Red Wine Mafia: Game Over

[Espeonage]

I'm going to assume that this is an intent to lynch me llama?

I'm a Voyeur, which I've never seen before, so I wanted to play alot 'better' this game, so I wouldn't be put under as much pressure as usual this game so I wouldn't have to claim it.

In what way? He hadn't posted much so I didn't see him as having done anything noteworthy. Which means I generally don't read them as I don't have much of a base to work from. Hence slipping under my radar.

[Espeonage]

I know it's only L-2, but Llama seems to have some sway.

And

Unvote, Vote: Katsuki

[mykonian]

votecount

espeonage (6): natirasha, tammy, projectmatt, fferyllt, Albert B. Rampage, cephrir
Albert B. Rampage (4): katsuki, pjovek, especiallythelies
pjovek (1): chamber
katsuki (1): espeonage
natirasha (1): Llamarble

Not voting (3): cabd, TSO, bbmolla

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is on the 30th

[Espeonage]

:/ Myko.

[Pjovek]

Look if I wanted to I could point you to just as many hypocrisies and illogical BS in ABR's iso as you're all dragging up from espeonage, but I don't really see how that'd be even necessary.

In the end the fact that he activity-dodges continously with pure survival votes (no scumreads to this day) should easily be enough to lynch him.

And the only "argument" against it I've ever seen is that "he wouldn't play this bad as scum" which is the stupidest thing I've read since chamber first started posting. The fact that nobody is able to conjure up a real townread is telling in itself.

So the most simple conclusion is that ABR is scum, Espeonage is town, and scum are trying to shift the lynch onto town last minute.
And honestly, in the unlikely scenario I'm wrong and they are both town, I'd have a lnyched ABR over a lynched espeonage any day any week.

tl;dr: just lynch ABR

[Albert B. Rampage]

In case we are both town, you lynch who you think is scum, Pjovek. Which means some other than us two.

BBMolla, I've been suspicious of the slot since mindgamer.

Unvote Espeonage, vote BBmolla

[fferyllt]

Unvote

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't think we should speculate on Espeonage's alignment for now. Let's just move on.

[Cabd]

So how about that tons of content you said you had on the way, ABR?

[Cephrir]

I know it's only L-2, but Llama seems to have some sway.

And

Unvote, Vote: Katsuki

...???

I don't think we should speculate on Espeonage's alignment for now. Let's just move on.

...???

[Cephrir]

Alright; Espeonage go ahead and claim.
Also explain your word choice here:

Why empire? As far as I can tell he hasn't really done anything particularly indicative either way. He's been slipping under my radar.

Espeonage gets lynched a LOT but he also flips scum a lot >_>
His push-game-along stuff is fakeable, so him flipping scum here is plausible.
I just got in and I need to go to sleep but tomorrow I'll go through again and he'll have claimed and we can decide whether to pivot to Cephrir-scum.

...???

[Pjovek]

In case we are both town, you lynch who you think is scum, Pjovek. Which means some other than us two.

BBMolla, I've been suspicious of the slot since mindgamer.

Unvote Espeonage, vote BBmolla

You are who I think is scum, which I believe to have made apparant sufficiently.

[Albert B. Rampage]

So how about that tons of content you said you had on the way, ABR?

You see, the thing is that I'm not attached to any read. I could honestly go many different ways, since I don't have strong gut reads.

I don't understand what's so town about Katsuki. I find him scummy.

Mindgamer/BBmolla, I've been flip flopping on, and they're not somebody I would carry to Day 2 with me if I had a choice.

I can tell you what I think of Espeonage if you want me to.

I honestly feel exactly like what chamber is posting he is feeling, especially about BBmolla, his commitment to this game, being actually forced to play even when we aren't interested, everything he says is an echo to what I'm thinking.

I like Tammy.

I tend to really hesitate to give Llamarble an early read as I've learned the hard way that he can have a really slow start as town.

This applies to me very much. Extremely slow start this game.

I disagree with most of what ETL says, but I can't really say that I have a scum read on her.

