NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Angry Frat BROs]

I guess Ceph never called Sakura scummy for it, but the editing out the words and pics makes it look intentional to me.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

JacobSavage, AngryFratBoys is conveniently on your wagon (which has run up with absolutely no coherent case of any merit) just like he was on the Guyett wagon (similarly run up with absolutely no coherent case of any merit.) Doesn't that make you wonder? You are clearly not the best lynch right now for a town player, IMO. Why wouldn't he want to lynch between me and Orcinus to clear the air? Why is he just following the easy wagons? There is no town aligned logic that explains this behavior, because he is scum.

This just in, anyone who doesn't want to lynch between likeabauss and orcinus is scum

Ceph, you're scaring me with how cogent you're being :/

wait why

is he actually scaring you

i can't tell and i jumped a little bit because ceph is my strongest townread right now and if my reads on sangres/you/mc weren't so wishy-washy i'd be suggesting a d1 townblock

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I guess Ceph never called Sakura scummy for it, but the editing out the words and pics makes it look intentional to me.

yeah how the fuck do you manage to "accidentally" edit out the three words to a sentence that give it tone and meaning

[Cephrir]

JacobSavage, AngryFratBoys is conveniently on your wagon (which has run up with absolutely no coherent case of any merit) just like he was on the Guyett wagon (similarly run up with absolutely no coherent case of any merit.) Doesn't that make you wonder? You are clearly not the best lynch right now for a town player, IMO. Why wouldn't he want to lynch between me and Orcinus to clear the air? Why is he just following the easy wagons? There is no town aligned logic that explains this behavior, because he is scum.

This just in, anyone who doesn't want to lynch between likeabauss and orcinus is scum

Ceph, you're scaring me with how cogent you're being :/

I'm not sure whether to be complimented, sad, or feel-like-you're-setting-up-to-mislynch-me-later.

Time will tell!

P-edit: I dunno, I feel like no one could do that on purpose and expect no one to notice

[orcinus_theoriginal]

that's just WIFOM

there's not town motivation in that

there's scum motivation but not much

still more than the former tho

[Cephrir]

Yeah, I just think it's a legitimate dumbtell.

I might be willing to lynch Sakura someday, but today is not that day.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

why js over toomai or rc for you?

or any of the other lurkers whose been given absolutely absymal and worrying attention

[Angry Frat BROs]

Sakura ISO:

11: Pushes shitty PL during RVS. I don’t like anyone who did this for obvious reasons (semi-serious PL was for shitty mistake that would never be repeated). Even if you try to justify it with “lol RVS,” it’s still postured in a way to make easier a push onto Hermy later.

The exchange with TIP about yessiree feels strange. Yessiree interrupts her “reaction test,” and TIP goes in and is like “OMG CONFTOWN.” I don’t think it’s a 3-way scum theatre because there’s no way there good enough to think to do something like that, but that exchange makes yessiree and TIP both look worse than Sakura.

I like the transition into voting TIP.

Don’t like that she answered “leash the SK,” but that’s stupid-motivated, not scum-motivated.

Naked-vote onto JS is a little strange, especially because she preemptively justifies the naked-vote. Could be scum trying to avoid any potential fire.

Sakura’s catchup wall post V/LA seems fine. She justifies her play, and asks a decent set of questions.

Don’t like her lack of effort to move me/AP off RC, though. Town typically want to get their townreads working together as much as possible.

I like Sakura’s push on Guyett. She points out where he’s being hypocritical with respect to her play, and aggressively pokes holes in his logic wherever possible.

Her interactions with my other head about the cabd-gambit are… strange… AP’s been AWOL from this game recently, and that interaction is worth more discussion.

I like her cheekiness in post 625

Her logic in how to treat MVP is wtf. It’s a Cerberus with at least one known head; treat it like one.

The way Sakura twists your words around post 1000 comes across more as a lack of understanding, though, whereas with Ceph later it comes across as intentional.

On the whole, I’m leaning town on Sakura. Need to calibrate with AP to see what he thinks once he gets his head back in this game.

[Angry Frat BROs]

re Ceph: Most of this game is full-retarding.

He's not.

