We were a unidirectional unrequited lover in Bork's touhou game. If our scum lover died, we died with him. If we died, the scum player continued to be alive and kicking.
We were a unidirectional unrequited lover in Bork's touhou game. If our scum lover died, we died with him. If we died, the scum player continued to be alive and kicking.
And Cabd is insinuating this is the case again...?
We were a unidirectional unrequited lover in Bork's touhou game. If our scum lover died, we died with him. If we died, the scum player continued to be alive and kicking.
And Cabd is insinuating this is the case again...?
can you answer my question plz. I am confused as hell right now as to whether I'm terribly wrong or if my points are valid. especially when he won't provide any argument against my points and instead handwaves all of them away, which incidentally is the same shit he accused Sakura of doing.
In post 313, pieguyn wrote:so do you think Kaze is scum? given you were questioning my alignment in this post, but all you say about him is that he needs to try harder to convince people.
I actually think you both are town, im checking whether im wrong on one of you two which is why i was wondering what he was looking for with his reaction test. But the things he mentioned if anything are only indicative of you being pie rather than being scum (inb4 But you said you wouldn't use meta!).
can you answer my question plz. I am confused as hell right now as to whether I'm terribly wrong or if my points are valid. especially when he won't provide any argument against my points and instead handwaves all of them away, which incidentally is the same shit he accused Sakura of doing.
I'll come back to this when I'm not channeling Nati.
Naked votes are the most common way of reaction testing, your reaction was aggresive and he got a scumread out of you for that, I do admit that if i didnt know you better I would've probably agreed with that.
Naked votes are the most common way of reaction testing, your reaction was aggresive and he got a scumread out of you for that, I do admit that if i didnt know you better I would've probably agreed with that.
In post 281, pieguyn wrote:since you seem to have declared this 1v1 over, here's my case:
1. BS's reads
2. when I call him on it, starts flailing and grasping at straws
3. makes it seem like he's answering my questions when he's not. "to answer your question" ... "nothing that answers any of your questions"
4. misreps the fuck out of me
5. accuses me of being scum via OMGUS without trying to determine whether it actually came from scum motivation
6. handwaves all my points. keep in mind he accused Sakura of doing the exact same thing. this also makes me think he's not trying to figure anything out - he seems entirely convinced I'm scum and isn't interested in confirming or denying said read
7. took 13 minutes just to make that last post? it seems likely I had him caught, he had no idea what to do, and had to ponder what to do for a while. and then he decided he's just digging his own grave by arguing with me further ~~
can we lynch this today plz
I can see what you said explaining 2, but not others @_@
to elaborate on 1 since it's not clear just from the quote, he said my lurker vote on TNE was bad, but when I had asked him about you before, he said nothing despite your Kalimar vote which had been there longer than my TNE vote.
In post 281, pieguyn wrote:7. took 13 minutes just to make that last post? it seems likely I had him caught, he had no idea what to do, and had to ponder what to do for a while. and then he decided he's just digging his own grave by arguing with me further ~~
The others aside, this one is total and utter not scummy bullshit~
Currently in COVID hell, population: Entire Household
Ah yeah i forgot about that post, i think we've discussed point no. 2 enough tho, 1 would need more explaining on your part. 3,4 need links/quotes for proof, 5 is the reaction test so yeah, 6 if he thinks you're scum, obv he doesnt want to create noise, at best null, 7 time is irrelevant if he isn't mashing F5 like a maniac.
1. gives his opinion on you here. originally I asked him what his opinion of our interactions was, but by pointing out your handwave, it shows his intent to give an overall opinion of you.
In post 246, Kazekirimaru wrote:That said, I'm starting to wonder if your spat isn't a TvT situation. Sakura's indigence seems genuine, but it doesn't excuse her epic handwave of TNE earlier.
accuses me for voting a lurker while arguing with you here
In post 269, Kazekirimaru wrote:By the way, pie, where is your vote? Still on TNE right? As it has been the whole time you've been arguing with Sakura? It makes me unsettled that the whole time you were pressing her you kept your vote on a slot that barely spoke.
your Kalimar vote
In post 146, Sakura Hana wrote:Probably, anyway i went through KA's ISO again and I think I may be making a mistake here due to his interactions with Mac, so im gonna follow the Nacho method for the time being and move my vote here instead.
