Open 533: Pick Your Poison - The End

[beastcharizard]

I have only had one run in with someone suggesting a town bloc and everyone voting together. Everyone in game hated the idea for the same reason PhD hates them. In the end it would have probably helped a lot. Only because the proposed bloc was all town. The person proposing it also said that it would help scum hunt. If you just hit consecutive town then you are likely to have scum in the block and that would greatly narrow down options.

I am not sure how it would work here but it isn't something that should be shot down automatically.

[YellowKingValley]

Busy but chirping in...

Townbloc from reads alone is shit. Possible scum infiltration.

Proper townbloc should consist of uncced PRs and night action results.

I refuse to join any townbloc.

[Hot Cheetos]

The first is null, and the second is not a town move in the slightest, town would never (or at least should never) point out PR possibilities. Scum worried about being lynched would as a hint to his team mates though.

Should never doesn't mean would never.

it's a reason to vote Egg who is being unimaginably scummy.

Why is he being unimaginably scummy?

So, fellow members of the townbloc.

ETL, Venrob, or PhD today?

I probably won't vote ETL today. I'll vote Venrob or PhD though!

How do you not get this? I don't exactly have a problem with these players but since there is a chance all of them could still be scum a bloc is a stupid plan. I don't have an issue with you reads I have an issue with the fact you want to do a town bloc.

What happens if there's scum in the bloc that's so horrible?

[PhDScar]

@Nic I really like ETL for his plan to lynch you day 2. It was just so crazy I could never see scum doing it; it’s really only something you see from convinced town. Also it had plans for multiple days and what to do depending on flips, which is something you don't see as often from scum as they just focus from one lynch to the next.
If people on the bloc still keep a close eye on the others in the bloc, still call them out for scummy behavior and don't let them cruise by, I guess I'll be fine with it.

I'll get some Venrob and Egg cases up tomorrow hopefully. I'm not busy just lazy.

Pedit
@HC people tend to start treating players in town blocs as confirmed town despite not being confirmed. So if a scum is in the bloc it allows them to lynch town day after day until victory or the bloc falls apart.

[beastcharizard]

A town bloc isn't a these people will never be lynched bloc or a ignore all scummy things you do bloc.

[Venrob]

blocs = stupid. And any bloc with HC in it is not a town bloc.....

[notscience]

Oh yeah BC is in it too

Some people are butthurt they aren't part of the cool kids club

[NicCage]

Venrob can you like do something for serious so the rest of us can read you?
You can say HC is scum all you want but that isn't convincing and you know that.
What movie did you see?

[Venrob]

I'm v/la still. Time for short posts when i change from computer to mobile or etc., but no time to analyze or such. Until tuesday. BC is OK, no specific read either way- probably because i have scum in my sights. Given if HC is scum YKV is officially clear. Which means right now i have little choice but to towread ykv associatively. gtg

[NicCage]

That's my favorite movie.
Nice try on the excuses.

[Hot Cheetos]

Sort of prod dodge, barely any time to get on right now as dinner plus a movie with dad in like under a minute, but well post.

Just for the sake of saying something pertinent to the game:
HC IS SCUMZ GAIZ LYNCH HIM NAOW

Why has this guy not been lynched yet?

[Egg]

Remind me where someone posted a solid case on him that wasn't just lack of content.

[Hot Cheetos]

He had his day 1 excuse. Ok. Day 2 we had other priorities. Ok. But now it's day 3. How many more days are we going to allow him to keep coasting through this game?

[Egg]

But why is he scum?

[Venrob]

Sort of prod dodge, barely any time to get on right now as dinner plus a movie with dad in like under a minute, but well post.

Just for the sake of saying something pertinent to the game:
HC IS SCUMZ GAIZ LYNCH HIM NAOW

Why has this guy not been lynched yet?

He had his day 1 excuse. Ok. Day 2 we had other priorities. Ok. But now it's day 3. How many more days are we going to allow him to keep coasting through this game?

I'm V/LA due to having time to spend with my dad as mom left the state for a while. I will be back on with more activity when the V/LA ends; which is tomorrow. In the meantime, lynch HC.

[Kalimar]

I think if I replace everyone who hits 3 mechanically, I will end up replacing more people than I want to. I'm trying to be a little reasonable here, as I'd prefer to not replace if I can, but I also don't want to upset the flow of the game.

This has now been amended into the rules, as follows...

A total of three prods will result in eligibility for replacement. I would love to not have to replace anyone and will handle inactivity-based replacements on a case by case basis with the view of trying to maintain a good flow to the game.

[YellowKingValley]

[beastcharizard]

And the point of that post was?

Also, are we all just sitting here waiting for Venrob to do something or what?

[Egg]

That or a case against him. Or a wagon on ETL or PhD

[NicCage]

If he doesn't do something soon I'd be willing to vote Venrob.

[Venrob]

Spoiler: HC ISO in it's entirety.

VOTE: egg

vote today!

RVS, null.

I am trying to catch up on work today as I have been sick. Will have more time tomorrow

Probably legit excuse, considering next post just a page later.

Vote: Banakai

NicCage is town.
Eagle is town.
NS is town.
mnem is town.

Unexplained bana vote. We now know bana was town. Town on NicCage and ns, do note. Also mnem and the dead Eagle.

Probably IC, 2-shot Vig, and Tracker.

If scum picked any other roles, they probably fucked up.

Distancing from the scum team in general, with exception that if he is scum those are the roles. Meaning if he is scum he is scum with Nic. Of course distancing, so if he is that's probably not the chosen team.

