Open 536: Faith Plus One Game Over! Mafia Win!

[sthar8]

And that's why we replace lurkers

Majiffy, are you town?

[pieceofpecanpie]

Majiffy, are you town?

[Majiffy]

46 pages?

How long do I have to put off reading before the thread is locked and you can't hassle me anymore?

[Majiffy]

Oh, 3 days. Yeah that shouldn't be an issue.

[sthar8]

Majiffy, are you town?

Obviously never played with majiffy before.

[Majiffy]

I'll read this "later".

[bubbajack8]

Someone says things like weedle weedle, and patchity patch patch. Guyett points the gun at himself, but quickly reaims it back at shos. "In advertising not to be different is virtually suicidal." -William Bernbach

Vote Count 0.16
Taylor (2) : Paschendale, N64Lord Shos (3) : Blueberry, sthar8, Guyett Guyett (4) : T S O, Shos, Grimgroove, pieceofpecanpie Paschendale (1) : Taylor Obscurity (1) : helium-3 Blueberry (1) : XScorpion Not Voting (1) : Majiffy
With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2013-11-29 15:18:00)

[XScorpion]

My thoughts:

I don't like the overreaction from helium to pasch's post. Seems unnecessary and I really really don't like the "you are a complete and total fucking idiot if you think that is the best post in the game." This is helium working way too hard to get people to not vote for/suspect them.
I like my blueberry vote and am not sure what makes anyone think he is town.
Don't like Taylor defending helium, but I do like attention being brought to the fact that pecan is actively lurking.
I have a feeling that 1 of Pasch or Helium is scum but I am not sure which. If pasch is scum that doesn't really help me identify his partners, but I am pretty confident taylor and helium are on the same team.
Huge scumpoints for shos trying to get obscurity lynched using obscurity's last post. Pasch's post isn't the best post in the game, but 1067 could be one of the worst.

Looking at the two wagons, I am not opposed to lynching either one, although I'd prefer the shos lynch. Since we're getting close to deadline, I will go back to VOTE: shos even though I dislike being on the same wagon as Blueberry. Very interested to hear thoughts about the two wagons from everyone who is not on them (Pasch, N64, Taylor, Helium, Majiffy).
Also Majiffy I would really like it a lot if you gave as much content as you could before the lynch because no one has any idea about the alignment of that slot and if they say they do they are wrong.

Also my connection to mafiascum.net has been really sketchy lately so I apologize if I am slow with posting or don't get a chance to communicate effectively. I'll try to respond to anyone who has questions for me as soon as possible though.

[helium-3]

I don't like the overreaction from helium to pasch's post. Seems unnecessary and I really really don't like the "you are a complete and total fucking idiot if you think that is the best post in the game." This is helium working way too hard to get people to not vote for/suspect them.

Here, let me save you some effort, scorp.

"Antihero and mollie are scum. I've determined this and I'm dead set on it no matter what they say or what they do or what anyone else tells me about them. And this latest thing that I'm quoting is scum motivated. Period."

Just post this in every post you mention us, and we'll be good for the rest of the game.

[shos]

Why do everyone misrep me so hard

Will respond from home at evening

[helium-3]

Also Majiffy I would really like it a lot if you gave as much content as you could before the lynch because no one has any idea about the alignment of that slot and if they say they do they are wrong.

lol, this coming from someone heaping the "scumpoints" on anyone who even gives the obscurity slot a funny look

You know, scorp, I've been holding my tongue, but I'm getting fed up with you scumreading us regardless of what we do, turning mollie's playstyle into a scumtell, and chainsawing everyone attacking the obscurity slot

[XScorpion]

@Helium: If I was dead set on it, I'd have voted you by now. I still don't see why you are being so antagonistic. There isn't a need to flip out whenever someone suggests they think you are scum, and insulting people for thinking so is hardly helpful and only serves to further convince them you are suspicious. I see where you are trying to come from with your voting/scumhunting strategy but it's really unhelpful to the rest of us how your thoughts are unclear at times. It's also hard to get a read on you when no one is pressuring you


p-edit:

Also Majiffy I would really like it a lot if you gave as much content as you could before the lynch because no one has any idea about the alignment of that slot and if they say they do they are wrong.

lol, this coming from someone heaping the "scumpoints" on

anyone who even gives the obscurity slot a funny look

You know, scorp, I've been holding my tongue, but I'm getting fed up with you scumreading us regardless of what we do, turning mollie's playstyle into a scumtell, and

chainsawing everyone attacking the obscurity slot

The fuck are you talking about? Literally shos is the only person I've accused of that, and only after Obscurity replaced out. I WAS TALKING ABOUT VOTING OBSCURITY MYSELF JUST A FEW PAGES AGO!