That makes me a bit nervous.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

the thing is i once downplayed a player for being too stupid once to be scum

she flipped scum

mara in our first game together

NEVER AGAIN

[TheIrishPope]

Orcinus, you should claim

[sangres]

Orcinus, you should claim

TiP

[sangres]

re Ceph: Most of this game is full-retarding.

He's not.

That makes me a bit nervous.

It shouldn't.

[sangres]

the thing is i once downplayed a player for being too stupid once to be scum

she flipped scum

mara in our first game together

NEVER AGAIN

I've been thinking about a different game.

[TheIrishPope]

Sup Sanguine Resolution

[Angry Frat BROs]

Case on JacobSavage:

His obsession with yessiree’s PL vote on TIP is strange. He obsesses over it more than reasonable.

Everything in 1082 reads as coasty-scum trying to sit in the middle of town opinion. People call Bauss’s shit logic townie, so JS calls it townie. Fluff comment about sangres to look engaged. Throws shade at Orc because there’s now pressure moving his way. Guyett wagon dissolves, so time to actually justify the townread that he gave for no reason earlier. The worst, however, is this:

I like yessire's thoughts on wake. From what I've seen of him this replace out does seem totally not himself.

Followed by:

Any thoughts on what AP/I have posted given that you’ve just finished a game where we were both scum.

Nope because I can't read you to for shit as that game showed.

So he’s implying that he thinks our slot is scummy based on Wake, but without considering anything that AP and I have posted. It looks like him trying to move with the BS that Bauss is spouting without really understanding it himself, so he’s just going to justify a push with as little as possible.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Orcinus, you should claim

#Logic.

[sangres]

Sup.

Vote: orcinus the_original

[likeabauss]

FratBros, do you accept or contest that there is both logic and science behind the disciplines of psychology and sociology?

My reads and cases are generally built heavily on the above. Actions and behaviors, words... they all occur within certain contexts that give them additional meaning. Nuance. That's where this beautiful special snowflake comes from. Its not rocket science, but it is science. I'm sorry if you don't understand it, I'm happy to take the time and explain better if you can formulate questions or thoughts instead of just screaming loudly "UR Dum, F U."

My appeal to Yessiree is an attempt to get his vote. I will continue to make appeals and try to get the votes I need to lynch you. Here's the people I'm hoping I can convince to vote for you:
Hermy
MVP
TIP
Sakura
Yessiree
JacobSavage

I'm hoping they think me credible enough, and that my case against you is more compelling than your angry "Wrong. Dumb." Which is basically all I've heard from your slot since I posted a fleshed out bulleted case against you.

If you're on that list, I'd love to answer questions or hear your opinion about my read or case on FratBros in 1048. I can clarify any points that aren't clear and lay out more complete logic behind each.

[TheIrishPope]

Orcinus, you should claim

#Logic.

I have a pretty good reason for this, trust me.

Sup.

Vote: orcinus the_original

I was expecting this!
VOTE: orcinus

[Sakura Hana]

but the editing out the words and pics makes it look intentional to me.

I didn't "Edit out" anything I just highlighted the part that jumped to me and clicked the quote button, I thought you'd have seen that's what I do everytime I quote something.

But ok i'll run you through my thought process when I saw Ceph's post.

1) I saw the obvious picture saying Egocentric, and i was like "wth?"
2) I read he quoted that thing bauss said and then made a comment saying people not on either of the 2 was scum.
3) I thought he thought one of the 2 was scum and was pushing people to take a side.
4) I didnt remember who Cephrir was voting so I looked at the last vote count.
5) He wasn't voting either of the 2 so that jumped out to me and I asked him the question.

[Cephrir]

Sup.

Vote: orcinus the_original

Dear Nacho,

Why?

Sincerely,
Ceph

[Cephrir]

oh wait

hrm

this is troubling

[Guyett]

Ok so I have no idea what Tip and snagres are up to here...

[sangres]

Dear Cephrir,

I never left. The guy you replaced, Rank, is my brother from another mother. We've been playing mafia together for like 10 years. Him replacing out means he was scum. Means you are scum. You should tread carefully, because between you and FratBoys, I've got two mafia and its still early on D1