I'm starting 10 pages back because I feel like it was about that far back that I lost the big picture. Bear with me please.
In post 855, Nachomamma8 wrote:pitoli
i voted you with no conviction
you voted me because i had no conviction
i say i have no conviction
you say why vote with no conviction
i say because i want a momentum change
Do you still feel we're going nowhere?
In post 884, Mac wrote:strong townread on nacho.
the interactions weren't good. she didn't come off great to me from voting for nacho instead of asking. i felt like she was trying to look like doing something but it didn't really work. "omgus can get you places" was terrible reasoning, too.
In post 891, Kazekirimaru wrote:I could lynch pitoli today.
I'd really rather not lynch Rufflig today.
I'm having trouble reading SSK, myself.
I'm not reading Nacho as town atm.
(My thoughts as of the last couple pages.)
Talk about your Rufflig read?
In post 961, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: In post 955, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ Myko
As somebody once said in a movie...." if we were in different circumstances we might of been friends. "Maybe one day we can play on a town team together . It just happened that you landed a scum slot
is this really goddamn forced or is it just me
It does seem forced, yes.
In post 969, mykonian wrote: In post 963, Deacon Blues wrote:@Myko Can you give some examples of him playing the newb card?
@Fuzzy, is English your first language?
Is played. Not him playing it. There have been a couple of instances of people saying he was a badly writing town. And that's a bad sentence but I don't know how to say it neater right now. Maybe tomorrow when I've slept.
He's not a newb. That's why I was wondering. His writing style comes of unnatural to me, but I saw that in town games as well as the scum game. I'm going to reread his scum game tonight to see if I think its becoming more of a match with this game.
In post 971, Kazekirimaru wrote:I just did a cursory metadive on Myko to see if I'm on the right track about this push. Checked out Micro 233, TM2102, and Newbie 1310 among others.
Myko posts quite often as town, usually being the most active/2nd. most active in the game, even in games where he replaces in halfway/has large gaps of inactivity. This is partially due to his tendency to post multiple times in a row as town. ScumMyko is significantly less active, preferring to quote-stripe rather than reply in multiple posts. TownMyko generally has a cheery disposition, often speaking pleasantries to people he's familiar with, happily fluffing on occasion. ScumMyko is much more serious and terse, getting down to business as soon as he hits the thread. TownMyko also appears to frequently use Smilies whereas ScumMyko almost never uses them. TownMyko also appears to reach out a bit for support on wagons/opinions on other players a bit more than ScumMyko does - ScumMyko rather takes a more "My reads are better than yours so follow me you derp" attitude. That's not to say he doesn't do this as both alignments, just far more as Scum than Town.
I'm by no means fantastic at Meta-reading, nor am I willing to base an entire read around Meta, but considering that Myko appears to be playing to his scum meta(along with the fact that Mara was scumming up the slot beforehand) I'm feeling incredibly confident about this push now.
So, yeah. Lynch him.
I'm finally getting to this meta, too. But your comments about his pleasantries could be player list dependent. My style of play in the Space game was more serious and reserved than I typically play, for instance, because I had never played a game with most of the player list.
In post 973, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Sadly my first language is English. Sometimes my brain goes faster than my hands so I don't always type the exact way I am thinking....My better posts is when i slow down and makes sure I am saying exactly what I am thinking.
I can see how some might mistake this for being a little scummy.
@ Orcinus
- I did not like how he came in and started to yell scum without reading everything. I also stated that what i saw from his town meta that this is not a town Myko as far as I could tell
- His reason for wanting me lynched were weak and a stretch.I would also say forced. For example he said I was scum bc I said sorry in one post. I have seen other players say sorry in their posts and no one yelled scum. It is clear by the context that I was trying to be polite. Even if it was not if you check my explanation with the post it pretty clear that the reason I give matches up with the stated post. The second reason given is that I asked questions instead of just blasting out accusation. He is basically basing me being scum based on a play style. I have been pretty consistent with the way I have played. I asked question and based on the answers I decided whether or not I should peruse a case against someone. I have tried to make cases against people I thought were scummy. He said my post are scummy but does not says how. What about my post that makes them scummy.
I admit I am awkward but this is normal for me. I even admitted this before. Maybe it is just me but it seems that he knows I am awkward and hopes to get an easy lynch by taking my words out of context or trying to portray my awkwardness as scummy
- My problem with Mara was that she was not only defensive and stand-offish but was excessively so.
Have you played with her before, that you can judge this was excessive?
- She admit lurking which is not scummy per-say but tried to frame her lurking as being okay but No Hana as scummy
Can you link to what you are talking about here?
- Her vote on Ornicus really seems like a OMGUS or perhaps a way to take attention away from herself.( I am talking pre meltdown)
I only see the one vote, and it looks like the "meltdown" followed shortly thereafter.
-I do not know what to make of her meltdown since I seen both scum and tell meltdown before. I am guessing it was a scum meltdown since I believe with my heart
What leads you to believe this? Is it based on other games with her?
Also if the cop wants to investigate me I am fine with that. I welcome it.