[helium-3]

There isn't a need to flip out whenever someone suggests they think you are scum

...this seems familiar (grim groove at the beginning of this game?)...

...nah...

[helium-3]

The fuck are you talking about? Literally shos is the only person I've accused of that, and only after Obscurity replaced out. I WAS TALKING ABOUT VOTING OBSCURITY MYSELF JUST A FEW PAGES AGO!

i guess i projected pasch and grim's attitude onto you. oh well.

[XScorpion]

There isn't a need to flip out whenever someone suggests they think you are scum

...this seems familiar (grim groove at the beginning of this game?)...

...nah...

You aren't wrong. I never said I approved of GG's play, I just don't think he's scum. Maybe you aren't either, heck, I can think of several players (shos, Blueberry, pecan) who I think are more likely scum than you. I'm just not 100% convinced you're town.

[helium-3]

and at the risk of a bare-knuckle brawl with majiffy, i'm still pretty sure obscurity is a scum slot

people think that you need a certain amount of "content" to read someone, but those people are wrong

[XScorpion]

and at the risk of a bare-knuckle brawl with majiffy, i'm still pretty sure obscurity is a scum slot

people think that you need a certain amount of "content" to read someone, but those people are wrong

Why are you sure?

[helium-3]

You aren't wrong. I never said I approved of GG's play, I just don't think he's scum. Maybe you aren't either, heck, I can think of several players (shos, Blueberry, pecan) who I think are more likely scum than you. I'm just not 100% convinced you're town.

I CAN'T LIVE WITH THAT

YOU MUST LOVE ME

I DEMAND ACCEPTANCE

[helium-3]

in all seriousness, fine

but if you try to make mollie's cursing into a scumtell, i

will

yell at you

[XScorpion]

I accept your terms.
But I really want to know how you are so sure obscurity is scum and not just a really useless town player with such little information to go on?

[helium-3]

and at the risk of a bare-knuckle brawl with majiffy, i'm still pretty sure obscurity is a scum slot

people think that you need a certain amount of "content" to read someone, but those people are wrong

Why are you sure?

sooooo much gut, and i can't believe no one else is admitting to it

/ugh... I'll try to explain it

ok, well I already kind of did. he never attempted to give opinions on the game as a whole, but opted to quote something random mollie said and give a smart-assey one liner about hydra hate.

and then once we all threw him in the hot seat about force-replacement he didn't act embarrassed or sorry about it at all (scum or town could do this). He went into eric cartman mode and told everyone to go fuck themselves. this makes sense from a scum perspective (we forced him out of what he perceived as his optimal strategy). doesn't make very much sense from a town perspective (unless he's really is as much of a jerk as eric cartman, in which case, I guess all of it's null; but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt that way )

[helium-3]

I accept your terms.
But I really want to know how you are so sure obscurity is scum and not just a really useless town player with such little information to go on?

but see, if he were a useless town player, then i would expect just blatant prod-dodges with promises for more content later; i wouldn't expect the random swipe at mollie and the specific commenting on sthar's "plan" (both of which, along with the promptness of his "fuck you" post, show that he's monitoring the thread).

I certainly wouldn't expect him to go into full blown rage mode when we asked for a replacement.

[XScorpion]

That makes sense, although like you say, he could just be 'as much of a jerk as eric cartman' which is a possibility considering no one else plays like he did ('actively' lurking, i.e. prod dodging only).

At the moment, you couldn't possibly convince me to vote out that slot right now without hearing from Majiffy. If he turns out to be paragon of scumhunting then I'm willing to believe Obscurity is just a really bad player. I would not be surprised at all if the slot is scum and I totally would have lynched him if he didn't replace out but I still think shos is scummy for immediately jumping on him before Majiffy came in. That said, I will be watching Majiffy very closely and the same 'lots of content or I will be happy to lynch you' ultimatum I gave Obscurity still applies here.

[helium-3]

hi majiffy!

[Grimgroove]

There isn't a need to flip out whenever someone suggests they think you are scum

...this seems familiar (grim groove at the beginning of this game?)...

...nah...

The fuck are you talking about? Literally shos is the only person I've accused of that, and only after Obscurity replaced out. I WAS TALKING ABOUT VOTING OBSCURITY MYSELF JUST A FEW PAGES AGO!

i guess i projected pasch and grim's attitude onto you. oh well.

Please stop this.

Talking about gut, it's stuff like the above that really sets mine off. My intestines are on to helium, they're not very happy that I'm ignoring them, but the heart (our past) and the brain (they're not an achievable lynch for today) tell me to.

I'm almost certainly dead tomorrow but do remember this: helium is extremely likely to be scum. I think the best way to find out is to interact with them directly, especially if you have experience with their heads. I think it's hard to miss.