Mini 1522: AA - MFA (Game Over!)

[Sakura Hana]

you agreed with him

I agreed with the thing about Meta, this is because due to meta many people obvtown me easily. It's unrelated to you townreading me at all.

[Kazekirimaru]

Pie is getting more and more vitriolic as the game progresses. Anyone know if that's alignment indicative for them?

[pieguyn]

you agreed with him

I agreed with the thing about Meta, this is because due to meta many people obvtown me easily. It's unrelated to you townreading me at all.

I just said I wasn't townreading you 0.0

also, plz answer my question

first you say I still have paranoia from my first newbie game and now you say this? how do you expect people to read you at all then?

[pieguyn]

Pie is getting more and more vitriolic as the game progresses. Anyone know if that's alignment indicative for them?

this seems like fence-sitting. do you think it's alignment indicative?

[Kazekirimaru]

Pie is getting more and more vitriolic as the game progresses. Anyone know if that's alignment indicative for them?

this seems like fence-sitting. do you think it's alignment indicative?

Uhhh non sequitur much?

[Sakura Hana]

first you say I still have paranoia from my first newbie game and now you say this? how do you expect people to read you at all then?

Having paranoia means you're using Meta, if you want to read me, then read me based on my actions this game, not based on my actions on other games.

[pieguyn]

Uhhh non sequitur much?

I don't understand, can you explain plz

Having paranoia means you're using Meta, if you want to read me, then read me based on my actions this game, not based on my actions on other games.

ok why do you say this when I'm more than sure you've used meta to read me before? why the flip flop on meta plz?

[Sakura Hana]

Because what TNE said makes sense, people townread me too easily that it isn't fair and is one of the reasons why i stopped using AtE and being too emotional.

[Kazekirimaru]

Uhhh non sequitur much?

I don't understand, can you explain plz

I don't see how you got from point A to point B.

How inquiring about your increasing aggression is related to being fence-sitty.

[pieguyn]

How inquiring about your increasing aggression is related to being fence-sitty.

you pointed out my aggression without giving a stance on it. IMO there's a very real possibility you could be scum trying to look busy, without actually giving out their opinion on anything. and then that way you can also avoid possibly getting heat by giving out incorrect information.

Because what TNE said makes sense, people townread me too easily that it isn't fair and is one of the reasons why i stopped using AtE and being too emotional.

but you were referring to paranoia in that other statement, not what TNE said. how am I supposed to read you if when I point out possible scumtells on you you say I'm being paranoid and when I say that other things aren't scumtells you claim that's an invalid use of meta?

[Kazekirimaru]

you pointed out my aggression without giving a stance on it. IMO there's a very real possibility you could be scum trying to look busy, without actually giving out their opinion on anything. and then that way you can also avoid possibly getting heat by giving out incorrect information.

Or I'm too lazy/busy prepping food for tomorrow to look at your meta myself and thought an inquiry would be easier.

[Sakura Hana]

but you were referring to paranoia in that other statement, not what TNE said. how am I supposed to read you if when I point out possible scumtells on you you say I'm being paranoid and when I say that other things aren't scumtells you claim that's an invalid use of meta?

See you're understanding things wrong, so let's see if i can properly explain to you.

- Yes, you have paranoia of me, this is meta related otherwise you wouldn't have paranoia.
- Yes, I agree with TNE that meta gets in the way, specially in my case one day people are gonna obvtown me and i'll be scum. If I get lynched for being scummy then so be it, otherwise how am i gonna learn?
- No, My statement regarding meta isn't related to your paranoia, but now that you mention it, if you didnt have meta of me you wouldn't be paranoid so there's that.
- No, those aren't scumtells, but if you think they are you're free to pursue that. Heck here's something i've read... Town is more waffly than scum, so if anything that's a towntell not a scumtell, what you need to look at is whether the change of reads or stances have a reason that's genuine or fake.

Ergo, if you think i'm being scummy don't hold it because of meta, I do like that you're questioning me tho, it helps me figure out whether you're really figuring out my alignment or force me to create a "slip" to push into a mislynch.

[Cabd]

Teppen-Yaki time! Back tonight for stuff.