What makes you think the game set up includes a cop?
In post 979, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ Myko
why is it a weird explanation?Funny i give you a rope to possible crawl out of the hole that you dug and you want to hang me with it. As far as Kaze's meta dive you have not shown why we should believe this is not the norm for your scum game, If you want to show that he is wrong I know I would be open to listen. Post a scum game where you acted differently.
You shouldn't trust someone else's meta report, even if you think they are town, unless you know they are talking about experiential meta. Research the linked threads for yourself and see if you agree. Wanting to lynch someone on the basis of a meta report you haven't verified? Not good.
In post 986, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm rounding up my town block. My vote on pitoli was a reach out in and of itself. You also know that I don't obviously build town blocks I'm every game
What are your thoughts about pitoli post reach-out? Are you thinking she's town? You moved your vote, but you moved it off ruffling mostly on the basis of uncertainty, I think.
In post 989, Nachomamma8 wrote:I think I want to work with SSK town based on his reads list. He misses a lot yes, but I think scum partners would probably fill him in on Orc claim.
This is a good point.
In post 1002, Nachomamma8 wrote:I agree that I gave him too much credit for his early posting, which is something I discovered last night while looking for alternatives. I don't like that Sakura sheeped me after voting me; it felt like if she was concerned about Nachoscum, then she probably wouldn't have been so immediately reassured by me. She is not the type of player who dances with me or challenges me to dance with her, she usually just follows along with my initial pushes. If she's paranoid of me, she's usually clearly and obviously paranoid of me, not this strange middle ground where she's kind of paranoid of me but not really. So I feel like she's sorting me out because she thinks that's the type of thing I would townread from her, but not showing actual signs of sorting me out because she's not actually town.
Yeah. I liked the way she reacted to my vote a while back, but I don't like that she's not trying to figure me out. She's just called that vote unusual aggression. it's not, really. It was totally based on my asking them for their reads and getting an outdated list that contained no reasoning. At the time I didn't know that was Sakura. I thought GiF was being flippant.
In post 1009, pitoli wrote: In post 995, Nachomamma8 wrote:Pitoli town based on interactions and a level of ballsiness required to be coming from pitoli scum that I don't think she possesses.
Marangal meltdown makes myko town, don't really give a shit what he posts although moving away from the norm in a significant way is something that comes from myko town more often than myko scum.
Tammy deacon town.
MafiaSSK gets two points based on what I assume scumbuddies would have filled him in on. If scumteam is prohawk/gif though, maybe not. Otherwise would prefer not to kill him based on townreads elsewhere (head can be cut off today).
Ruffling trust of me is weird and I am suspicious as all hell, but not sure he is best flip for today. Look into again later.
Prohawk still scummy. Conviction in response to me was good, follow up responses were not. Current line on ruffling is concerning if ruffling town.
Mac town.
Fuzzy most likely town, although I have paranoid flashes now and then.
Kaze also most likely town although I have similar paranoid flashes on him.
Minami good bet for scum.
Does scum-Nacho typically provide so many town reads?
If anything, scum-Nacho's reads lists are more detailed. But, so are town-Nacho's reads list when he has access to a computer.
In post 1017, mykonian wrote: In post 1014, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Really...... bc unless I am a Godfather there is no reason I would want to be investigated. I am doubting there is a Godfather role in a mini game.Plus this is nonsense bc I have seen plenty of time where townies ask to be investigated. I would be surprised if you have not seen that also. I am really confused by your logic.
I've seen it a couple of times. Last time was pitoli. And I've seen it work a couple of times. I think it works more often then the average amount of scum in a game.
in pitoli's case she responded to a joke, and I failed to understand that properly, it didnt make sense to me at that moment. Your mention of it is completely out of the blue. Pitoli had 2 reasons to be town and think about cops (one person was joking about it towards her, and she was a cop variant herself). I don't see that counting for you here.
And you aren't confused.
AH HA! So we have played before.
I'm going to go with mod meta here and say that there's a good chance that the game design may include day chat without it being tied to an encryptor. Cabd loves day chat as scum. This could be a site meta thing, but especially in theme games I don't assume that scum are restricted to night chat only.
Would you agree with what I said just above re Cabd and scum chat?
In post 1070, Minami no Hana wrote:ffery/bork seem way to aggresive for what I remember of ffery or bork (tho the one game i played with bork was a long time ago)
Are you talking about something besides my voting you here? The games we've played where I was scum, I was way less aggressive than I typically am is town. This characterization feels wrong. I'm not sure if it's town-wrong. :/
In post 1083, ProHawk wrote:
Actually, it does only take one instance to prove a school of absolute thought wrong. Something can't be true when its not...
But its beside the point, saying that Rufflig is a weak lynch because I/we/he don't have game experience together is not true in the least. I could fight against the majority and push for your lynch, but I actually think he has a greater chance of flipping scum than you do at this point, and it wouldn't get me anywhere to tunnel on you all day long when I don't see many others wanting to lynch you at this point.
Are you leaning town on GifSakura?