Mini 1521: The Fall - Game Over

[Alduskkel]

greygnarl is scum.
greygnarl is scum.
greygnarl is scum.
greygnarl is scum.
greygnarl is scum.

Vote with me for great justice.

[Hopkirk]

@Son of zeus “Hop/slandaar are scum” seems like a town read to you how?

I dislike emo's "don't let prs claim ever" attitude.

“I will never give reads until Atleast day 3. I don't like to make scums job easy.”: You’re not going to try and lynch scum for 3 days as that will “make it easier for them”. Scum.
Then the post contains contradictions, untrue things and tries to stop us lynching him and tries to justify his future lurking.
@JKLM: Why did you vote someone you didn’t thing was scum (ald). You can’t say if you thing someone’s scum and they flip town that you’re auto scum as …town doesn’t know scum.

Ald doesn't like explaining himself though.

[RadiantCowbells]

The Fall: Votecount #5


Alduskkel: 4 - Yiley, emogirl123, iamausername, greygnarl
thegreygnarl: 4 - The-Duck, SonOfZeus, Alduskkel, JKLM
JKLM: 2 - Hopkirk
Slandaar: 1 - JFSF
JFSF: 1 - Slandaar

Not Voting: BolteAltamont, PeregrineV,

With

13

alive it's

7

to lynch.

(expired on 2013-12-09 12:00:00)

Been absent a few days due to my router breaking.

Now searching for a replacement for BolteAltamont.

[The-Duck]

scum is refusing to bus alduskkel, and i don't know which one of them is. hopkirk refusing to bus alduskkel is the only thing he does that is scummy aside from all of his action. in saying hopkirk is scum, you are also saying alduskkel is scum.

Can you explain this? I really don't get it.
How do you know they are refusing to bus?
you don't know which one is what? (and who are the which ones referring too? I pressume his scumbuddies?)
And how does this connection between Hopkirk and Ald work?

Although there is something to be said for lynching Ald, I believe Grey to be the better lynch.
The biggest reasons for Ald being scum is him not taking stances on players (maintaining neutrality), right?
Personally I rather lynch someone who's actively being scum than someone who is not actively harming town.
At some point he has to commit to reads and opinions, and then we can determine his (ald's) alignment.
While we now have a player who bullshits his way through D1.
- he pushed me for absolute bullshit reasons
- he said he had been working on Yiley the whole game while only mentioning him as scum team with hopkirk (104) but later is surprised someone gathered from his posts that he was confident in his reads (which is not that much of an stretch; he said he was pretty sure)
-when he later makes a case on Yiley, Yiley is not scum but dead weight
-he now votes Ald, while not having addressed him before with an other purpose then questioning why people are suspicious of Ald (except for 1 comment, in which he asks ald for content)
This does not at all read like someone who is trying to find scum.

Emo and Iam, can you be persuaded in to voting Grey to day, we can always deal with Ald D2 if he doesn't start to ooze town all over the thread?

Jake and Slandaar, can you two also weigh in on the current lynch options?
your current votes aren't accomplishing anything.

[Alduskkel]

The-Duck, say greygnarl is lynched today.

1. He flips town. Who do you pursue as a lynch Day 2?
2. He flips scum. who do you pursue as a lynch Day 2?

I will reveal the purpose of these questions after they are answered.

[The-Duck]

If he flips town I'm going to have to reread the entire thread and re-evaluate all my reads. But if I have to name someone now, I guess you.
If he flips scum, I'll first do a celebration-dance as it would be the first Lynch I pushed as town that has gone trough, and then I'd have to take another look at Emo for Grey's defense of her. Although the defense can be either a chainsaw or an defense for town-cred from her. And I'll read the thread to see if I can find some other odd interactions.
Haven't really thought that much in advance yet, but I guess it also relies on the night kill, and the interactions of players with the then-confirmed town.

[Slandaar]

I will look at this later.

[Alduskkel]

@The-Duck: Yeah, that's what I was thinking you might say. I'm afraid that if you're scum and greygnarl and I are town then you've got 2 mislynches lined up nicely and you've set yourself up to be on both.

We'll see how it plays out. Maybe greygnarl flips scum and my speculation won't matter. But I would like other people to keep this in mind.

[The-Duck]

Well, that's kind of awful Ald.. if you are scum, you are now lining me up as 2nd mislynch, assuming grey gets lynched and flips town.
But hey, feel free to make a case on me, that'll be more productive then calling me possible scum in a very unlikely scenario

[Alduskkel]

Aren't you assuming I'll try to get you lynched if greygnarl flips town?

[The-Duck]

I assume I'll have some explaining to do if he flips town, yes.
If I may ask, how do you feel about the current wagon on Grey?

[Alduskkel]

You're okay, though obviously I'm a bit paranoid about you.

Son-of-Zeus seems genuine but I could use more content from him.

I'm Town.

JKLM I'm still suspicious of but greygnarl is a more suspicious.

So the wagon on greygnarl is pretty good except JKLM's presence is something of an enigma to me.

By contrast, my wagon has some rather questionable people on it. greygnarl first and foremost. Yiley might be scum but I don't have scum meta on him and he could easily be bad town (unfortunately). Still, I'd lean scum on him. emogirl I'm weary of because she seems like tunneling town BUT I have no idea how good she is as scum.

iamausername is the person on my wagon who is most probably town, though he's just sitting on his vote right now mostly. I could also use more content from him.

[greygnarl]

So the wagon on greygnarl is pretty good except JKLM's presence is something of an enigma to me.

Cuz bussing is impossible right?

[Alduskkel]

Well if it's bussing then I'm definitely cool with the wagon, since scum are helping us lynch scum!

[The-Duck]

Bussing seems highly unlikely, when JKLM moved to you, Ald had the bigger wagon, and Hopkirk was contemplating voting Ald as well,so Ald was more likely to get lynchend at that point.
But it's nice to know that you say JKLM is bussing you..

[Yiley]

Ald I don't have a scum meta as of yet I have never been scum.

[Jake from State Farm]

But it's nice to know that you say JKLM is bussing you..

you should work on your reading comprehension because that isn't what ald is saying at all...

[Jake from State Farm]

Jake and Slandaar, can you two also weigh in on the current lynch options?

I prefer slandaar over both of these 2 so I will keep my vote where it is. Though I wouldn't stop a gray wagon from happening

[The-Duck]

So you want Grey lynched without responsibility?

[Jake from State Farm]

no I want slandaar and hop lynched.

[Jake from State Farm]

I love how Ald assumes that I'm scum purely to argue his way of it being impossible for him to be scum since he hates bussing. Him doing something like that is indicative that he isn't scum. Why? I'm town. If he was REALLY scum, he would know that. The fact that his defense relies on me being scum would result in his lynch tomorrow if I were to be lynched. In other words, if he was scum, he would have never said that as scum so he doesn't screw himself over when I flip.

Yay for logic! Although everyone that thinks I'm scum won't beleive me but whatever.

meant to say this earlier but got busy, this post is full of fail that you should probably just quit while you are behind.

[Slandaar]

@JKLM: Why did you vote someone you didn’t thing was scum (ald).

I think this is greatly understated.

JKLM calls Ald town then in his next post votes him for no actual reason then hes back to 'Ald is town'

[Alduskkel]

I don't recall JKLM calling me town

before

voting for me.

[Jake from State Farm]

he didn't, more misrepping/lying by slandaar

[Jake from State Farm]

I can post the quotes that prove slandaar is lying or we can just save me the trouble and everyone pile on slandaar now.