Mini 1521: The Fall - Game Over

[Jake from State Farm]

not really.

[Slandaar]

Yup.

Changing read from town-null based on me posting a read list means you think the read list is alignment related.

You are already dead.

[Alduskkel]

Jake, can you talk to me instead of Slandaar for 5 seconds?

[Jake from State Farm]

@ ald

he is scum because he has flat out lied and has misrepped me over and over again. He has tried to say that my read on him changed from town to scum because he posted that list read. That's not true. My read went from town to null.

He also said in one of his posts that anti-town and scum are 2 different things, yet when I say the exact same thing he acts like it's not true.

[Jake from State Farm]

Yup.

Changing read from town-null based on me posting a read list means you think the read list is alignment related.

You are already dead.

no it just means that now I have doubts and I have to ignore my gut read and instead use your posts to help me decide.

Null means unsure of alignment. That 1 post was bad enough to make me doubt you, and despite you arguing that it's a nulltell, list reads are not null, not to me anyways.

[Alduskkel]

So what's Slandaar's scum motivation for all this? Is he trying to get you (mis)lynched?

[Alduskkel]

He also said in one of his posts that anti-town and scum are 2 different things, yet when I say the exact same thing he acts like it's not true.

Also when did this happen? I'll take a post number or quotes, either is fine.

[Slandaar]

and despite you arguing that it's a nulltell, list reads are not null, not to me anyways.

lol.

So, wait, it must be alignment related then?

[Slandaar]

I don't think Jake even knows what hes saying.

[Jake from State Farm]

well yes of course. Why else would he lie and say that I thought he was scum for posting the list read, when anyone who reads my post again can clearly see i was not calling him scum. he's voting me based off a lie/misrep.

The only other part of his case that I remember was something about my activity, I can't defend myself against that because my activity was down during the holidays and I have already admitted to that and explained why it was down. Anyone who knows me knows I don't lurk and I actually despise it, especially as a scum strategy.

[Jake from State Farm]

and despite you arguing that it's a nulltell, list reads are not null, not to me anyways.

lol.

So, wait, it must be alignment related then?

it's not that black and white. there is a ton of gray area which is why I was unsure if you were town anymore but wasn't sold on you being scum either.

[Alduskkel]

I feel like there's just a miscommunication between you two.

[Slandaar]

well yes of course. Why else would he lie and say that I thought he was scum for posting the list read, when anyone who reads my post again can clearly see i was not calling him scum. he's voting me based off a lie/misrep.

I really don't see how that matters even if true.

The point was always and is very clear in all my posting that Jake is using a null-tell even after pointed out is a null-tell as a scum-tell.

This can be evidenced here:

Damn my 1 townread just did the most anti-town thing ever.

Ok so accordion to you it's a null tell but I look at the act as anti-town and I can't town read someone doing something anti-town. So you will just be

null to slightly scummy

and I'll keep an eye on you. Mmkay?

Goodbye Jake.

He then argues for eternity about some nonsense when its provably a null tell.

I NEVER said him giving list reads was alignment related.

How is posting read lists related to my alignment Jake?

It's related because the act itself is scummy.

Ouch.

[Hopkirk]

Jake hates me already. I guess I’ll just give him another reason…yes I’m making a…LIST READ!

Hopkirk is town
Username is town
Yiley is town
Sadly jake is probably town
The-duck is town
Grey could be town
Slandaar is town
Bolt is inactive
Peregrine is inactive
Ald is scummy
Zeus is hm
Jklm is scum
Emo maybe scum
Zeus and ald may be a scumteam

VOTE: JKLM
This feels right

[Jake from State Farm]

But scummy doesn't mean scum.

[iamausername]

I NEVER said him giving list reads was alignment related.

I DID say that giving list reads was anti-town and because of that he isn't obvious town to me anymore.

jesus christ jake

if it changed him from being obvious town to being not obvious town then it must be alignment related

TOWN IS AN ALIGNMENT TOO YOU DOPE

[Yiley]

That means what? His opinion currently is that he thinks scum are in the people he out as scummy... Can you not understand that or something?

[Hopkirk]

Scummy is what i have in between neutral and scum when used as an alignment in a list like that.

[Jake from State Farm]

I NEVER said him giving list reads was alignment related.

I DID say that giving list reads was anti-town and because of that he isn't obvious town to me anymore.

jesus christ jake

if it changed him from being obvious town to being not obvious town then it must be alignment related

TOWN IS AN ALIGNMENT TOO YOU DOPE

Jesus Christ iamusername. If it was alignment related it would mean he's scum confirmed based off that 1 post.

1 post does not determine alignment. So I dropped my gut read and put him back into my unknown pile.

[Jake from State Farm]

Scummy is what i have in between neutral and scum when used as an alignment in a list like that.

Does scummy mean he's guaranteed to be scum?

[Hopkirk]

Do you think I'd have a separation between scum and scummy if they were both meaning exactly the same? (Although scum on the list isn't 100%)

" because of that he isn't obvious town to me anymore"
After he posted a list read you say he is neutral
The list read has changed your read on him from town-neutral which is towards scum which is weird if it's neutral-which would mean it shouldn't change your read.

[Jake from State Farm]

I don't get why it's weird but I also don't want to waste multiple pages on it. If dropping a town read back to null because that person
Did or said something scummy is weird, then I guess I'm weird

[Alduskkel]

More JKLM votes please.

Duck's vote is probably wrong.

OK Townies we all need to start working together. I suggest we do this by voting JKLM until he is dead. If there are any objections to this they need to be made very clear with the reasoning for said objection.

VOTE: slandaar

Guys this needs to die, pushes for easy lynch and I've literally done nothing this game.

Given that could warrant a goo policy lynch, I feel like I may as well make my vote a non random one.

Oh really? Well that might be convenient then. I reckon you're town^

Yeah I can't blame anyone for voting for me

, I've completely abused this games existence.

Bolded parts taken together are ridiculous.

[Jake from State Farm]

Those aren't good reasons to lynch someone. Did slandaar ever make a case for him? I don't recall seeing one.

[Alduskkel]

216 and 242 I think.