Can you tell me why you are voting Banakai?

Read his iso and you tell me

Dodging a question.

I was lieing about being IC,
Pretty sure notscience was too

Still not liking Nic. He's over reacting abit and he still hasn't said why he's calling that post "WIFOM"

Nic is town. This is weak reasoning.

The whole cc was stupid. Backing out of it was stupider and then making a joke about town being the only ones to joke in RVS takes the cake.

Defending Nic in the first line, then chainsawing.

Can you tell me why you are voting Banakai?

I hated his counterclaim and subsequent role-fishing.

Hot Cheetos are you a hydra

Yes. Now identify this head.

When should our 1-shot use his/her night action?

Immediately before they die so that their ability is not wasted? Which means N1.
Or wait until there are clearer scum suspects? Which means N3.

All limited power roles should use their power immediately.

Got an . Team NicCage, Hot Cheetos and notscience.

The scumread on notscience surprises me.

The enlargened was pointed out to be staged. The question does seem a bit random, if you look at it's context. Or lackthereof. The answer seems like... Answering an out of place question. Could be staged. Not quite sure the intent though....

No, I mean that they shouldn't hold their shots for any reason.

Yeah, vig should shoot town both of the first nights so scum wins. GG.

One-shot cop claiming day 2 is kind of a gotcha, though.

Well yeah obv.

Maybe we should vote who to lynch, kill and investigate!

I wouldn't mind directing the vig.
Directing the cop/tracker is problematic since mafia can dodge the tracker.

Hmmm.... Scum contributing to the vig's decision at shooting? Seems.... A bit OP if the vig had townread on them.

What are your thoughts on beast NS?

Hmm..... Seems legit.

Guys, we should be voting hermy.

Why?

Distancing, possibly due to YKV pointing out staged talks.

Eh I guess nothing really happened accept a bunch of bickering

Anyways I have more scum reads now:

Nic cage
cheeto
and yellowkingvalley

Happy where my vote is. This post is a whole bunch of nothing.

that gives reads. Given it also gives fluff, it gives reads.Whole bunch of nothing? not quite....

I can't really provide an example, since it's ongoing, but I can tell this is not town Nic.

If all of your examples are ongoing, you don't have a big enough meta base to analyze him.

Guys, we should be voting hermy.

Seems town. Why do you disagree?

lmfao what the real fuck is this

Did that above post really just happen

It was quite town when it did.

Buddying Hermy and distancing ns.

Nic cage
cheeto
and yellowkingvalley

Could us pegging you as scum be the reason we appeared on your scumlist?

Null reasoning; works as either alignment.

Is your new meta being completely useless? There was literally no point in your last two posts so you are just mucking up the thread.

VOTE: YellowKingValley

I can just feel that you are scum.

Hmmm.... Legit. Legit meaning works as town, though possibly also as scum.

Eh I guess nothing really happened accept a bunch of bickering

Anyways I have more scum reads now:

Nic cage
cheeto
and yellowkingvalley

I have found my two scum. There we go!

VOTE: beast

why not vote banakai with me?

Pushing bana.

HURT: Venrob

There is our vote for kill target.

AAand he votes me. No reasoning. Well, killvote.

Why did that look quite town?

Frustration/confidence seems genuine. I doubt there's a scumplayer in the world who is not confident enough to fake reads and scumhunting, but is confident enough to make a "this is why I'm town" post like that.

Distancing ns and buddying Hermy. Given that I like his reasoning for Hermy town.....

Top 3 scum: banakai venrob beast

top 3 town: ns mnem baldeagle

Bana, me, and beast. Give reasons?

Fuck!

Well, I guess scum got what they wanted

Sorry nic. Would have loved to keep playing with you...

Jump on the banakai wagon for towncred

Response to Nic claiming. Anyone notice that Nic didnt die? As claimed cop? AND HE GOT A RESULT? Not jailk'd. Not killed. Wut.

Stahp! Vote Cheetos!

"Vote Banakai for towncred"
(Everyone sheeps)

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!

you a scum partner Venrob?

I've been voting ban since p1

HURT: Venrob

I hadn't read as much as i would have liked yet. Slight overreaction. But still in response to my post, fair enough.

He's a liar.

What makes you so convinced he's a liar?

...

Actually his paranoia is seeming quite town to me

Townreading Ykv. For suspecting him. Hmmm...

Any info from it?

And we get to the latest post. Seeming staged; with nic's "I used my shot."

Scum HC, shows reasoning for town Hermy, scum ns/Nic. More toward scum Nic than scum ns.

[NicCage]

I'm confused by your conclusion. HC never said I was scum?

[YellowKingValley]

I'm confused by your conclusion. HC never said I was scum?

Too hard to understand? Guilty by association.

[Egg]

Venrob, you said in that ISO that if Hot Cheetos is scum, the roles he thinks scum should have picked (Vig, IC, Tracker) are the roles in the game. YES was JK. Either you were wrong or Hot Cheetos is town (so you're still wrong). Why continue pushing this at that point? Also, realizing how many people are townreading Hot Cheetos, why not accept that he won't be lynched today and try finding his buddy if you still think he is scum? Or do you still believe it's Nic or Notscience?

Also, Nic still being alive isn't a huge deal. N1 I can see scum not wanting their kill stopped. N2, they went after the power role who counterclaimed a scum leading to their lynch. It makes perfect sense that Nic would still be alive as a power role whose ability is already used up.

[NicCage]

I'm confused by your conclusion. HC never said I was scum?

Too hard to understand? Guilty by association.

It is too hard to understand, what's the association?