[Marquis]

v/la for 1-2 days, thanksgiving

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~Mod

[Brian Skies]

V/LA until Friday

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~Mod

[Kazekirimaru]

I hate holidays.

Guize we have scums to hunt plz

[Marquis]

do you hate my birthday

wow

[borkjerfkin]

ego post fuckers

[Kazekirimaru]

do you hate my birthday

wow

Don't ask questions you don't want to hear the answers to.

Also happy birthday again. <3

ego post fuckers

SCUM FOUND

[Mac]

kaze town. probably the only substantial read I've got from questions so far, and I haven't formally sorted him yet, so it might be wrong.

waffly.

Your question is almost as bad as his is. In fact maybe it's worse. Would you trust a yes/no answer to this, or would you want independent verification? Would you ask a question like this in the first place?

well yeah. i'd expect you to say "check for yourself and come back to me" not snarking straight from the off at slimer for asking a simple question. it's funny how he brought it up and the way you replied as such, reminds me of xenoblade.

2nd was @ pie

maybe it's just ace attorney but wow. i have some effort going on here

i know, it's awesome and oh so town.

Mac, if you aren't saying that people following you makes your post okay, then why was the only thing that you responded to the question of "Why did you just copy ffery's post?" was that other people did it as well? I haven't moved my vote off yet because you haven't actually answered that question yet. I would be fine if you just said something to the effect of 'I couldn't think of anything else to say'. The fact that all you have been doing is sidestepping just really seems off to me.

no it wasn't, can you stop misrepping me? my response was actually "why just single me out when other people did it too?" which is not saying it's okay because other people did it at all. not that i really care for this conversation any more: attempting to troll ffery is not alignment indicitave whatsoever. maybe try looking at the other 11 players too?

If you reread the sentence a couple times you can probably glean my meaning from it.

Rather, I'll save you the troubles: I was waffling between it being a townwagon or not.

but you thought KA was scum. what made you start waffling on him all of a sudden?

Gut reads v. Wagon analysis

Happens.

what sort of wagon analysis?

Pie is getting more and more vitriolic as the game progresses. Anyone know if that's alignment indicative for them?

this seems like fence-sitting. do you think it's alignment indicative?

how on earth is that fence-sitting? it's similar to you asking everyone's opinions on everyone else. are you fence-sitting?

happy birthday marquis!!! i wish i got to eat turkey

kaze looks good for town.

[geists]

Your question is almost as bad as his is. In fact maybe it's worse. Would you trust a yes/no answer to this, or would you want independent verification? Would you ask a question like this in the first place?

well yeah. i'd expect you to say "check for yourself and come back to me" not snarking straight from the off at slimer for asking a simple question. it's funny how he brought it up and the way you replied as such, reminds me of xenoblade.

It wasn't a simple question. It read as something close to the "have you stopped beating your wife" fallacy, which is why I took exception to it.

[Kalimar]

Prod dodge ~ content in a few hours.

[pieguyn]

- No, those aren't scumtells, but if you think they are you're free to pursue that. Heck here's something i've read... Town is more waffly than scum, so if anything that's a towntell not a scumtell, what you need to look at is whether the change of reads or stances have a reason that's genuine or fake.

says I need to look at reasons
points this out when I attempt to find out said reasons

Ergo, if you think i'm being scummy don't hold it because of meta, I do like that you're questioning me tho, it helps me figure out whether you're really figuring out my alignment or force me to create a "slip" to push into a mislynch.

ok here's a new one. look at that last part. do you notice any similarity to past games in that last sentence?

remember how in stack the deck I pointed out a contradiction you made and tried to get you lynched cause of it? and I was town there? this seems like a really unnatural thought to have considering I've done the same thing as town before. I'd think you would remember this.

the fact that you "forgot" about this, combined with above, makes me really dislike this line of questioning 0.0

waffly.

how is that waffly? I'm pointing out I'm not confident in said read since I haven't formally sorted him yet. a lot of the time my initial reads end up being wrong so I don't wanna put too much faith in them until I do a more formal sort. however, it's the best I've got atm so I'm going with it

as for the fence-sitting, see my above posts, but I like his answer

[pieguyn]

@ffery:

you haven't been as much of a presence in this game as I'm used to. what's going on? 0.0

[GuyInFreezer]

I b hatin' on turkeys