Unvote
Vote: Kalimar
my TNE vote. this happened after your Kalimar vote
That you'd rather be on a random-wagon than a scum-wagon? What?
I said I was scumreading you and I never gave any actual read on KA. (for the record, KA was reading town for me the whole time) so using your own logic, I should be suspicious, since I'd rather be on KA who I never gave an actual read on, instead of you who I was actively scumreading. but you don't call me out for it?
also, why does Sakura's jump on KA make her scum, when you practically did the same thing? and if KA is suspicious, are Sakura and KA both scum?
this doesn't make any sense
even for you
T_T this whole thing seems like you're scum trying to look busy and not legitimately scumhunting
In post 64, Kazekirimaru wrote:It wasn't really serious. I thought the wording was indicative of that.
Though your reaction to it was very real! You seem a bit bothered, eh? :3
My initial reaction was your vote giving me the warm fuzzies.
Now that I have learned the truth, not so much.
You're eventually town-reading Kaze. What about his reply here didn't give you the 'warm fuzzies'?
In post 103, geists wrote:
Indeed. Your question has highlighted the on-the-sidelines nature of your participation in the game so far. So has your follow-up.
I had a similar opinion of his play in the much-abridged Normal Formal micro that
was ruined by a troll
ended quickly. However, he was Town at the end of the game, so this is likely a playstyle quirk.
Pretty sure you should start by saying "How TNE is scum" Statements
In post 53, KingdomAces wrote:I know ffery does the exact same thing at the start of every game because I stalk the title fairy thread, and she was recently nominated for a title solely because of that.
The vote on Mac was solely a pressure vote, note that I only said it was some degree of serious. I couldn't think of anything game related to say to Sakura, and I knew if I responded to ffery then I'd just get pointed to that post in the title fairy thread. That left only you and Cabd that I could physically think of something to say about. Of the two, I don't trust myself to read Cabd at all, and I was hoping you would say something alignment indicative in response even though I know my reasoning was terrible. Leaving my vote for now, because you haven't actually provided any sort of bit.
PEDIT: Need to leave now. Not pediting.
So you're pretty much saying.
That you'd rather be on a random-wagon than a scum-wagon? What?
3) But not sakura's Post #46 which looks like a "I'm voting X because of my own reasons. So you can't call me out on sheeping". Almost all the people I've seen do this flip scum, or just newb town. IDK why. I dunno why nobody has noticed. But they do. And she's not newb town no, is she?
3) You just added stuff to why I scumread you but can't really say because of new playstyle.
Good thing you pointed out the "I'm scumreading person but voting others".
@Cabd: I'm pretty sure my Mac scumread and sakura scumread are 2 different triangles, if that's what you're getting at
you do the math. conclusion: since your Kalimar vote didn't ping him, he was BS'ing reads in an attempt to look busy.
3. his post
In post 277, Kazekirimaru wrote:To answer your questions in 274, You are getting hardcore defensive. And the way you changed the subject to Sakura again really pings considering the timing. Screams of "I know what I did but LOOK AT THEM AREN'T THEY SCUMMY OMFG"
my questions
In post 276, pieguyn wrote:is that really all you have to say? wow I am disappoint
vote: Kaze
answer my questions plz. why is my TNE vote scummier than Sakura's Kalimar vote, when she's done more of the same shit that you said I was doing? IMO the fact that you just dodged all my questions implies that I'm onto something and you don't have any good answers. not only that but I was mostly looking for an explanation, so this seems like a really knee-jerk reaction. @_@
also, a you x TNE team would explain why you ignored all my points on TNE, since it appears you're doing the same thing
explain yourself plz
note how what he said didn't answer any of my questions, yet he claimed his statement was to answer my questions
4.
In post 277, Kazekirimaru wrote:Screams of "I know what I did but LOOK AT THEM AREN'T THEY SCUMMY OMFG"
I never said your Kalimar vote was scummy. however, he claims I said it was.
6. get you. but I disagree with the idea that said "noise" is undesirable. even if we make a shitton of posts, there's almost certainly bound to be smth valuable in there. thus, I don't see the town intent in cutting off the 1v1 like he did.
