Open 536: Faith Plus One Game Over! Mafia Win!

[T S O]

So I've got this thing I've started doing where I analyse the whole game's alignment using RVS and although I'm shit-scared of getting modkilled/forcerep'd, I don't think it's breaking the rules to say I tried it in one game and it worked.

So what I'm basically saying is that I'm also going to use it this game and if you don't like it you can go fuck yourself. If you do like it, then happy times ahead.

I don't see it breaking the rules.

[helium-3]

So I've got this thing I've started doing where I analyse the whole game's alignment using RVS and although I'm shit-scared of getting modkilled/forcerep'd, I don't think it's breaking the rules to say I tried it in one game and it worked.

So what I'm basically saying is that I'm also going to use it this game and if you don't like it you can go fuck yourself. If you do like it, then happy times ahead.

Well, it's very simple. Is the game ongoing? If so, don't talk about it.

There, see how easy that was?

Also, another hint, preemptively telling people to go fuck themselves usually does not end well.

[T S O]

Yeah, after being force-replaced a few times I think I get that.

Me telling people to go fuck themselves is my way of saying that idrgaf if you don't like it.

yeah probably shouldn't tell people to go fuck themselves...

[Guyett]

I'll get a read done later but for now

VOTE: Taylor

[shos]

lol post 370 is a case against me? ahah lemme get that x)

post 97 is like the first post in the game for me, you guys rubbled through 4 pages before I even blinked in 1 hour. so that was entirely not content; I literally played with all the players in here(almost) and I love the playerlist, that's about it, lol. wonder why you'd even include it in such a post.

98 is my first content post. having read the first 4 pages, I saw no reason to vote Xscorp at the time and saw the wagon was piling, so I asked if there's a real reason there or is that still RVS.

about 210: when you ISO people out of context, this is what happens. if you read that post in context, you'll see that he asked SPECIFICALLY what they thought about *me*. considering the fact that I barely even posted in the game at the time, I wondered why he would ask about me. scum tend to just ask questions to look like they're participating, and then just not follow up on them.

@212 & 214: once again, read in context. he was doubted for 'agreeing with a scumread' iirc. my point was that it's ok. the logic that makes me FoS someone who would all of a sudden write a long post about me for what was 4, maybe 5 posts with little content is that one can simply not gather soooo much info on a person from such few content. I know what I'm posting in a game, and by that time, that was almost nothing of real FLESH. if you picked a person's first 5 posts including RVS and built a case based on them - that's totally pushing for it and in no chance may come from town. the only exception I can think of is like faking a case to fish for reactions(I did it once ), but let's leave that cuz it's offtopic.

how is 220 mimicing activity?
it appears that all three of me, scorp and mollie played simultaniously in 2 games, so it felt like many people call him scorpthing, that's basically it. not every post you make in a game is 100% game related, you know, a goal of having fun does exist >_>

last quotes: I'm not

defending you

. I'm

attacking

those who call you scum for a faulty reason. nitpicking is something I'd consider a scumtell. the townread that I got on you from that post was fairly weak, the fact that you got all bashed up for it by multiple people means imo that you're town being run up by scum. it kinda collides with my theory that scum are lurking, but it takes priority, since all 3 scum lurking doesn't really make sense. so basically I think that one of those who are trying to get you lynched for that 'quicklynch' notation is scum, that you are town, and that the two other scum are in the pool of inactives/less active guys.

done with p15

[shos]

I'll get a read done later but for now

VOTE: Taylor

see, here's a lurkerscum that I was talking about!

[Guyett]

Do tell how I'm a lurker? I just replaced into the game in Phok's slot

[bubbajack8]

If you hadn't noticed Guyett replaces phokdapolees. VoteCount coming up.

[bubbajack8]

The mod screws up and gives helium-3 two votes. Hydras do not get two votes. The town wonders how they can get back at him, the answer they can't. So they decide to win the game in honor of bubbajack8's screwup

Vote Count 0.8
Grimgroove (2) : N64Lord, helium-3 XScorpion (1) : Taylor Taylor (4) : Paschendale, willwang123, XScorpion, Guyett Shos (1) : Blueberry Helium-3 (1) : Grimgroove Not Voting (4) : T S O, Obscurity, shos, pieceofpecanpie
With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2013-11-27 17:18:00)
Willwang V/LA until 11/17

Mod Note: I'm very upset with all of you. You failed to realize helium was voting 2 people in the votecounts. It has been fixed

[shos]

well then phokda lurked~
either way you came in and voted my only true solid townread which is in coincidence the biggest wagon..

anyway, I forgot to vote once I finished reading, so thar shall be VOTE: Xscorp

[Guyett]

my vote is not serious if you weren't sure... think of it as a joke vote

[XScorpion]

A joke vote for the biggest wagon? Why don't I believe you?
Also I am interested in shos pulling a complete 180 from post 100. Can you explain this?

[Guyett]

has the identity of that slot been made public yet?

It wasn't the biggest wagon when I voted (it was joint biggest )
UNVOTE:
Until my read

[XScorpion]

TSO can you explain why town shouldn't lynch you?

