Red Wine Mafia: Game Over

[Natirasha]

The thing is, your play is exactly like Dot:A. So you're scum. Simple, really.

TSO stop being stupid.

I have no idea on why this ABR wagon exists. It seems really lazy.

PEDITS: I'll get to them.

[Katsuki]

Your slot is incredibly scummy nati what do you have to say for yourself

[Natirasha]

How are you townreading Espeonage EtL?

[T S O]

I don't understand how you came to that conclusion.

PEDIT: His play is like Dot:A, he was scum in Dot:A.

=-_-=

[Natirasha]

Your slot is incredibly scummy nati what do you have to say for yourself

Am I scummy or Empire scummy?

[Natirasha]

I don't understand how you came to that conclusion.

PEDIT: His play is like Dot:A, he was scum in Dot:A.

=-_-=

Nah he was a lot lighter and troll-y there.

[T S O]

Are you townreading him?

[Natirasha]

No.
I was leaning scum on him at first. Curious to see if you keep that read intact as you catch up.

Yeah, the read stays. I'm definitely keeping him as my vote over ABR. I did like Cephrir's comment on him approaching Titus/waynegg-tier, though, and I could see the argument.

Bad coimparison given that moid error had us confirmed to each other by like my third post.

Disagree, ffery didn't see it that way.

Why I am being? Or why I was being? Because, I don't really feel defensive at this point.

The game pace was slow and the actual content by several players has been pretty low throughout. I had trouble getting stuck into the game.

Overall your posts have this guarded feel to them that I don't really ever get from you, although, yes it has lessened some in the past ~6 pages or so.

Are you townreading him?

He's one of my stronger townreads.

[T S O]

It makes me very sad that no-one agrees with me.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

The thing is, your play is exactly like Dot:A. So you're scum. Simple, really.

TSO stop being stupid.

I have no idea on why this ABR wagon exists. It seems really lazy.

PEDITS: I'll get to them.

Then you aren't reading between the lies.

How are you townreading Espeonage EtL?

Genuine posts that seem to have the intention of getting to the bottom of people's reads and statements. Lots of good questions, good pushes. He also didn't hop on the easy, obvlynchbait wagons. Like ABR.

[Cabd]

No.
I was leaning scum on him at first. Curious to see if you keep that read intact as you catch up.

Yeah, the read stays. I'm definitely keeping him as my vote over ABR. I did like Cephrir's comment on him approaching Titus/waynegg-tier, though, and I could see the argument.

Bad coimparison given that moid error had us confirmed to each other by like my third post.

Disagree, ffery didn't see it that way.

Why I am being? Or why I was being? Because, I don't really feel defensive at this point.

The game pace was slow and the actual content by several players has been pretty low throughout. I had trouble getting stuck into the game.

Overall your posts have this guarded feel to them that I don't really ever get from you, although, yes it has lessened some in the past ~6 pages or so.

Are you townreading him?

He's one of my stronger townreads.

Disagree with you disagreeing, ask her yourself, she was putting on a show for feirei's sake.

[Cabd]

It makes me very sad that no-one agrees with me.

I'm not giving him a free townpass, if it makes you feel any better.

[T S O]

It does, but I feel like everyone is just "lol it's the moron, he's shit, he's town but we'll ignore him."

Because I did show a portion of the Katsuki case and I cannot comprehend how, reading it, you could find him Town. Cephrir at least looked at it.

[Natirasha]

It makes me very sad that no-one agrees with me.

To be fair, his points against you are also bad.

Then you aren't reading between the lies.

Spell it out for me.

Genuine posts that seem to have the intention of getting to the bottom of people's reads and statements. Lots of good questions, good pushes. He also didn't hop on the easy, obvlynchbait wagons. Like ABR.

It sounded like a lot of fluffy questions(see: EVERY INTERACTION BETWEEN FFERY AND HIM) to put up the illusion of content to me.

We're in agreement that ABR is lynchbait though.

[T S O]

oh his points against me are horrific, I just can't see how my points are.

I mean every wagon atm excluding possibly ABR is shit.

[Natirasha]

Disagree with you disagreeing, ask her yourself, she was putting on a show for feirei's sake.

Fooled me.

[T S O]

And I think people are bandwagoning a read on Pjovek as Town - he spammed and now he's lurking and I hate that because it's unnatural.

[fferyllt]

Bad coimparison given that moid error had us confirmed to each other by like my third post.

Disagree, ffery didn't see it that way.

Actually I did see it that way, I just couldn't be too obvious about it at the time because about a third of the player list was also playing Newbie 1436, where scum-me was in the middle of a fake paranoid meltdown about Cabd.

I was also trying not to break feirei's game any worse than it was already broken. :/

Why I am being? Or why I was being? Because, I don't really feel defensive at this point.

The game pace was slow and the actual content by several players has been pretty low throughout. I had trouble getting stuck into the game.

Overall your posts have this guarded feel to them that I don't really ever get from you, although, yes it has lessened some in the past ~6 pages or so.[/quote]

If you want examples, I can give you links to a couple games where I had similar difficulty getting grounded. But...self-meta.

[Cephrir]

Page 15. Really wish GIF had posted some before leaving me with the inscrutable Cephrir.

Agree VERY strongly with Espeonage-scum
Agree slightly less strongly with ABR-scum

I'm flattered, this coming from the master of unreadability himself, but it actually isn't that difficult.

Looks like you changed your mind on ABR though D:

I actually like ABR's posts on page 22.

Pray tell, because they still sound stilted as hell to me.

It makes me very sad that no-one agrees with me.

It makes me very sad that you keep making posts like this one instead of making an attempt to move on to other things.

The thing is, your play is exactly like Dot:A. So you're scum. Simple, really.

TSO stop being stupid.

I have no idea on why this ABR wagon exists. It seems really lazy.

PEDITS: I'll get to them.

Then you aren't reading between the lies.

How are you townreading Espeonage EtL?

Genuine posts that seem to have the intention of getting to the bottom of people's reads and statements. Lots of good questions, good pushes. He also didn't hop on the easy, obvlynchbait wagons. Like ABR.

Is it just me or are you both suspecting and not suspecting ABR in this post while also voting him o.o

[Natirasha]

oh his points against me are horrific, I just can't see how my points are.

We have roughly the same meta experience with Katsuki, considering I was the mod of DotA and I had experience with scum-Kat in NikPick 3. In both games, Katsuki was a lot more combative and troll-y. He didn't really exhibit this same willingness to actually, you know, do things.

PEDIT: Then I guess redact that point, Cabd/ffery.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

We're in agreement that ABR is lynchbait though.

No. ABR is scum. He's about the only one here, besides Espeonage, I'm practically certain of. When pjo was catching heat, he slipped onto that wagon. When it died and people were pressuring mindgamer (now BBmolla), he did the same thing. When that got replaced and the Espeonage wagon was growing, there he is again. And I can almost guarantee that wagon is scum driven. The first two didn't need to be. This one is. If I'm wrong about Esp, I will stfu for the rest of the game. But I'm like 99% Esp is town.

I'm saying that Espeonage didn't jump at the chance to lynch pjo or mindgamer when the wagon was gathering steam.

Like ABR did.

p-edit: no, ceph. nat just misunderstood me.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

And ABR is like the only one who was on all of them, that I had no town tells from.

[T S O]

So Cephrir, who do you think is scum?

[Katsuki]

Your slot is incredibly scummy nati what do you have to say for yourself

Am I scummy or Empire scummy?

eh just felt like seeing what you'd say I have no idea what your slot is.

[Katsuki]

It makes me very sad that no-one agrees with me.

It makes me very sad that you're scum.