 14:05:00)

pirate mollie was Lynched due to plurality at Deadline. She was a

Mafia Goon

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Please note the following two votes were not counted and were purged from the thread, as they occured after deadline.
I've preserved them below for posterity. If you have any questions please refer to my ruleset.

Posting elsewhere onsite, yet not here with no reads or anything helpful.
VOTE: Pirate Mollie
I'll help the mod out here.

well i hate to just jump on the bandwagon but unless mollie says something to his/her defense i guess we just have to go with it.

VOTE: Pirate Mollie

[Maestro]

aphix has been Killed Night 1. They were a

Vanilla Townie

.

Votecount 2.01 - Wednesday, November 6th @ 1:20 PM EST

scotpgot -

0

^[L-4]

Atlasblade -

0

^[L-4]

Naio -

0

^[L-4]

Peabody -

0

^[L-4]

theslimer3 -

0

^[L-4]

Smudger -

0

^[L-4]

The Acting Method -

0

^[L-4]

With

[7]

alive it takes

[4]

to Lynch or No Lynch.

Prods are reset now but I will be keeping a close eye on activity.

Not Voting:

scotpgot, Atlasblade, Naio, Peabody, theslimer3, Smudger, The Acting Method

Deadline is in ... (expired on 2013-11-20 14:20:00)

[Naio]

Well i cant believe we lucked into a scum lynch.

That being said, i'm new but if i look at this, it means we either have a tracker or a cop. and it means the other mafia is not any special role, either way. So basically, as soon as tracker/cop finds the 2nd mafia, you reveal yourself and call them out.

Then of course we have the chance that aphix was the tracker/cop, and we're fucked.
or we have the chance that we mis-lynch the tracker/cop, or they get killed one of the nights.

but either way we are in a really good spot here.

[scotpgot]

gg, Aphix and Splash (and pirate mollie).

I'm at work but will hopefully be home/on tonight to go through some ISOs.

[theslimer3]

VOTE: Naio

[Naio]

VOTE: Naio

thats one of the scummiest things i've seen. i present logic and you vote without an explanation?

[theslimer3]

VOTE: Naio

thats one of the scummiest things i've seen. i present logic and you vote without an explanation?

3. This is my first game played.

I'm an odd one and I do things in very unorthodox methods. (surprisingly it's a scum tell in all my games, especially as town)

it IS my first game but wtf?

VOTE: theslimer3

That vote wasn't random, it was serious, but also a test to see your reaction.
Since you've posted what you said on voting mollie, i've found it strange the way you did so.
Then your post about being a sitbackandwatch player as you have insight made it even more apparent that you're a possible suspect. Something like that just seems like a reason to give you grounds to be a flexible lurker, only needing to post if needed.

But that alone isn't what brought me to you being scum. Yes, partially the vote took the cake, but not the vote alone, but what you said in it's context. In the before text, it was clear that you've known the vote count and knew where it was going, in a Mollie lynch.
After my apparent hammer, and Aphix's very clear L-1 post that he was so kind to make larger for us, you've still decided to announce you're hopping on the bandwagon, rather than overkilling, hammering, or even L-1ing him. That shows a very basic Mafia trait. One that hops on wagons purely for the kill. Whether or not he was your buddy doesn't matter when you're gaining credit either way.

Then there's the vote I places on you. You seemed rather defensive. Any normal player would too, of course. And i'll admit this is quite a stretch, but the way you're calling it the scummiest move, or scum at all is what makes me curios and kind of incriminated you more.

Any normal townie would want to know why. It would be natural for a player to feel pressured and want to see what made them assume why so then could clear themselves, but your immediate logic was to call me scum. Which leaves me to believe that if you were scum, your target of motive would be for the day, me. I would be your direction for a mislynch.

What do you think of this?

[theslimer3]

I won't even mention the setup slip you made. I'll discount that as a noob mistake.
After all, it's kind of confusing wifom to slip that column 2 and A won't be a possibility in this setup.
Let alone that you'd think aphix would be a PR because of it

[Naio]

I'm not going to lie, i dont understand most of what you wrote due to the slang you used. That being said, i just looked at the grid again and yeah i missed the goon in C1. so basically my entire post above doesnt make any sense because it's possible we dont have a cop/tracker.

you make a lot of good points, only 2 of which i disagree with.

1) i dont see why a mafia would jump on a bandwagon while announcing that he's jumping on the bandwagon. if i was mafia trying to jump on the bandwagon, i'd bring a point to why i was voting rather than explicitly stating i was bandwagoning, and then in the future i could say "see i voted for them with this reason!" which is a lot stronger than saying "i voted for them because i was jumping on the wagon!"

2) to me, voting someone without explanation after they made (what i thought) was a legitimate strategy, is still scummy. in fact if YOU are mafia, you would know i'm town, and you're trying to jump on my noob mistakes and get an easy lynch. If i look at it from a 30,000 feet view, i feel it's more likely you are trying to trap a new player and get an easy lynch, than try to draw out a suspected mafia.

so in conclusion, i'm leaning towards you being mafia, not enough to vote for it, but enough to ask you to explain the accusations you made and why they make MORE sense from a town standpoint than from a scum standpoint. after you respond i'm happy to give you my view again.