[shos]

A joke vote for the biggest wagon? Why don't I believe you?
Also I am interested in shos pulling a complete 180 from post 100. Can you explain this?

first line: +1
second line: well duh, that was less than 24 hours from gamestart, and 300 posts ago. you posted BOOKS since. am I obliged to keep a third-post read through the entire game?

TSO can you explain why town shouldn't lynch you?

[shos]

A joke vote for the biggest wagon? Why don't I believe you?
Also I am interested in shos pulling a complete 180 from post 100. Can you explain this?

first line: +1
second line: well duh, that was less than 24 hours from gamestart, and 300 posts ago. you posted BOOKS since. am I obliged to keep a third-post read through the entire game?

TSO can you explain why town shouldn't lynch you?

why should it?

^^^EBWOP

[T S O]

Not particularly, seeing as I've done nothing wrong.

[Guyett]

Since one of the heads of the taylor hydra told me about the replacement slot I joke voted for them...

[Taylor]

Alright, I'm here. Work boggled me down yesterday and T told me not to lose any sleep, so I followed T's advice to delay until today.

alright, well I learned that taylor is scummy now and Xscorpion doesn't like hydras

Scummy, but most certainly not scum.

@Taylor: It is absolutely not up to you what is or is not "alignment indicative".

Oh, Pasche, ye of little faith. You can be a good player, but this is certainly not you at your finest. The things I declared not indicative of alignment are things that

were decided before we

had

an alignment

. It's equivalent to accusing a player of lying about being on V/LA. It's not indicative of alignment because it's something happening outside of our alignment.

When it comes to the points I said were null (there's a difference between "not indicative of alignment" and "null"), you can argue otherwise. But I have no reason to lie about it being null.

That you think you can control everyone's perception of you and that you are trying so hard to do that definitely comes across as scummy.

It's what I do.

You might not know it yet, Pasch. But bluntly, drop the push against us. Because by the end of the game, it'll become painfully apparent we are town. I say it because it's true. Not because I want to control people's perception of me. They perceive me as being town, they're right. As scum, they're wrong. It's as simple as that.

Your attacks are focused on people attacking you, and your posts are all about how other people are wrong to suspect you.

On the contrary! Most of our attacks have been on players who later attack US. (Chronology is important.) But there are plenty of players who've attacked us that we're townreading. You, for instance, and to some extent helium.

You're town, Pasch. I know you are, you know you are. But I'm also town. We're also town. I can see where you're coming from. But simply put, it's wrong. We aren't scum. We're about as far from it as you can get.

I have to say that taylor's repeated townclaims look bad.

Only because, somehow, our anonymity has remained in-tact.

I'm saying I'm town because I am town. Period. That's the end of the discussion as far as I'm concerned.

That said...you're town, here shos. (Again.) But your GG read is off. (This time.)

I don't think this is Grim's town game. I've never seen him spampost like this as town. I'm used to seeing a town-him wall, so I

really

think that he landed a scum card this game. Such a sudden shift in playstyle without explanation typically means a shift in alignment. (Well, if you're not me, at least. )

XScorp might actually be town, but I'm not as certain about this.

[XScorpion]

Not particularly, seeing as I've done nothing wrong.

I may be confused as to what your post meant, but are you going to be analyzing alignments exclusively based on RVS behavior?

A joke vote for the biggest wagon? Why don't I believe you?
Also I am interested in shos pulling a complete 180 from post 100. Can you explain this?

first line: +1
second line: well duh, that was less than 24 hours from gamestart, and 300 posts ago. you posted BOOKS since. am I obliged to keep a third-post read through the entire game?

You are obliged to explain your votes though.

You're town, Pasch. I know you are, you know you are. But I'm also town. We're also town. I can see where you're coming from. But simply put, it's wrong. We aren't scum. We're about as far from it as you can get.

Honestly what is with you and buddying? This is the third time now.

[XScorpion]

Since one of the heads of the taylor hydra told me about the replacement slot I joke voted for them...

Why are you joke voting when we are on page 16? Do you plan to slide through this game completely unnoticed?

[XScorpion]

has the identity of that slot been made public yet?

It wasn't the biggest wagon when I voted (it was joint biggest )
UNVOTE:
Until my read

Whoa whoa wait a second
This is a lie
The next biggest wagon was GG with 2 votes, and Taylor had 3.
What are you trying to pull here?!?

[Guyett]

has the identity of that slot been made public yet?

It wasn't the biggest wagon when I voted (it was joint biggest )
UNVOTE:
Until my read

Whoa whoa wait a second
This is a lie
The next biggest wagon was GG with 2 votes, and Taylor had 3.
What are you trying to pull here?!?

Yes you're right. I miscounted

[Taylor]

Honestly what is with you and buddying? This is the third time now.

Fuck buddying being a scumtell. That's what. I'll buddy as much as I'd like to, your objections be damned.

VOTE: Grimgroove.

I'm back in the game, though I expect some synching up with my partner is still needed.

[T S O]

Not particularly, seeing as I've done nothing wrong.

I may be confused as to what your post meant, but are you going to be analyzing alignments exclusively based on RVS behavior?

Most certainly not, but it will factor in.

1/4 through the game.