There's just too much uncertainty in the game for me to say, yep, that's the scum right there. I need to see some flips, and then I can analyze the votes and the bandwagons. Right now, nothing is jumping at the screen to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You are who I think is scum, which I believe to have made apparant sufficiently.

Because you think that I'm lying about not having strong reads, right?

But what if it was true? Doesn't that explain every single behavior you think is suspicious?

[Pjovek]

Do you believe yourself to be a decent player?

[Pjovek]

You are who I think is scum, which I believe to have made apparant sufficiently.

Because you think that I'm lying about not having strong reads, right?

But what if it was true?

Doesn't that explain every single behavior you think is suspicious?

As for that, no, absolutely not.

[T S O]

I went through page 47, was ready to make a post, then I saw this page and was just like what the actual fuck

though I do love ABR's vote I'm not sure it's going anywhere

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do you believe yourself to be a decent player?

Not in this game.

You are who I think is scum, which I believe to have made apparant sufficiently.

Because you think that I'm lying about not having strong reads, right?

But what if it was true?

Doesn't that explain every single behavior you think is suspicious?

As for that, no, absolutely not.

List off what behaviors you find suspicious, that cannot be explained by me not having strong reads or a lack commitment towards the game.

[Natirasha]

With the deadline coming up, im gonna make an effort to chain my little wifi access into this game.

Anyways,niice setup for your partnrr, marble. I don't believe the claim for a moment. Sadly, I doubt anyone will listen to me. Rather lynch Molla at the moment.

[Pjovek]

Do you believe yourself to be a decent player?

Not in this game.

You are who I think is scum, which I believe to have made apparant sufficiently.

Because you think that I'm lying about not having strong reads, right?

But what if it was true?

Doesn't that explain every single behavior you think is suspicious?

As for that, no, absolutely not.

List off what behaviors you find suspicious, that cannot be explained by me not having strong reads or a lack commitment towards the game.

1) You say you don't have reads and then the only justification for your latest vote was that you had actually scumread him all along!
1.5) Said "scumread" was never even remotely explained
2) So you already gotta be lying somewhere in there
3) "Lack of commitment" is a mild way to put it and it's not even the lying part so it counts joke's on you
4) You act condenscending f.e. when you think you're my only scumread (which was not true but I digress), but then you act like there's nothing at all wrong with you not having any scumreads at all, having done no looking-for-scum at all either.
5) You're not even looking for scum
6) You're blatantly dodging replacements while not playing the game

Honestly I could leave it at just 5), it's by and far the most telling.
Apparantly you are aware your play is a hot pile of garbage. So that leads my to ponder why you do it despite being aware of it.
The only real conclusion is that you are fine with not finding scum, which then in turn leaves only one conclusion about your alignment.
It's quite simple.

And since your only response ever is and was "No" (and that's it), I remain unconvinced of your innocence.

[Cabd]

Nati, you think llama-espi-??? team?

[Natirasha]

Ebwop: I mean I'd rather lynch Espeon, but of the others Molla seems best.

[Natirasha]

Nati, you think llama-espi-??? team?

Yeah that was a classic "setup your scum partner for slightly off the border claim".

[Pjovek]

I would agree that llamarble's change in opinion from his listpost just a day prior has not been sufficiently explained.

Not only in regards to espeonage but also about cephirir.

I do not, however believe this to be telling about espeonage one way or the other.

[Albert B. Rampage]

1) You say you don't have reads and then the only justification for your latest vote was that you had actually scumread him all along!

Very, very weak gut read.

1.5) Said "scumread" was never even remotely explained

Gut.

2) So you already gotta be lying somewhere in there

No.

3) "Lack of commitment" is a mild way to put it and it's not even the lying part so it counts joke's on you

No.

4) You act condenscending f.e. when you think you're my only scumread (which was not true but I digress), but then you act like there's nothing at all wrong with you not having any scumreads at all, having done no looking-for-scum at all either.

There's nothing scummy about me not having strong reads.

5) You're not even looking for scum

I'm not seeing any that are jumping at the screen.

6) You're blatantly dodging replacements while not playing the game

I don't want to cause trouble for the mod by asking for replacement